One shot dead in Portland as rival protesters clash

[PatOngo]

7 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Maybe it was the good guy who fired first.

 

Regardless..................more dead Americans! ????

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, PatOngo said:

Image..................................America without guns! But then again, you'd probably beat each other with sticks!

 

We do.  Sometimes.

 

If it were at all true about there being outdoor parties in New Jersey celebrating the 9/11 attacks, this is what them Jersey boys would have put to use.  It would have gone down in history as "the night of the Louisville Slugger."

The movie Goodfellas gives a good demonstration of how it's done.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2020 by bendejo

[Sujo]

This is trumps america.

[pixelaoffy]

And a US president was supposed to always unite the country! Falling apart and scary what will happen win or lose in November 

[PatOngo]

13 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

And a US president was supposed to always unite the country! Falling apart and scary what will happen win or lose in November 

Either way, China is eyeing the throne!

[RoadWarrior371]

2 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Either way, China is eyeing the throne!

Don't worry, we will still protect our small European communities against that tyranny. 

[Cryingdick]

If you leave your city in the grips of a riot for more than 90 days, don't be surprised if freaks start to show up. It's not a great optic.

[Estrada]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Tell us how Trump encouraged murder and mayhem. Did he give secret hand signals, a wink, please show proof of your accusations.

All the proof you need is published by him on his Twitter feed and you know that very well.

[jvs]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government.  Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history.

Tell me please ,how would you fight the government?

Times have changed,200 years ago every one had the same guns.

Now the government has tanks,drones and fighter jets.They can also shut of the power and water supply to most people if they really wanted to.

What do you have?A high powered automatic assault rifle ?

Don't make me laugh,your mind set is very old.

A lot of second amendment followers have no thoughts of their own,they just keep repeating the same

old outdated bs.

 

[Sujo]

40 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

If you leave your city in the grips of a riot for more than 90 days, don't be surprised if freaks start to show up. It's not a great optic.

The freaks you speak of have been called great patriots by trump.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government.  Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history.

So you think its time people took up arms against the trump govt.

[animalmagic]

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

So you think its time people took up arms against the trump govt.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK

 

[GMajor]

4 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

...and then a bad guy with a gun to shoot the good guy with a gun and so on ad infinitum..

"The crowd all gathered 'round
And wondered at his final words

Don't take your guns to town son
Leave your guns at home Bill
Don't take your guns to town"

- Johnny R. Cash

[gazza4]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Tell us how Trump encouraged murder and mayhem. Did he give secret hand signals, a wink, please show proof of your accusations.

Are you serious? Can I recommend that you watch and listen to trump. You will find all the proof that you seek. trump is a professional mob boss.

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Evil does not communicate,  does not cooperate, does not compromise, does not tolerate any position other than its own. 

 

This is not the face of democracy...it is not the vision of the founders of the constitution,  it has not been historically expedient to riot, loot, and burn to gain political leverage...

 

"Stupid is as stupid does!"

That said ... was the USA not founded on rioting, looting and burning along with “massacres” ... say in Boston? The seizing of privately owned tea destroyed in Boston, Charleston, Annapolis, Princeton and Greenwich (we burned the tea there). I am not defending nor condemning ... just reminding of the historical record. There certainly have been other times of protests turning violent.

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

...and then a bad guy with a gun to shoot the good guy with a gun and so on ad infinitum..

Until the whole world is blind ... or we see unending warfare in the world today....

[wwest5829]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Image..................................America without guns! But then again, you'd probably beat each other with sticks!

Hmm, possible as no one is addressing the justified cause of the protests and so the madness continues. Sad, the built up frustration/anger has the citizens chewing on each other while those with the wealth/power sit back and watch. They will be safe as long as they can sacrifice the police trying to maintain order. 

[wwest5829]

41 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK

 

Exactly ... when there is an issue to be addressed and the issue is ignored, violence often results.

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

stochastic

Ugh!  Haven't heard (or seen) this word since school days.  Tonight I'll probably have nightmares of being unprepared for an exam on linear differential equations.

 

 

[J Town]

Both Kelly Ann (bye bye Felicia) Conway and Lara Trump have said this violence in the streets is GOOD for 45's re-election. And if you don't find that disturbing . . .

[Isaan sailor]

How come the New York Times and other media label conservative groups such as Patriot Prayer as “far right”?  They never label Antifa or BLM as “far left”.

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, wwest5829 said:

That said ... was the USA not founded on rioting, looting and burning along with “massacres” ... say in Boston? The seizing of privately owned tea destroyed in Boston, Charleston, Annapolis, Princeton and Greenwich (we burned the tea there). I am not defending nor condemning ... just reminding of the historical record. There certainly have been other times of protests turning violent.

Americans were protesting England's rule...not other Americans....

[Ireland32]

6 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump.  "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create."

 

I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work.  When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune.  But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds.  These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools.

It certainly takes one to know one , You Win

[Ireland32]

1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

How come the New York Times and other media label conservative groups such as Patriot Prayer as “far right”?  They never label Antifa or BLM as “far left”.

Because Patriots are men in women’s clothes 

[Mama Noodle]

Man under investigation in fatal shooting after pro-Trump rally allegedly took loaded gun to earlier Portland protest

 

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A 48-year-old man who was accused of carrying a loaded gun at an earlier downtown Portland protest is under investigation in the fatal shooting Saturday night of a right-wing demonstrator after a pro-Trump rally.

 

Michael Forest Reinoehl calls himself an anti-fascist and has posted videos and photos of demonstrations he attended since late June, accompanied by the hashtags #blacklivesmatter, #anewnation and #breonnataylor.

 

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-after-pro-trump-rally-allegedly-took-loaded-gun-to-earlier-portland-protest.html

 

 

'I am 100% Antifa': Alleged Portland shooter was previously arrested—and released—for bringing illegal loaded gun to a riot

 

 

 

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The man being investigated by police in the fatal shooting of a Trump supporter in Portland identifies as Antifa and is an ardent Black Lives Matter supporter. Michael Forest Reinoehl was previously arrested at an Antifa riot in July and charged with illegally possessing a loaded firearm and other crimes. He was let go and the charges were never pursued. He allegedly went on to kill Aaron "Jay" Danielson on Saturday night in downtown Portland.

 

The Oregonian was first to report that Reinoehl, 48, is being investigated by Portland police for the homicide. He has not been formally named or charged. 

 

In the early hours of July 5 during the start of violent Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots outside the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse, Reinoehl was cited for possessing a loaded gun in a public place, resisting arrest, and interfering with police. He was photographed at the time fighting cops while on the ground. A gun laid on the ground next to him. He was cited, released and spent no time in the county jail. Like for the majority of those arrested at riots, local prosecutors did not pursue the charges. 

https://thepostmillennial.com/i-am-100-antifa-alleged-portland-shooter-was-previously-arrested-and-released-for-bringing-illegal-loaded-gun-to-a-riot

[EVENKEEL]

7 hours ago, Estrada said:

All the proof you need is published by him on his Twitter feed and you know that very well.

Sooo, zilch heh......

[Isaan sailor]

7 hours ago, J Town said:

Both Kelly Ann (bye bye Felicia) Conway and Lara Trump have said this violence in the streets is GOOD for 45's re-election. And if you don't find that disturbing . . .

Nah, I find Biden’s “You ain’t black” comment disturbing.

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Nah, I find Biden’s “You ain’t black” comment disturbing.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

[flexomike]

12 hours ago, Tug said:

A good guy did try to get the little murdering vigilantes gun away and got killed for it he was protecting his girl

 

[IAMHERE]

13 hours ago, PatOngo said:

So, why was'nt there a good guy with a gun to shoot the bad guy with a gun? ???? 

To early in the investigation to draw that conclusion.  Could be a bad guy died, maybe not.