carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I thought I bought a good quality shower heater for the rental place, but seems not. No one's been here for months due to noisy chickens and this virus thingy, (except agents leaving fans and lights on and doors open :(). So front LED's don't light and water cold. I checked the incoming power to the unit and OK. Are there usual electronic problems with this unit, like heater element etc, that I could replace as I don't really want to buy another one at around B 7000. I will check the water flow before I do anything drastic like spend more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Has it ever worked? Ask because worker hooked up a heater for use backwards and all appeared well except did not heat. Make sure shower hose and water inlet are on the right connections. You already know if very low water pressure likely will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Don't be offended, but have you tried the reset trip button on the shower heater, more than once i have been called out by my tenants.....shower heater not working, only to find it just needs resetting. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, carlyai said: I don't really want to buy another one at around B 7000. Seem to be around 2,000bht on Lazada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, lopburi3 said: Has it ever worked? Ask because worker hooked up a heater for use backwards and all appeared well except did not heat. Make sure shower hose and water inlet are on the right connections. You already know if very low water pressure likely will not work. No it was working ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: Don't be offended, but have you tried the reset trip button on the shower heater, more than once i have been called out by my tenants.....shower heater not working, only to find it just needs resetting. regards worgeordie Checked that thanks. Can I borrow your tenants? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Seem to be around 2,000bht on Lazada. I thought I did check for the Mazuma Miracle 4.5 me Shower heater. Will check again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, lopburi3 said: Has it ever worked? Ask because worker hooked up a heater for use backwards and all appeared well except did not heat. Make sure shower hose and water inlet are on the right connections. You already know if very low water pressure likely will not work. I am a layman so please excuse any stupid questions. We have had a new shower heater installed but we cannot get hot water. The indicator light on the front works but no hot water. We did have hot water when it was first installed but not since the first couple of showers. To me that suggests the wiring is OK and it is a faulty part? ...... but then again, I am a layman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, carlyai said: I thought I did check for the Mazuma Miracle 4.5 me Shower heater. Will check again. Checked again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I am a layman so please excuse any stupid questions. We have had a new shower heater installed but we cannot get hot water. The indicator light on the front works but no hot water. We did have hot water when it was first installed but not since the first couple of showers. To me that suggests the wiring is OK and it is a faulty part? ...... but then again, I am a layman. Has the water pressure decreased? If it gets too low water will flow but heater will not work. There is normally a filter on the input to heater side that can be cleaned (also often an adjustment to reduce water flow). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Does any lights come on ? If you press the 'safety test' button - does the safety trip (if yes, it has power) Water pressure may be to low - Does it feed from the main water supply / or via a pump ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, carlyai said: Checked again. It is 4,790 on Lazada at this link https://www.lazada.co.th/products/mazuma-sp1-c45-lpm-miracle-gold-45-i1367998-s1583193.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.1.5468440aU9Byvk&search=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Why not buy a known brand like Sharp etc, at least these have a 12 month warranty, and do work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: It is 4,790 on Lazada at this link https://www.lazada.co.th/products/mazuma-sp1-c45-lpm-miracle-gold-45-i1367998-s1583193.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.1.5468440aU9Byvk&search=1 Thanks. That's a fair bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 We have a couple of this brand in my wife’s motel plus a gas one at home If you contact the office in Bangkok they will give you the name of your local agent where you can take it to be checked/ repaired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Grumpy one said: Why not buy a known brand like Sharp etc, at least these have a 12 month warranty, and do work Not sure if still the case but the case was an issue with Sharp in the past - r u s t. Most use plastic to avoid that problem. Personally prefer the Panasonic line as they are cheap and work great (but the ones I use are only 3,500 watts) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, carlyai said: Thanks. That's a fair bit of difference. Not seeing any at 2,000 Baht here:- https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?spm=a2o4m.10453683.search.8.3abf51bdyfHuRS&q=shower heater&_keyori=ss&clickTrackInfo=textId--4265559799261426625__abId--154857__pvid--460bfbbb-984c-4329-b62a-14c2dd5b5610&from=suggest_normal&sugg=shower heater_7_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, StevieAus said: We have a couple of this brand in my wife’s motel plus a gas one at home If you contact the office in Bangkok they will give you the name of your local agent where you can take it to be checked/ repaired Thanks will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I am a layman so please excuse any stupid questions. We have had a new shower heater installed but we cannot get hot water. The indicator light on the front works but no hot water. We did have hot water when it was first installed but not since the first couple of showers. To me that suggests the wiring is OK and it is a faulty part? ...... but then again, I am a layman. Forgot to say..... the brand is Stiebel Eltron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: Forgot to say..... the brand is Stiebel Eltron Over the last 30 years here have had the misfortune to come into contact with that brand at a few hotels and hospitals and they were always a bear to get working right as required more water flow or a mix of hot and cold water and there is no such thing as cold water in most of Thailand. Not sure if better now but have avoided ever buying any - have stuck with Japanese and clone brands. Sorry no home handyman experience with that brand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, carlyai said: I thought I did check for the Mazuma Miracle 4.5 me Shower heater. Will check again. 1.640bht, same insides, without the tacky gold front. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/mazuma-4500-crystal-plus-45-heater-grilon-200-i100869692-s100969936.html Edited July 14, 2020 by BritManToo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 We have a Philips Whirlpool used everyday, still good after 27 Years, and non of the others have lasted anywhere near it Doubt i can ever replace it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophon Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Shortly after installing our water heater (Mex) it stopped working. We took it back to Home Pro where we bought it, and the Mex representative reset the internal thermostat (10 second job). It is still working now almost eight years later. Maybe your problem is similar? From Mazuma Miracle manual: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, pineapple01 said: We have a Philips Whirlpool used everyday, still good after 27 Years, and non of the others have lasted anywhere near it Doubt i can ever replace it. Have had Whirlpool (not under Philips name) and indeed they were the defacto standard when change made from gas to electric point of use heaters here. But replaced when had failure of ELCB to operate due to manual lever inside unit becoming dirty - in later version they fixed that issue but in some the reset lever could prevent breaker from tripping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsouthdevide Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: Don't be offended, but have you tried the reset trip button on the shower heater I second what worgeordie said. On our shower, it's inside the cover. If it trips, I have to remove the cover, and press a little button down until it clicks. Its in between 2 connections on the top of a small copper tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, lopburi3 said: Have had Whirlpool (not under Philips name) and indeed they were the defacto standard when change made from gas to electric point of use heaters here. But replaced when had failure of ELCB to operate due to manual lever inside unit becoming dirty - in later version they fixed that issue but in some the reset lever could prevent breaker from tripping. 1 hour ago, lopburi3 said: Have had Whirlpool (not under Philips name) and indeed they were the defacto standard when change made from gas to electric point of use heaters here. But replaced when had failure of ELCB to operate due to manual lever inside unit becoming dirty - in later version they fixed that issue but in some the reset lever could prevent breaker from tripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Been a long time, but it was very expensive back then, same with the Imported Carrier Air Con, usual must be Mad remarks from the nits we all know.???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 18 hours ago, BritManToo said: 1.640bht, same insides, without the tacky gold front. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/mazuma-4500-crystal-plus-45-heater-grilon-200-i100869692-s100969936.html That's tempting. I got in touch with Mazuma Bangkok and they wouldn't give me the number for the Pattaya agent but rang for me and the line was busy. So I tested the flow as best I could then took it off the wall to take to the Mazuma shop. The Mazuma guy rang late yesterday and they don't want it, but to put it back on the wall and someone would come out Thursday to have a look. Service charge B500 - 600. Toss-up, buy a new one or pay B600 for someone to tell me I need a new one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Im not sure id feel safe standing under 4.5Kw for 1600 bht, how much do they buy them in for 800ish. Mrs P buys those blender juicy things from Lazada, as one does after a few years here you do nutty things, i have a shelf in the Garage where i collect all the broken ones. Below them are the cheap pressure washers, weed whackers etc, anyway have a Shockingly Good Day Lazada Fans.???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, pineapple01 said: Below them are the cheap pressure washers, weed whackers etc, anyway have a Shockingly Good Day Lazada Fans.???? You can buy the same items from Lazada as you get for high end shops if you want to pay brand name (and it will likely be less than shops). For any heater you make sure there is a built in RCCB and that it is installed with a ground and wired to a source also protected by RCCB. It sure is safer than the gas heater alternative that used to kill many here during the cool season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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