6 hours ago, rabas said:

Oops!

 

Just revealed that the Steele dossier was neither written by Steele nor from Russian sources, just an American writer who liked writing about Russia. LOL.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/us/politics/igor-danchenko-steele-dossier.html

I could not get past the NY Times paywall, but an internet search on Igor Danchenko identified him as a source for Steele who was interviewed by the FBI with the promise of anonymity.  That promise was effectively broken when AG Barr the declassified the report on the interview.

 

Nowhere did anything say I find anything suggesting the Steele report was written by anyone but Steele.

14 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I could not get past the NY Times paywall, but an internet search on Igor Danchenko identified him as a source for Steele who was interviewed by the FBI with the promise of anonymity.  That promise was effectively broken when AG Barr the declassified the report on the interview.

 

Nowhere did anything say I find anything suggesting the Steele report was written by anyone but Steele.

The striking theme in the FBI’s interview notes is that Mr. Danchenko relied on a group of like-minded friends, some drinking buddies, for stunning allegations against Mr. Trump and his associates — all of which eventually proved untrue. There are no firsthand Russian sources.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/26/igor-danchenko-outed-steele-dossier-source/

 

1 hour ago, candide said:

No. Only according to Trump.  Mind you, some people still believe him! Lol!

Note the date: January 31.

"The Trump Administration’s expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law. The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy,” Pelosi said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/480991-pelosi-trumps-expanded-travel-ban-is-outrageous-un-american-and-threatens-rule

 

I sat here in the USA watching the news myself. CNN, MSNBC all the usual suspects called him racist at that time they were outraged. I saw it myself so put a plug in it.

49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A vote for Biden is a vote for his VP to be president sometime in the next 4 years, IMO.

 

The cabinet is the worrisome part.

8 minutes ago, rabas said:

The striking theme in the FBI’s interview notes is that Mr. Danchenko relied on a group of like-minded friends, some drinking buddies, for stunning allegations against Mr. Trump and his associates — all of which eventually proved untrue. There are no firsthand Russian sources.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/26/igor-danchenko-outed-steele-dossier-source/

 

So you were incorrect in stating that Steele did not write the report.

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

So you were incorrect in stating that Steele did not write the report.

In what way?

Dictator Trump_, martial law coming soon.

10 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I sat here in the USA watching the news myself. CNN, MSNBC all the usual suspects called him racist at that time they were outraged. I saw it myself so put a plug in it.

So you must clearly remember who called Trump a racist and mentioned the CHINA travel ban. Who? When?

3 minutes ago, candide said:

So you must clearly remember who called Trump a racist and mentioned the CHINA travel ban. Who? When?

 

I don't need to play these games. You think I am a liar that's fine. Many others know exactly I am saying. You think nobody called Trump a racist? you must be delusional.

 

Who didn't call him one would be a better and easier question.

Edited July 30, 20205 yr by Cryingdick

6 minutes ago, rabas said:

In what way?

Because you have provided no evidence to support your claim that Steele did not write the report.

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Because you have provided no evidence to support your claim that Steele did not write the report.

Lots of word games in the thread this morning. Sorry, no time to discuss 'wrote' versus 'wrote'.

9 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Of course they are... Trump is very good at deflecting attention, and the media take the bait without second thought (and no first thought either). 

 

It has more to do with not having the brightest citizens in the world.

21 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I don't need to play these games. You think I am a liar that's fine. Many others know exactly I am saying. You think nobody called Trump a racist? you must be delusional.

 

Who didn't call him one would be a better and easier question.

He's been called a racist several times. Nobody denies it. Your claim is that he was called a racist because of the CHINA travel ban. That's a lie from Trump which you knowingly diffuse.

Edited July 30, 20205 yr by candide

34 minutes ago, rabas said:

Lots of word games in the thread this morning. Sorry, no time to discuss 'wrote' versus 'wrote'.

I'm pointing out the obvious; you posted:

 

"Just revealed that the Steele dossier was neither written by Steele nor from Russian sources, just an American writer who liked writing about Russia."

 

You have provided nothing to support your claim.

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

To prevent the other side from cheating (which you have no evidence will be a problem)

Trump has already been proven correct. There is cheating. Here's is one to get you started.

 

 "A former Democratic Congressman from Philadelphia, who served a prison term after being caught in a famous 1970s FBI sting, has been indicted for multiple election offences committed over the last six years, federal prosecutors said on Thursday.

The Justice Department said former Congressman Michael "Ozzie" Myers was charged with conspiring to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing ballot boxes in support of specific candidates in primary elections in 2014, 2015 and 2016."

https://news.yahoo.com/ex-philadelphia-congressman-ozzie-myers-172306119.html

8 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

Are posts from the Guardian really allowed on this board?

Why not? Feeling a bit uncomfortable outside of your echo chamber? 

30 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

<SNIP>Shame on the democrats for causing this latest hurdle to democracy.<SNIP>

 

 

Please clarify - what 'hurdle' have the democrats created contrary to the Constitution?

Edited July 31, 20205 yr by simple1

13 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Trump has already been proven correct. There is cheating. Here's is one to get you started.

 

 "A former Democratic Congressman from Philadelphia, who served a prison term after being caught in a famous 1970s FBI sting, has been indicted for multiple election offences committed over the last six years, federal prosecutors said on Thursday.

The Justice Department said former Congressman Michael "Ozzie" Myers was charged with conspiring to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing ballot boxes in support of specific candidates in primary elections in 2014, 2015 and 2016."

https://news.yahoo.com/ex-philadelphia-congressman-ozzie-myers-172306119.html

A state politician who cheated in local primary elections.  Is that all you've got?

 

There are occasional examples of people attempting to cheat in small local elections.  However this topic is about the Presidential election.  Do you have evidence of cheating on a scale that can influence a national election?  Cheating so vast it justifies ending democracy in the US, which you and Trump seem to be advocating.

Edited July 31, 20205 yr by heybruce

2 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Totally agree. When will Biden pick his running mate?

Next week.

 

8 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Please clarify - what 'hurdle' have the democrats created contrary to the Constitution?

1st, their not accepting fair defeat in the 2016 election was divisive in the extreme - and against the constitution, 2nd their attempting to mess with the 2020 elections by trying to do away with voter ID being required to vote is not strengthening American democracy. As usual, the vast silent majority can see through their silly games. 

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

A state politician who cheated in local primary elections.  Is that all you've got?

It is one example. You stated (wrongly) I had no evidence of democrats cheating. I gave you an example to prove your fallacious stance. 

12 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

1st, their not accepting fair defeat in the 2016 election was divisive in the extreme - and against the constitution, 2nd their attempting to mess with the 2020 elections by trying to do away with voter ID being required to vote is not strengthening American democracy. As usual, the vast silent majority can see through their silly games. 

 

Never read a Democrat politician not accepting defeat at the 2016 elections, I have read many times trump accusing electoral hoax's in the 2016 elections, even though he won, without any proof whatsoever. 

 

The trump admin is using the unproven claims of the impact of voter ID for the purpose of voter disenfranchisement.

 

Research shows that voter fraud is uncommon in American elections. An investigation conducted by Loyola Law School, Los Angeles professor Justin Levitt found 31 credible incidents of voter fraud in over 1 billion ballots cast during general, primary, special, and municipal elections from 2000 through 2014.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/21/facebook-posts/no-only-reason-oppose-voter-id-laws-isnt-because-y/

Edited July 31, 20205 yr by simple1

How is that committee going, the voter fraud committee that Trump started to come up with proof of the alleged voter fraud at the 2016 election?

Edited July 31, 20205 yr by stevenl

Trump might has well Tweeted, ‘I’m going to lose the election’, because that’s what his Tweet is about.

 

He has no evidence of voting fraud, he has no power to move the election, he’s facing defeat and he know’s there is at least one Grand Jury examining criminal charges against him.

 

He know’s what’s coming his way.

 

Brace yourself for more lunacy from the cornered narcissist in the White House.

Troll level Infinite 555

 

Of course the Master Troll made that statement to put the lefties on notice that their mail-in voting scam isn't going to work 

 

MAGA 

Just now, Boon Mee said:

Troll level Infinite 555

 

Of course the Master Troll made that statement to put the lefties on notice that their mail-in voting scam isn't going to work 

 

MAGA 

Your psycho crook in the Whitehouse days are numbered 

22 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Never read a Democrat politician not accepting defeat at the 2016 elections, I have read many times trump accusing electoral hoax's in the 2016 elections, even though he won, without any proof whatsoever. 

Yes.

But DT has said often "they" are trying to void the 2016 election.  He sounds like a criminal who's afraid of any cop because he knows what he did.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Troll level Infinite 555

 

Of course the Master Troll made that statement to put the lefties on notice that their mail-in voting scam isn't going to work 

 

MAGA 

I guess that’s why Mitch McConnell was so swift at slapping down Trump’s angst ridden lunatic suggestion.

His only hope is a vaccine. 

5 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Your psycho crook in the Whitehouse days are numbered 

The President of the United States is neither a psycho or a crook, but thank you for you insight and thoughtful commentary.