Trump on defensive as critics seize on reports he insulted U.S. veterans

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, Morch said:

 

"...nobody of any significance is gonna be duped and no minds will be changed."

 

Voters are significant. A Trump supporter adopting the very same style his idol is criticized for.

Yeah, surely THIS time it’ll be the end of Trump ????

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

Birther.

Benghazi.

PizzaGate.

Lock-her-up.

I prefer the ones who didn't get captured.

.......

 

Plenty more. But sure....it's all the Dems.

If the Dems can’t win, then yes it’s their fault. Nobody else’s. 

[Morch]

45 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Yeah, surely THIS time it’ll be the end of Trump ????

 

That's not what I said. You're deflecting. What you essentially posted was that voters are of no significance. That's on par with Trump's comments about veterans.

[Morch]

45 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

If the Dems can’t win, then yes it’s their fault. Nobody else’s. 

 

And yet another deflection. My post had nothing to do with your nonsense reply. The poster I addressed alleged that the Democrats are heavily invested in gutter campaigning, fake news and the like. Seems like merely posting a partial list of such by Republicans is unacceptable.

[Redline]

18 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 

Well it was fun while it lasted. But like the Russia collusion fiasco, the Smollett lynching and the Sandmann racist kid it was too good to be true. Not that truth ever played a part in the irrational hatred of Donald Trump.

 

Sky News host Paul Murray says the biggest example of fake news played out in the United States in the last week and leveled unfounded and wrong attacks at President Donald Trump. The left leaning publication, The Atlantic, released an article written by four nameless people who suggested Donald Trump didn’t want to go to a war cemetery in France because those who died in war are “losers” and “suckers”. The unsourced story, with no names and big claims, became mainstream after it was talked about by presidential hopeful Joe Biden, Mr Murray said.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6188224532001

 

 If anybody is interested in conclusive proof this is fake news, see 3.34 on this video and you will see hard evidence the trip was cancelled due to bad weather. 

 

 And final proof this is fake news, is witness and Trump hater John Bolton who was actually there at the time this supposed event happened said he did not hear anything like the accusations.

 

Epic fail!

 

He dodged the draft 5 times brother-he was laughing then, and he still is, and I’m sure he mentioned it because he can keep his mouth shut 

[candide]

I've just watched Trumps speech! I nearly <deleted> in my pants! ????

[MajarTheLion]

3 hours ago, Redline said:

He dodged the draft 5 times brother-he was laughing then, and he still is, and I’m sure he mentioned it because he can keep his mouth shut 

Both Biden and Trump dodged the draft five times. Biden has either voted for or supported more wars that have ended in the deaths of US troops than Trump and probably a large majority of politicians in DC.

In fact, it appears Trump is the only president since Reagan that hasn't gotten us into any new wars. That said, I'm disappointed he hasn't gotten us out of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

There is always the flip side to an argument.

[MajarTheLion]

2 hours ago, candide said:

I've just watched Trumps speech! I nearly <deleted> in my pants! ????

It's hard to measure how significant this is without knowing just how often you <deleted> your pants.  ????????????????????????

Edited September 7, 2020 by MajarTheLion

[TopDeadSenter]

Bolton giving a thorough interview covering the events that day. He totally 100% debunks the narrative that Trump denigrated the fallen soldiers as per the Atlantic allegations. 

 

"John Bolton calls report Trump disparaged military ‘completely false’ | Exclusive"

 

[Tug]

34 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Bolton giving a thorough interview covering the events that day. He totally 100% debunks the narrative that Trump denigrated the fallen soldiers as per the Atlantic allegations. 

 

"John Bolton calls report Trump disparaged military ‘completely false’ | Exclusive"

 

Weren’t you dissing Bolton yesterday?he wasent present when trump said that one particular time trump attacked his betters

[Kelsall]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Bolton giving a thorough interview covering the events that day. He totally 100% debunks the narrative that Trump denigrated the fallen soldiers as per the Atlantic allegations. 

 

"John Bolton calls report Trump disparaged military ‘completely false’ | Exclusive"

 

Good find.  The left is in panic mode as they come out with "anonymous sources" that denigrate Trump.  They know Trump is going to win big and phony attacks is all they have.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Kelsall

[RJRS1301]

11 hours ago, Dap said:

Wet hair????

Not enough spray to hold the hair in place,and would streak the tan if became wet.

[RocketDog]

18 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Fox news ?

I thought they weren't a trustworthy news source ?

Posters on here have many times told me to stop watching it because its all lies 

Hey, every organization slips up at times because lazy (or thoughtful) individuals forget (or bravely ignore) the proscribed talking points. 

Four thousand lies do not a truth make. 

Faux News is a study in a well-oiled propaganda machine. Machiavelli would have devoted several chapters to it in 'The Prince' had it existed then. The very embodiment of fake news but admirable in its consistent hypocrisy. 

[CorpusChristie]

12 hours ago, Morch said:

 

"...nobody of any significance is gonna be duped and no minds will be changed."

 

Voters are significant. A Trump supporter adopting the very same style his idol is criticized for.

The point was that voters will not be deciding who they vote for based on this story .

There have been numerous false stories , false allegations and false accusations .

Middle of the road voters may even realise theres a deceitful campaign by the media against Trump and thus decide to vote for him   

[RJRS1301]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The point was that voters will not be deciding who they vote for based on this story .

There have been numerous false stories , false allegations and false accusations .

Middle of the road voters may even realise theres a deceitful campaign by the media against Trump and thus decide to vote for him   

So the entire media is lying, and Trump is the only one who tells the entire unadulterated truth.

He never tells falsehoods, exaggerates or has a strange relationship with truth?
Strange that this was reported in Europe as I recall as it happened,the obfuscation is amazing

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

So the entire media is lying, and Trump is the only one who tells the entire unadulterated truth.

He never tells falsehoods, exaggerates or has a strange relationship with truth?
Strange that this was reported in Europe as I recall as it happened,the obfuscation is amazing

We are talking about this particular story .

Where and when was this story reported in Europe at that time ?

I thought that this story was only released last week , where did you read about it before (when it supposedly happened two years ago ?)

[Berkshire]

7 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

Both Biden and Trump dodged the draft five times. Biden has either voted for or supported more wars that have ended in the deaths of US troops than Trump and probably a large majority of politicians in DC.

In fact, it appears Trump is the only president since Reagan that hasn't gotten us into any new wars. That said, I'm disappointed he hasn't gotten us out of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

There is always the flip side to an argument.

Aren't you ex-military?  Trump seems to think that military people are too stupid to make it in the private sector.  Perhaps you can answer this question from Trump....

 

[....after then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joe Dunford had delivered a White House briefing, Trump asked aides: "That guy is smart.  Why did he join the military?"]

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-losers-suckers-troops-scandal-call-action-america-s-ncna1239433

 

[Morch]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Bolton giving a thorough interview covering the events that day. He totally 100% debunks the narrative that Trump denigrated the fallen soldiers as per the Atlantic allegations. 

 

"John Bolton calls report Trump disparaged military ‘completely false’ | Exclusive"

 

 

No, he doesn't "100% debunks" anything. The things could have been said when he was not present (as was already claimed). And he confirms the President's habit of disparaging and denigrating all and sundry.

Try harder.

[Rimmer]

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[Morch]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

The point was that voters will not be deciding who they vote for based on this story .

There have been numerous false stories , false allegations and false accusations .

Middle of the road voters may even realise theres a deceitful campaign by the media against Trump and thus decide to vote for him   

 

What was actually posted was that nobody of significance would believe (or in poster's partisan version, "duped"). While poster might hope this will have no effect, it is hardly probable that it will be so. Therefore, in essence, those people who will believe this story and possibly change their minds are "insignificant". Or in other words, voters who do not vote for Trump are insignificant. About the same attitude your idol exhibits so often.

 

Noted again that you do not have any issues with false stories, allegations and false accusations - even when they are clearly shown to be so, as long as they originate from Trump or the Right. That you allege the existence of a "deceitful campaign by the media" doesn't make it true, nor will it make this story, and others, go away.

 

 

[CorpusChristie]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

 

 

Noted again that you do not have any issues with false stories, allegations and false accusations - even when they are clearly shown to be so, as long as they originate from Trump or the Right. That you allege the existence of a "deceitful campaign by the media" doesn't make it true, nor will it make this story, and others, go away.

 

 

What makes you say that ?

What leads you to believe that I have "no issues with false stories , allegations or false accusations "

Do explain how you came to that conclusion 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

What makes you say that ?

What leads you to believe that I have "no issues with false stories , allegations or false accusations "

Do explain how you came to that conclusion 

Perhaps its because you never post anything against trumps lies.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

What makes you say that ?

What leads you to believe that I have "no issues with false stories , allegations or false accusations "

Do explain how you came to that conclusion 

 

As far as I'm aware you've never commented negatively on such issues when originating from Trump or other Right wing sources. On the contrary, you often attempt to defend and deflect them.

 

Now, I'm guessing the response would be along along these lines:

 

1. Challenge the description, ask for "evidence" you did not express this or that.

2. Claim posters cannot know what you "really" think.

3. Insist for examples of such false stories etc. and/or deny them outright.

4. Just ask some question.

 

 

 

Edited September 8, 2020 by Morch

[paddypower]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Only the most ardent supporters of this man will continue to defend him in the face of these accusations. They are totally in character with who the man is and virtually everything we know about him. They are in character with many statements that he's made about John McCain who was a genuine American hero, and quite a few other generals and military Intelligence people, who have worked for him.

 

This is a man who dodged the draft on five occasions, did everything in his power to avoid serving his nation at a time his nation asked for his service, and out of a sense of embarrassment, shame or just pure hubris, he continues to insult demean, and lack support for the men and women who put themselves in harm's way, to protect the nation.

 

There is no doubt that Trump is the opposite of a patriot, there is no doubt that Trump is a coward and a traitor, who will sell out  his nation to despotic dictators, and who will deny aid to faithful allies Hopefully we have just a few more months left of this nonsense and then he will be in gloriously*** ushered out of Washington to a life of humiliation, a completely radioactive name that nobody in their right mind is ever going to want to touch, and a crumbling mini empire. That is just what he deserves, that is what he's worked hard for and that is something that the world will celebrate. There is no honor in his game. 

***you left out the other word, from the title of that great Tarantino war movie. ????

[paddypower]

4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

We are talking about this particular story .

Where and when was this story reported in Europe at that time ?

I thought that this story was only released last week , where did you read about it before (when it supposedly happened two years ago ?)

It's a forum, buddy. go look it up for yourself, lazybones ????

[MajarTheLion]

9 hours ago, Tug said:

Weren’t you dissing Bolton yesterday?he wasent present when trump said that one particular time trump attacked his betters

Whether one was "dissing" another does not preclude them from citing that person as a source. There are nine other sources BY NAME that state the four anonymous accusations are true. Would logic dictate people believe the ten named sources over four anonymous sources? I can't imagine an answer other than yes with regards to this logic and topic.

[stevenl]

55 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

<snip>There are nine other sources BY NAME that state the four anonymous accusations are true. <snip>

All's well that ends well then.

[CorpusChristie]

2 hours ago, paddypower said:

It's a forum, buddy. go look it up for yourself, lazybones ????

I am quite sure that it wasnt reported on two years ago and that you just made that up and I would be wasting my time looking for something that doesnt exist 

[stevenl]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

I am quite sure that it wasnt reported on two years ago and that you just made that up and I would be wasting my time looking for something that doesnt exist 

Trump's absence and the presence of European leaders, after they all met together, was widely reported on at the time.

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, MajarTheLion said:

Whether one was "dissing" another does not preclude them from citing that person as a source. There are nine other sources BY NAME that state the four anonymous accusations are true. Would logic dictate people believe the ten named sources over four anonymous sources? I can't imagine an answer other than yes with regards to this logic and topic.

So, how could the nine named sources state the four unamed people were telling the truth ?

What is their evidence ?