The Yanks are going to be major butt hurt when they do not get invited.

The Yanks are going to be major butt hurt when they do not get invited.

Why didn't he say his ATTA would  pay the salaries of all the contact tracers who will be busy like bees.    He states cases are declining but not in my state.  We are at record high new cases.   Spewing lies and expressing  greed isn't going to go over well with the thai people who don't work in tourism  and are enjoying life and feeling somewhat secure.  They are practicing social distancing and face masks but have been shown buy  top dogs and news and protests that western foreigners dont wear masks.   And they disliked Chinese tourists before.   I think thai people are enjoying their country without tourism.   Let tourism die.  

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by Elkski

7 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

That's the point. 

 

They don't want foreigners here at the moment and I wholeheartedly agree with them. 

No,the point is they NEED the tourist spending with the income and jobs that generates,but one doesn’t come without the other. The false situation might suit you (selfishly ) at first but eventually ,living surrounded by mass unemployment and hardship will become uncomfortable for you too.

I don't think he is in a position or qualified to "DEMAND" anything. Just let people in from France, Spain, USA, the UK, Italy without quarantine and see what happens...

Why is everyone so worried about this darn virus. It’s not the bubonic plague and stirring up all of this hysteria over what amounts to a bad cold or the flu is just plain madness and is destroying countless lives (not from Covid) and fostering economic chaos. 

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

I want two blondes and a Ferrari but that's not going to happen either.  

It would have if you’d paid more attention at school- it did for me! ???? 

5 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

If this actually happened, could you imagine how quickly attacks, possibly fatal attacks, would start against any foreigners from frightened population?

Foreigners would fight back hard - via TripAdvisor! ???? 

The virus will never go away. How should it? It is here for good. What is the point in closing the borders and bankrupt the country? An effective vaccine can't be developed. Just open the gates.

Why are so many contributors to this forum so racist?

4 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

50.000 baht per person in 5-7 days??? non stop alcohol drugs & hookers ?

Oh, very easy to spend that, sure! 

what disease?  thinking like this is a disease. 

This guy is a nobody.  

Indeed, China would never allow its citizens to come to Thailand and back to China and shut down its economy.  It's said it in a round about way, a face saving way, and that's the way it will be.  

 

1 hour ago, Sametboy2019 said:

If that was the case then why didnt it rip through Thailand before when Wuhan people were visiting until mid March, almost 4 months after the first case in Wuhan.

The virus is burning out. UK numbers are going up but deaths and hospitalization are down. Sweden didnt have a lockdown and they are through it. Wear a mask, wash your hands and dont get too close to people. Its not the black death. There was a TB outbreak in 2015 and 1.5 million people died. Anybody remember that? No cause it wasnt rammed down your throat everyday. TB is highly contagious and yet almost nobody knows about this outbreak in 2015.

 

Approx 1.5M people die of TB each year....there was nothing special about 2015.   TB is like many other diseases such as cancer and heart disease that kill a consistent number of people each year.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927938/

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Tuberculosis (TB) is a leading cause of morbidity and mortality worldwide, accounting for about 9.6 million new cases and 1.5 million deaths annually.

 

https://www.who.int/tb/publications/global_report/tb19_Exec_Sum_12Nov2019.pdf

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Globally, an estimated 10.0 million (range, 9.0–11.1 million)2 people fell ill with TB in 2018, a number that has been relatively stable in recent years. The burden of disease varies enormously among countries, from fewer than five to more than 500 new cases per 100 000 population per year, with the global average being around 130. There were an estimated 1.2million (range, 1.1–1.3 million) TB deaths among HIV-negative people in 2018 (a 27% reduction from 1.7 million in 2000)

 

3 hours ago, charmonman said:

You have no idea what you are talking about. Flu cases are down because the same precautions that have been taken to prevent the spread of COVID-19 are obviously also effective against the spread of seasonal flu. By the way Trump just announced that he and Melanie have COVID-19.

Very sorry about your Alzheimer’s. Are you sure that’s the problem?

Flu cases are not down this year. I looked it up a week ago, and the number of deaths with flu was 351,000. Comparably, the number of deaths with corona was 950,000. On average around half a million die with flu a year, so this year is no exception. 

3 hours ago, 2long said:

Nonsense reins once more.

Covid is already here, but Thailand doesn't test the general public.

Western governments are over-testing and the figures are shockingly high.

The reason is that this virus is everywhere, and will remain so forever.

What the governments are not telling us is that it's so weak and not at all deadly to a half-healthy human. Look at how many people test positive but are asymptomatic, and then the vast majority of even the ones who show symptoms make a full recovery.

Finally, if you test positive and die of anything, they count it as a Covid death. Listen to/Read the news when they talk about deaths. They use particular terms to say things like 'died after testing positive' and things like that.

Open the borders, let people in and allow the rest of the world to live normal lives. Anyone who's scared can hide.

This is true, actually, because the first confirmed corona case in Thailand was in the middle of JANUARY, and nothing was closed down until two months later, so it had two months to spread freely. So, of course it is there. This corona thing is such a sick games...

3 hours ago, Mung said:

Or the Chinese can sell Thailand their awesome amazing and hurried vaccine - they managed to sell them a bundle of submarines, so it shouldn't be too difficult 

I'm surprised they didn't sell the ventilators by the hundreds or thousands like they did to other nations, you know the ones that were faulty or ended up killing innocent people on mass.

 

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/first-choice-how-china-and-the-who?r=6a3x3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter&fbclid=IwAR3wDGoFuUjUNwkmX3WhYLUxQ-ydxf7zPFFYa4QGZ_uyT2WEn3zxXJqLchs

Glad he spoke up.
Expect good sense will ultimately prevail to enable more people to visit, get some back to work, while minimizing any outbreak.

"no quarantine in December when we expect 100,000 foreigners to want to come for 5-7 days."

Has any tourist ever come to Thailand for 5-7 days?? Chinese tourists stays maybe 10-14 days when they're coming on those group tours where everything is pre-arranged. 

He was particularly referring to short stay tourists coming from mainland China and Taiwan. 

 

Why am I not surprised? Have these clowns really forgotten where the virus originated from?

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by teacherclaire

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I hope they will find someone competent and less greedy for that job for the future.

There will always be a risky balance between economy and public health. Your Farang country tries that, too. But East Asian countries are obviously better in both. And that's why in fact Farangs envy them. 

9 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

"no quarantine in December when we expect 100,000 foreigners to want to come for 5-7 days."

Has any tourist ever come to Thailand for 5-7 days?? Chinese tourists stays maybe 10-14 days when they're coming on those group tours where everything is pre-arranged. 

My friend came to Thailand for 5 to 7 girls a day when they were still affordable 20 years ago. Haa reu for 24/7. 

4 hours ago, mike1967 said:

Your English is very good for a Thai.

I am a business owner. 

 

Businesses with the exception of those involved in tourism are just getting back to normal. 

 

Another outbreak resulting in further lockdowns and restrictions placed on businesses and industry would hurt the economy far more and affect many more people than the current unfortunate situation.

 

In addition, I don't want to catch COVID-19 from foreigners coming into the country from places that have totally and utterly failed to deal with the crisis, nor do I want my family, friends and employees to catch it either.

 

So to all the sex-tourists and other selfish tourists stuck back home wanting Thailand to open up so they can come on a jolly, suck it up, because it ain't happening.

 

Perhaps this selfish attitude is exactly why countries like the US and UK have no hope of controlling the virus?

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I am a business owner. 

 

Businesses with the exception of those involved in tourism are just getting back to normal. 

 

Another outbreak resulting in further lockdowns and restrictions placed on businesses and industry would hurt the economy far more and affect many more people than the current unfortunate situation.

 

In addition, I don't want to catch COVID-19 from foreigners coming into the country from places that have totally and utterly failed to deal with the crisis, nor do I want my family, friends and employees to catch it either.

 

So to all the sex-tourists and other selfish tourists stuck back home wanting Thailand to open up so they can come on a jolly, suck it up, because it ain't happening.

 

Perhaps this selfish attitude is exactly why countries like the US and UK have no hope of controlling the virus?

A foreigner is a foreigner is a foreigner. Unless you're Thai you fall into the category, business owner or not.

3 minutes ago, mike1967 said:

A foreigner is a foreigner is a foreigner. Unless you're Thai you fall into the category, business owner or not.

Your point caller?

What i really not understand is, that the virus is all over the world and every country has many cases (and many more dark cases because the most of the positives have no symptoms and there are not tested)  and at the same time every country is afraid that someone brings covid  to there country...

Is like to be afraid that someone brings a bottle of water to the ocean ????

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Your point caller?

My point is, you don't want foreigners to return yet you appear to be a foreigner. Can't have it both ways.

Thailand, like many tourism dependent places, caught between a rock and hard place, and add a greedy corrupt system ......the majority of its people will continue to suffer for many many more months. Many Farangs who have enough to live in Thailand seem to blind to this difficult situation, and like spectators are experts in giving their opinions to the players in the field.

18 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I am a business owner. 

 

Businesses with the exception of those involved in tourism are just getting back to normal. 

 

Another outbreak resulting in further lockdowns and restrictions placed on businesses and industry would hurt the economy far more and affect many more people than the current unfortunate situation.

 

In addition, I don't want to catch COVID-19 from foreigners coming into the country from places that have totally and utterly failed to deal with the crisis, nor do I want my family, friends and employees to catch it either.

 

So to all the sex-tourists and other selfish tourists stuck back home wanting Thailand to open up so they can come on a jolly, suck it up, because it ain't happening.

 

Perhaps this selfish attitude is exactly why countries like the US and UK have no hope of controlling the virus?

Thailand need not fear another outbreak with the disciplines already in place.

Visitors from safe countries are to encouraged, and there are many in the places including China, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Australia, NZ. Forget about sex tourists, they are no longer about to hop on a plane whether from a safe country or not.

There are so many poorer Thais, who will benefit from careful re-opening. And not just those directly involved in tourism, but those in so many cafes, bars, cleaning, tours and a myriad of small businesses.

Put an A in front of TAT and make a new anagram, it’s still all make believe.