Thailand's real crisis is the economy

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

hope all the businesses die. 

Why do you hope for that?

[billd766]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

hope all the businesses die. 

What a nasty sad person you are.

 

Also a very stupid one too. If all the businesses are closed, millions more people will be made jobless. They will be forced to live in poverty and the death rate by suicide will rise steeply. 

 

Also if all the businesses close where will you buy food, water, alcohol, cleaning stuff from. There will be no gas stations, BTS, ARL, no mobile phones, no internet, no flights in and out of the country. In fact Thailand will just run to a stand still. 

 

All these things I have mentioned are businesses, which YOU want shut down.

[couchpotato]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

hope all the businesses die. 

What a ignorant thing to say--even on this forum.

Maybe you should join them.

[Stargeezr]

Yup I digress, and I should have said the Asian plants that Thais eat and

call vegetables. As well as the Asian fruits like Durian, Jack fruit, Dragon Fruit,

  Star Apples,  Longan, etc.  I ate at restaurants mostly that had lettuce and a tomato slice

and sometimes peas and corn.  The leafy vegetables that Thais eat have an

acquired taste, and you better have real teeth in good shape.

Geezer

[Don Chance]

Tourists will probably face more robbery when they return.  I remember theft was a problem years ago from guesthouses and buses.

[steven100]

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

What a nasty sad person you are.

 

Also a very stupid one too. If all the businesses are closed, millions more people will be made jobless. They will be forced to live in poverty and the death rate by suicide will rise steeply. 

 

Also if all the businesses close where will you buy food, water, alcohol, cleaning stuff from. There will be no gas stations, BTS, ARL, no mobile phones, no internet, no flights in and out of the country. In fact Thailand will just run to a stand still. 

 

All these things I have mentioned are businesses, which YOU want shut down.

don't really hope they go under ... but a clean up of the greedy one's wouldn't be missed imo.

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, rumak said:

I am not very well read ......   the advantage of that is that I rarely plagiarize   55

 

but google is a real tool ( not the type of tool we sometimes find here)

quote: 

Oliver Twist became a vehicle for social criticism aimed directly at the problem of poverty in 19th-century London.

 

ahhh,  so a social critic i might be .   but forums are full of them    chai mai ?

 

Chai. In the book, Dickens relates the story of a philosopher who attempted to train a camel to live on no food at all. Permit me to doubt that is going to work with the Thais, food is a sacred ritual to them.

[dbrenn]

Tourism is stuffed all around the world. 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

don't really hope they go under ... but a clean up of the greedy one's wouldn't be missed imo.

It didn't quite come out that way.

 

IMO what will probably happen is (at least in the tourist areas) most of the bars will not reopen, many of the cheaper hotels and guest houses will go the same way because their customer stream has dried up. 

 

TBH I don't think that this goverment really give a rats anus about the little people in Thailand. Several of the larger ones have taken advantage of the governments offer to become ASQ and get a subsidy for doing so.

 

I don't think the the foreign tourists will ever return in the same numbers as most people in their own countries   are suffering with a lack of jobs/money etc and don't want to go straight into 2 weeks quarantine at an ASQ of the governments choice. Thw cost of airfares will be higher and they have to jump through many hoops just to get here.

 

If the govenmeny here keeps all the restrictions in place until year end they might get some tourists in the first quarter of 2021 but it won't be like it was before. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/10/2020 at 9:16 AM, webfact said:

Thailand's real crisis is the economy

Just like every other country in the doodoo. No matter the spin, the virus is not the problem, IMO, it's governments response to the virus that has caused the economic collapse.

IMO someone is getting rather rich out of all this chaos.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, billd766 said:

What a nasty sad person you are.

 

Also a very stupid one too. If all the businesses are closed, millions more people will be made jobless. They will be forced to live in poverty and the death rate by suicide will rise steeply. 

 

Also if all the businesses close where will you buy food, water, alcohol, cleaning stuff from. There will be no gas stations, BTS, ARL, no mobile phones, no internet, no flights in and out of the country. In fact Thailand will just run to a stand still. 

 

All these things I have mentioned are businesses, which YOU want shut down.

Do you not understand that Thailand is a capitalist country, NOT a socialist one. Capitalism has two sides and if one is not winning one is losing.

To save Thailand the way you apparently want, Thailand would have to become socialist.

 

People lived quite happily back before gas stations, BTS, ARL, mobile phones, internet, flights and can do so again. They might even be happier without social media poisoning millions of young minds.

 

Businesses where will you buy food, water, alcohol, cleaning stuff from existed for centuries and will continue to do so. Perhaps not in supermarkets and that can only be a good thing, IMO.

 

They will be forced to live in poverty and the death rate by suicide will rise steeply. 

No. Most Thais still have ties to the village and can go back there to survive. They are far better off than in western countries where most people live in cities and don't even know farmers.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They can do alot. They can open the borders to any and all comers, who are willing to endure quarantine. Certify 1,000, not 42 hotels as facilities. Zero risk. Something is better than nothing. By doing nothing, they will be held responsible for sabotaging the economy. Doing nothing is sadism. 

NO, get it, NO two week to 30 day tourist is coming if they have to spend it in quarantine. Most tourists arrive on 30 day visa exempt.

I say again NO tourist is coming if they have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine. They'll holiday at home.

Even if I got a tourist visa That's a month in quarantine- 2 weeks in LOS and 2 weeks back in NZ on return. Just not worth it.

[spidermike007]

42 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

NO, get it, NO two week to 30 day tourist is coming if they have to spend it in quarantine. Most tourists arrive on 30 day visa exempt.

I say again NO tourist is coming if they have to spend 2 weeks in quarantine. They'll holiday at home.

Even if I got a tourist visa That's a month in quarantine- 2 weeks in LOS and 2 weeks back in NZ on return. Just not worth it.

You may be right. Although most countries do NOT have a quarantine upon return from someplace with such a low infection rate. However, there are expats and potential long stay tourists who would come. Why create ANY restrictions for them, if they are willing to endure quarantine at their own expense? That is where the current policy gets insane, timid, cowardly and sadistic.