Popular Post Mises Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 I am from the UK. Does anyone anywhere know anyone who actually died of COVID? Of not with. One guy at my work knows someone that died but they were at death’s door anyway and that is the total extent of my experience. My daughter was working as flight crew abroad but gave up and returned to Thailand, she has 3 more days of quarantine in a hotel, she is not allowed out of the room at all and all food is delivered to outside the door. 14 days of that would send anyone crazy even without their carreer being destroyed. Yesterday a man doing the same in her hotel threw himself off the balcony. So I now know of more suicides than COVID caused deaths. I suspect I am not alone. And that is before all the extra cancer and heart disease deaths that are now a certainty in the UK 9 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Guderian said: When the annual flu season is just kicking-off in the countries that provide most of Thailand's tourists, it's probably not the best time to start opening the borders. The shops, hotels and bars might get a decent month or so of business, but as the virus starts spreading out of control the authorities will have no choice but to impose a lockdown again. The lockdown will seriously hurt most businesses, not just those in the tourism sector. So what do you do, give the tourism industry a brief respite at possibly enormous and unnecessary cost to the non-foreign tourist sector, which makes up 85% of Thailand's GDP remember? That doesn't make any sense to me, why would you risk inflicting great damage on the largest part of your economy just to try and boost a relatively small part of it? Sound like Spain. Desperation for the tourist dollars. Now they are heading into Autumn and Winter with a large spike in cases they probably wont be able to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellforce Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Swimfan said: There is usually a lag of about 4 weeks after infection rates spike for the death rate to start to increase No that's only 14 days, look at the graph above about France: - peak of the "daily new cases" = 31 th march - peak of "daily new deaths" = 15 th april That's also why the quarantines lasts 14 days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mises said: I am from the UK. Does anyone anywhere know anyone who actually died of COVID? Of not with. One guy at my work knows someone that died but they were at death’s door anyway and that is the total extent of my experience. My daughter was working as flight crew abroad but gave up and returned to Thailand, she has 3 more days of quarantine in a hotel, she is not allowed out of the room at all and all food is delivered to outside the door. 14 days of that would send anyone crazy even without their carreer being destroyed. Yesterday a man doing the same in her hotel threw himself off the balcony. So I now know of more suicides than COVID caused deaths. I suspect I am not alone. And that is before all the extra cancer and heart disease deaths that are now a certainty in the UK Do you know anyone, who died of starvation? No? Neither do I! Still millions are dying of starvation, every year! Not seeing something personally and then not believing it is not the most intelligent way to go about things! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturesway Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 This is the problem with the so called doctors where ppl trust them like they were god while they only memorized more words from the textbook in the school which are already written down in the book and available to read to anyone, and throw op those textbook words again front of the exam judges makes u entitled to be a doctor who will heal the population. This is one of the basic problem with the world 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndresSP Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mises said: I am from the UK. Does anyone anywhere know anyone who actually died of COVID? Of not with. One guy at my work knows someone that died but they were at death’s door anyway and that is the total extent of my experience. My daughter was working as flight crew abroad but gave up and returned to Thailand, she has 3 more days of quarantine in a hotel, she is not allowed out of the room at all and all food is delivered to outside the door. 14 days of that would send anyone crazy even without their carreer being destroyed. Yesterday a man doing the same in her hotel threw himself off the balcony. So I now know of more suicides than COVID caused deaths. I suspect I am not alone. And that is before all the extra cancer and heart disease deaths that are now a certainty in the UK I know of one person now fighting severe pneumonia with the actual virus long gone. He is well over 70 with an underlying condition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steelepulse Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Swimfan said: There is usually a lag of about 4 weeks after infection rates spike for the death rate to start to increase. in case you haven't noticed after all this time.its not like people just drop like flies after infection, but usually after a sustained attempt to keep people alive in hospital. You are aware that the big increase is cases is due to the huge increase in testing correct? Most of the people that are shown as positive have no symptoms whatsover. You are aware of this correct...... in case you haven't noticed. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTown Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Oldie said: Time to look for N95 masks again as long as they are available. The virus is a 100 times smaller than an average bacteria. The N95 mask looks like deep space to it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mises said: I am from the UK. Does anyone anywhere know anyone who actually died of COVID? Of not with. One guy at my work knows someone that died but they were at death’s door anyway and that is the total extent of my experience. My daughter was working as flight crew abroad but gave up and returned to Thailand, she has 3 more days of quarantine in a hotel, she is not allowed out of the room at all and all food is delivered to outside the door. 14 days of that would send anyone crazy even without their carreer being destroyed. Yesterday a man doing the same in her hotel threw himself off the balcony. So I now know of more suicides than COVID caused deaths. I suspect I am not alone. And that is before all the extra cancer and heart disease deaths that are now a certainty in the UK The same for me with the exception that no one I know has died or even been Knowingly infected. Mind you when you look at the amount of human beings in the world and the number of confirmed COVID-19 infections the odds appear slim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Paiman said: To be honest, I am getting sick of the scaremongering. They have to learn to live with it, so many are asymptomatic and the fallout for the healthy people is in my opinion outweighing the virus. Now I most likely get a few unhappy people with the following statement, but if some people die, so be it. Are you volunteering to be a coronavirus martyr for the Thai economy? After all, if you die, so be it!!! 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldie Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, CapeTown said: The virus is a 100 times smaller than an average bacteria. The N95 mask looks like deep space to it. I know - the most helpful would be to stop breathing completely. But the N95 masks are still more helpful than most other masks that you can buy here. And the virus often travels in small droplets and these the mask will block. Edited August 28, 2020 by Oldie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, steelepulse said: You are aware that the big increase is cases is due to the huge increase in testing correct? Most of the people that are shown as positive have no symptoms whatsover. You are aware of this correct...... in case you haven't noticed. And what drives the increase in testing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Nice Boyd said: AGreed , Do what Bali is doing What are they doing besides shutting down completely as of now. Do you have any new info. Latest as of yesterday was closed until 2021 https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/bali-closed-coronavirus-foreign-tourists-2021-indonesia-september-a9687021.html?ocid=uxbndlbing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: Opening up Thailand to tourists a "potential catastrophe" Should read "NOT opening Thailand to tourists a "potential catastrophe" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 So says another rich doctor who will never need to worry about being out of a job and unemployed and losing his business, his life savings, and everything he's worked for during his lifetime. "Shut everything down until next year prime minister. People like you and I aren't going to be effected. Let the commoners eat rice and bugs. We don't need no stinkin' foreign tourists." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Swimfan said: There is usually a lag of about 4 weeks after infection rates spike for the death rate to start to increase. in case you haven't noticed after all this time.its not like people just drop like flies after infection, but usually after a sustained attempt to keep people alive in hospital. But, the ICUs aren't full either. Most seems to be mild infections. And of course the testing is now on a completely other scale than it was in March. It's not the same as it was. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Swimfan said: And what drives the increase in testing ? Availability of testing equipment and reagents. Supply and capacity has been greatly increased (not so in Thailand, still at ~5k/d AFAIK). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mises Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, Saint Nick said: Do you know anyone, who died of starvation? No? Neither do I! Still millions are dying of starvation, every year! Not seeing something personally and then not believing it is not the most intelligent way to go about things! Has anyone starved to death in the developed world (or Thailand?) lately? So, no, I don't know anyone who starved to death. I fail to see the relevance of this. And you doubt my intelligence. And before some other smartrs gives examples of people who died of Anorexia, yes I did know a wife of a friend of mine who died basically of voluntary starvation. Following which my frind drank himself to death. Very very sad but again irrelevent. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agood1963 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: Dr Thira Woratanarat, head of Chulalongkorn University hospital's medical faculty, said that the country should wait six months to avoid a potential catastrophe. The economic death of the land of smiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Availability of testing equipment and reagents. Supply and capacity has been greatly increased (not so in Thailand, still at ~5k/d AFAIK). So when they get more equipment and reagents etc more people come out to get tested ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 it is best not to rush the opening up of the country to tourists; it should be done in calibrated stages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 'potential disaster' is underplaying it imo, I believe it would be a 'guaranteed disaster'. Good on the Thai professionals, they certainly are intellectually outperforming their western counterparts.. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSea Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: It need be acknowledged that there is an inevitable lag time for recorded fatalities from an increase in infection rates. No doubt there will those who will insist that these two graphs "prove" the risk level has been exaggerated as opposed to the reality only time will tell ! And yet the correlation between the March and May sections of each graph suggests not so much... Or did you conveniently overlook that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skallywag Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 I am still waiting for a Government Health official to shut down all roads to personal vehicles. People need to use public transportation or walk. Simple, healthy, money saving, and good for the air and the economy as well. Why such a concern over a virus when you willingly accept 23,000 deaths every year from automobile accidents? I just read the Philippines shut down because of 3,000 Covid deaths, yet their annual seasonal flu death rate in 75,000 every year? How does that make sense? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, agood1963 said: The economic death of the land of smiles. better to be safe than sorry. many countries that opened up to tourists too soon are regretting. the second wave has brought woes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NB1986 Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Actually the government thought that tourism is neverending income of money, they became even more strict on foreigners, many rules they changed, the numbers were starting to drop even before Covid-19 they didnt do anything to fined solution they were counting on hordes and masses of Chinese and Indians to saving their tourism sector. Now Chinese are making large pool parties in Wuhan spitting into the face of rest of the world. The prices on Real estate, hotel businesses significantly dropped i expect before 2030 that it will not be Thailand anymore but Chiland, and all money will go back to mother China only peanuts like taxes will stay to the government. Edited August 28, 2020 by NB1986 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Make it 9 just to be sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Thailand will NOT be open to tourists until late 2021 or 2022. End of story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted August 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Swimfan said: So when they get more equipment and reagents etc more people come out to get tested ? There's been a queue in most places. In Thailand they stopped publishing the numbers of pending tests when it was evident they could do only a few per day. Even in Finland, where the situation is pretty good, the supply can barely cope with demand. In many places still you can't get tested at all. One of the likely reasons doctors are trying to stop the invasion is that they know Thailand's testing capacity won't be able to take it. "Too expensive", better buy a few submarines. Edited August 28, 2020 by DrTuner 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 They finally have walking street all for themselves and so why Its dead now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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