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2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The local media are reporting freely on the first three items of the protestors demands but will not talk about the fourth one. The foreign media will blather away about that what is proscribed here so it is easier just to block them for the duration of their report.

Which is the interesting, and rather remarkable  thing in my eyes.

 

The kids are actually talking about that unmentionable topic, which if you think about it, until that is addressed nothing will fundamentally change. 

 

That wave of discussion is being reported in overseas press which I'm sure terrifies the second tier of this house of cards.

 

You can close your eyes to it, and we will never be able to openly discuss it on TVF, but it's the elephant in the room, which until someone puts a bullet to it, will haunt Thailand forever!

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The local media are reporting freely on the first three items of the protestors demands but will not talk about the fourth one. The foreign media will blather away about that what is proscribed here so it is easier just to block them for the duration of their report.

I'm confused about the number of demands.

There was this 10-point list, then the here unmentionable Nation-competitor listed 3 key demands, Al Jazeera lists 5, Nikkei Asia lists 3 (but different ones than the unmentionable paper), you say there are 4 ...

 

oh, following the Wikipedia narrative, where the first protests were held "under three demands", I see what you mean with the fourth one.

but I'm positive that demand is now #3.

 

Many local media are reporting it freely, including the state-funded ThaiPBS:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-protesters-rally-for-repeat-of-1973-uprising/

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/govt-legitimacy-eroding-fast-as-crackdown-on-protesters-makes-global-headlines/

 

now they call for Prayuth to sacrifice himself

 

 

 

Edited October 19, 20205 yr by tgw

Removed an off-topic post.

37 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Which is the interesting, and rather remarkable  thing in my eyes.

 

The kids are actually talking about that unmentionable topic, which if you think about it, until that is addressed nothing will fundamentally change. 

 

That wave of discussion is being reported in overseas press which I'm sure terrifies the second tier of this house of cards.

 

You can close your eyes to it, and we will never be able to openly discuss it on TVF, but it's the elephant in the room, which until someone puts a bullet to it, will haunt Thailand forever!

 

the views being expressed on social media, predominantly by young thais and students, are unprecedented and, frankly, remarkable. the dam has burst and the water ain't going back.

8 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

the views being expressed on social media, predominantly by young thais and students, are unprecedented and, frankly, remarkable. the dam has burst and the water ain't going back.

I must admit I'm totally amazed how openly they are discussing the 'issue' knowing full well the consequences of lese majeste.

 

I hope this actually does, this time, result in real change and move Thailand past that Feudal roadblock in which it's been stuck for so long.

 

My wife however is a lot more pessimistic, believing that the lock between the institution and the elite is such a strong self serving alliance it's almost impossible to break.

 

I hope I'm right and she's wrong.

But marriage teaches you that you are rarely right and your wife is nearly always right!

9 hours ago, tgw said:

I'm confused about the number of demands.

There was this 10-point list, then the here unmentionable Nation-competitor listed 3 key demands, Al Jazeera lists 5, Nikkei Asia lists 3 (but different ones than the unmentionable paper), you say there are 4 ...

 

oh, following the Wikipedia narrative, where the first protests were held "under three demands", I see what you mean with the fourth one.

but I'm positive that demand is now #3.

 

Many local media are reporting it freely, including the state-funded ThaiPBS:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-protesters-rally-for-repeat-of-1973-uprising/

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/govt-legitimacy-eroding-fast-as-crackdown-on-protesters-makes-global-headlines/

 

now they call for Prayuth to sacrifice himself

 

 

 

Maybe the confusion is that there are a quite a few subsets of the original four core demands? As the protests go on, there will likely be all sorts of add-ons and caveats. Most will simply augment or expand on the original four demands that I see as:

 

1 The Prime Minister (resign).

 

2 The Elections (rerun).

 

3 The Constitution (rewrite).

 

4 The other (reform).