Korean Found with COVID after Returning from Bangkok

 

 

NONTHABURI, Sept 9 (TNA) — A South Korean man tested positive for the coronavirus disease 2019 after returning from Bangkok, according to the Department of Disease Control.

 

Dr Suwannachai Wattanayingcharoenchai, director-general of the department, said the man aged 54 left Thailand for his homeland on a Korean Air flight on Sept 4. Then he went from Incheon airport to Songtan health center for a COVID-19 test and returned home.

 

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Impossible.

 

Every one knows Thailand has eliminated covid virus.

Must have got it off a member of the airline crew everybody knows there is no covid in Thailand, number one in the world don't you know....

Airlines are going to have to get serious about cleaning their toilet seats. So many people getting infected whilst sitting on the dunny.

Interesting that even in the main full story, there is no explanation or even attempt at one regarding how this could be possible for a passenger leaving a Covid free country. If such an explanation does ever get made, you have to suspect it is going to be stretching the bounds of credibility. New claim that the incubation period could be as low as 14 minutes perhaps, so he "must have" caught it upon arrival?

15 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Must have got it off a member of the airline crew everybody knows there is no covid in Thailand, number one in the world don't you know....

Yes, and it is why Anutin was elected by WHO as the South East Asian representative.  Move along no Covid here, just in Quarantine.

23 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

, said the man aged 54 left Thailand for his homeland on a Korean Air flight

Must've copped for it as soon as the plane entered Korean airspace .. 

A person of reasonable intelligence, could be forgiven for assuming that he obviously had the virus here. This clearly though ruins the perfect lie that Thailand is clean, safe and virus free, for those desperate to come here on holiday. Anyone realistically expecting face losing admission from the Thais that they have been less than honest though? Or expect that they will find anyone else here he associated with, who has it too?

Obvious attempt by Koreans to spread fake-new to discredit Thailand's prestigious position among the nations...

 

Shame on you foreigners!

Maybe he was infected by the DJ

There is a perfectly rational explanation just give them time about 6 months should do???? 

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Maybe he was infected by the DJ

Or his dealer.

 

Kidding aside it's impossible to say where he got it without retracing every single step of this guy. Has he been testing positive on follow up tests as well or just the initial one?

26 minutes ago, FlyingThai said:

Kidding aside it's impossible to say where he got it without retracing every single step of this guy. Has he been testing positive on follow up tests as well or just the initial one?

Will they have done another one so soon after the first? I thought they normally waited a week. I'm not sure what type of test they use but in general the rate of false positives is supposed to be 0.1% I guess the number of people leaving Thailand and getting tested is in the thousands, so you would expect one or two false positives here and there. Until they find the source of the DJ's infection it's pretty much moot anyway.

56 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Interesting that even in the main full story, there is no explanation or even attempt at one regarding how this could be possible for a passenger leaving a Covid free country. If such an explanation does ever get made, you have to suspect it is going to be stretching the bounds of credibility. New claim that the incubation period could be as low as 14 minutes perhaps, so he "must have" caught it upon arrival?

Where's the link to any claim by Thailand that they are Covid free?

 

Must bash on, eh?

He must have gone to Khao San Road last week-end and went to the bar where the Covid + DJ worked , that's the only explanation 

 

Hees a link to a story indicating they have had no domestic cases so in essence Covid free.  Do not test Do not Tell

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/thailand-100-days-coronavirus-free-intl-hnk/index.html

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

A South Korean man tested positive for the coronavirus disease 2019 after returning from Bangkok, according to the Department of Disease Control.

Don't they get tested before boarding and get a fit to fly certificate?Are they going to now test about 600 contacts he had before and during his leaving?

Could it be Thai's are immune or asymptomatic?
Lets do some testing to find out!

5 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Could it be Thai's are immune or asymptomatic?
Lets do some testing to find out!

Um, too expensive. Hey, pass me that submarine. 

3 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Interesting that even in the main full story, there is no explanation or even attempt at one regarding how this could be possible for a passenger leaving a Covid free country. If such an explanation does ever get made, you have to suspect it is going to be stretching the bounds of credibility. New claim that the incubation period could be as low as 14 minutes perhaps, so he "must have" caught it upon arrival?

 

Thailand is not  considered COVID free and has never been certified as such.

 

In fact no country in the world has done this.

 

Thailand is regarded, at least so far, as having the virus pretty much under control. This  is not the same has having 100% eradicated it.

 

It is only TVF membvers who take the regular updates on cases identified (or absence thereof) as saying "we are 100% certain that there is not a single case anywhere in the country". Government has never made such a claim and indeed there would be no reason for continued precuations if they were alleging this -- but they are not.

 

They have simply reported that no (or more recently, just 1) cases were identified.

 

It is understood that identified cases, in any country, are a subset of actual infections. But they are a useful barometer; if identified cases are very few or none then actual infections are probably not large in number and if they start to become so, more cases will start to be identified.

 

Thus far in the past month or so there has been 1 case identified in country and (including this one) I think 3 identified in people who had just left the country. So 4. Too few to say whether it is a sign of an increase in actual infections. Time will tell.

12 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Could it be Thai's are immune or asymptomatic?
Lets do some testing to find out!

LOL

posters are not using their brain...

 

so there is 1 (one) Korean found positive, one among probably hundreds or thousands that came back from Thailand.

 

that only one tested positive means that COVID is really super rare in Thailand.

 

4 minutes ago, tgw said:

LOL

posters are not using their brain...

 

so there is 1 (one) Korean found positive, one among probably hundreds or thousands that came back from Thailand.

 

that only one tested positive means that COVID is really super rare in Thailand.

 

Yes people don't use their brain because sure thousands of people are flying to Korea from Thailand.
By the way what would be a low percentage 1 every thousand now lets work that out with population 65 mil = 65,000?

19 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Thailand is not  considered COVID free and has never been certified as such.

 

In fact no country in the world has done this.

 

Thailand is regarded, at least so far, as having the virus pretty much under control. This  is nto the same has having 100% eradicated it.

 

It is only TVF membvers who take the regular updates on cases identified (or absence thereof) as saying "we are 100% certain that there is nto a single case anywhere in the country". Government has never made such a claim and indeed there owudl be no reason for continued precuations if they were alleging this -- but they are not.

 

They have simply reported that no (or more recently, just 1) cases were identified.

 

It is understood that identified cases, in any country, are a subset of actual infections. But they are a useful barometer; if identified cases are very few or none then actual infections are probably not large in number and if they start to become so, more cases will start to be identified.

 

thus far in the past month or so there has been 1 case identified in country and (including this one) I think 3 identified in people who had just left the country. So 4. Too few to say whether it is a sign of an increase in actual infections. Time will tell.

Are you saying that there is some sort of official certification available?

I think people need to be truly honest with themselves - and ask "do I really understand epidemiology, testing technology and viruses, or have I just Googled all my information"?

 

Testing for viruses is not an exact science, and the technogy is fairly new and still developing.  When I was involved in infection control in the 80's and 90's, viral outbreaks were identified from symptoms and by a process of elimination by testing for bacteria.  A few highly specialist medical schools could try to identify a virus using it's appearance under electron microscopy (hence the name 'Coronavirus') but it was very hit and miss.  Then test kits started to appear that react to indicators, but they are not totally reliable - the type used by the UK Government for example is known to have a high false positive error, which may explain the high case numbers but low fatality rate in UK.

 

PCR testing can be more reliable, but it's expensive and slower.

 

In addition, viruses are just strands of DNA in a bag, they are not really alive like bacteria or parasites - and how a person responds to a virus has many variables related to their own DNA, their health and their age.

 

So when we hear a person has been found to be positive, it could be a false positive, or the person may have contracted COVID months ago, and they are still positive because of how their body responded to the virus.  It really means very little to ssy a particular person is positive.  They may have no symptoms and have stopped shedding the virus weeks ago.

 

There are some viruses that people can catch, recover, but it's in their system forever ..... Herpes for example.

 

It looks like none of the 900+ contacts of the DJ caught it ..... so possibly another case.

 

At the same time it's just not credible that Thailand is a little COVID-free oasis in a pandemic world.  So some people are exposed to it, may never even get sick, but may test positive.  So what?

 

How do we thing it would look if we tested every traveller for flu, Herpes, Chickenpox?  The global response to COVID has been an economic tragedy, with hysteria whipped up by the media, and spread by born-again virologists who's only qualification is access to Google.

 

From the viewpoint of a normal, healthy person under the age of 70, it really is no diffetent to a seasonal flu outbreak.  And when people quote the number of deaths - what are they comparing it to?  Is a hundred thousand high, a million? Or is that normal for an epidemic in a large country?  Certainly many more people die of common water or food borne diseases per day than of COVID.  We really need to stop spouting nonesense stats and Keep calm and carry on.

They keep catching them in other countries when coming from Thailand. But, somehow none in Thailand. 

 

I wonder why this is... 

21 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

They keep catching them in other countries when coming from Thailand. But, somehow none in Thailand. 

 

I wonder why this is... 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

 

That is weird. I sat next to a Korean man on the evening of September 3 in Crazy House.  I remember because he was sweating and his eyes were bulging out of his head. 

Thailand has plenty of virus..... open up commercial flights, test on arrival, lets get after it !  

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

Thailand is not  considered COVID free and has never been certified as such.

 

In fact no country in the world has done this.

 

Thailand is regarded, at least so far, as having the virus pretty much under control. This  is not the same has having 100% eradicated it.

 

It is only TVF membvers who take the regular updates on cases identified (or absence thereof) as saying "we are 100% certain that there is not a single case anywhere in the country". Government has never made such a claim and indeed there would be no reason for continued precuations if they were alleging this -- but they are not.

 

They have simply reported that no (or more recently, just 1) cases were identified.

 

It is understood that identified cases, in any country, are a subset of actual infections. But they are a useful barometer; if identified cases are very few or none then actual infections are probably not large in number and if they start to become so, more cases will start to be identified.

 

Thus far in the past month or so there has been 1 case identified in country and (including this one) I think 3 identified in people who had just left the country. So 4. Too few to say whether it is a sign of an increase in actual infections. Time will tell.

 

Not just ThaiVisa members, but Thailands Dept Prime Pinister / Public Health Minister, Anutin also lorded virtuous Thailand having had no local transmission for 100 days, along with scores of media, local and international. 

 

That said, no local transmission is not quite the same as 100% Covid-19 free, yet the implications are the same. 

 

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