Schoolgirl slapped for not standing up during national anthem

[rkidlad]

3 minutes ago, sirocco said:

Admittedly, the slap was too much, but imprisoning the one who gave it is really overkill.
If, in our countries, we, the natives, we sang our hymn more often, respecting this moment, we would not have hilarious, disrespectful strangers, in sports halls or fields, or near war memorials.
At least this 15 year old will know what to do next time.

At football games back when I was younger, it was always the more hooligan type characters who were adamant that people should sing the national anthem. Angry people who felt they had the right to tell others what to do and tried to induce fear.

 

You wanna sing the national anthem then go nuts. You don't wanna sing it? Then don't. Up to you. 

[ChrisY1]

Royalists beginning to get violent....

[Khun Paul]

4 hours ago, keith101 said:

Yes definitely assault and should be charged , there is no excuse for this kind of thing in modern society .

Are you saying Thailand is a modern society, please remove the blinkers 

[androokery]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I stand for the countries national anthem out of respect for the country, not for any particular persons, just as i would expect any visitor to my own uk,

This whole thing with national anthems is a relic from the late 1800's, part of a period of strong nationalistic currents - or you could call them in-family fights between royal cousins - all leading to a rather unnecessary conflict known first as The Great War. Soon renamed The First World War, setting the stage perfectly for number two. 

 

I'd much rather sit for all national anthems, or any other nationalistic nonsense. Or keep running, a very lonely activity in Lumpini park at 6pm. 

[Burma Bill]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

a woman dressed in red

She should have been dressed in yellow - that is their sort of behaviour!

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The family subsequently lodged a complaint with the police, asking them to arrest the woman for assault

Hope the women gets done in court.

[hotchilli]

44 minutes ago, steven100 said:

It's not the vendor's place to slap the young girl, she has no authority to touch anyone and as such should be punished accordingly,  as for the girl not standing ..... well that's not even worth discussing.  

I agree with the first part of your post assault is not to be allowed for any reason, as for the girl not standing during the anthem is a matter of personal choice is it not?

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I stand for the countries national anthem out of respect for the country, not for any particular persons, just as i would expect any visitor to my own uk,

Except they don't play the national anthem twice a day in the UK and expect the nation to come to a stand still.

 

[JeffersLos]

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Sums up the Thai education system.

 

A zebra's butthole? 

[samsensam]

3 hours ago, johng said:

Just to be pedantic,  they don't play the national anthem in  Thai cinemas.

 

not pedantic, a valid point, it's surprising the lack of knowledge about thailand many people here have. if you want to understand what's going on in the country, you need to understand the country.

[overt2016]

5 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Aside from the fact that standing during a National anthem should be a matter of personal choice, given the law allows such freedoms, the woman in red has no right to do anything, other than possibly making a remark of disapproval. It is an unprovoked assault for which she should be charged and imprisoned, to make her and others think twice before such action. Being Thailand a wai and 500 Baht will probably solve the matter sadly.

This practise of offering a wai and an apology is not working in the modern world. What she did was an assault and needs to be addressed as so.

Today I was almost run over at a pedestrian crossing in as much as my son had to drag me out of the way. The driver gave a smile and a one handed wai.

This utter disrespect of the laws and disrespect of others is continuing to increase in Thailand is contributing to the current protests by the young.

[JusticeGB]

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

And why on earth should she have to wai a national anthem? What does that even mean? 

 

How about some people learn to respect a person's right to sit in peace while not bothering anyone. 

It shows respect and would have avoided that incident. As far as I am aware the words include respect to the Deleted and country. The UK National Anthem has the words God save our Gracious Queen. I have always stood up for that Anthem too. What you do is up to you.

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Schoolgirl slapped for not standing up during national anthem

and they wonder why the young students are out there protesting against their tyranny dictatorship... freedom of opinion/choice, freedom of speech

Edited October 28, 2020 by Mavideol

[Mavideol]

10 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

It shows respect and would have avoided that incident. As far as I am aware the words include respect to the Deleted and country. The UK National Anthem has the words God save our Gracious Queen. I have always stood up for that Anthem too. What you do is up to you.

what about the UK nationals who don't believe in God or the ones who believe in a different God, how's that working out.... why God save the Queen and not the people and  if and when the Queen dies they will have to change it and God save the Deleted, will they remove the word  "Gracious"

[spidermike007]

A total misunderstanding of the true meaning of patriotism, by the dinosaur food vendor. Hope she gets punished. A pencil in the arm, or a hard kick to the ladies knees, would have been an appropriate response.

 

This may get ugly. The dinos just do not understand the concept of respect earned, then given. I hear many are not standing in the movie theaters either. 

[rkidlad]

18 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

It shows respect and would have avoided that incident. As far as I am aware the words include respect to the Deleted and country. The UK National Anthem has the words God save our Gracious Queen. I have always stood up for that Anthem too. What you do is up to you.

Obviously it’s not up to me. Nor her. You seem to think that people need to actively show respect because of your (and this Thai Karen’s) beliefs. 
 

Are you saying had she shown respect she’d avoided a slap? Is that along the same lines as a woman who doesn’t wear a bikini can avoid rape or a teacher who doesn’t draw the prophet can avoid having his head cut off?

 

You’re excusing violent behavior. 

[toofarnorth]

I didn't know there was a Royal Anthem but then I have never bothered with going to a Thai cinema.

[riclag]

Stand ,If the excuse was a period what the hell is she doin outside ! 

[leither69]

6 hours ago, keith101 said:

Yes definitely assault and should be charged , there is no excuse for this kind of thing in modern society .

Therein lies the problem, Thailand isn't a modern society!! Witchcraft and all sorts of nonsense still remains.

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

I didn't know there was a Royal Anthem but then I have never bothered with going to a Thai cinema.

10 years ago I was with my Thai honey at the cinema ! The Anthem came on ,I seen all the people rise ! She grabbed  my arm and said ,up !

[Salerno]

14 minutes ago, riclag said:

Stand ,If the excuse was a period what the hell is she doin outside ! 

 

In what century where women on their period banished to solitary confinement?

[riclag]

12 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

In what century where women on their period banished to solitary confinement?

Your making things up! Your talkin SC! I'm talkin if your sick ,which many females experience  from a menstrual  cycle, stay home ! Thats a p poor excuse, to not stand !

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[Enoon]

7 hours ago, keith101 said:

Yes definitely assault and should be charged , there is no excuse for this kind of thing in modern society .

 

Thailand is not a modern society.

 

It has all the "objects" of modernity, but not the ideas.

 

That's why it has been hitherto incapable of adding to modernity.

 

It only consumes it.

 

That's why the protestors are pushing for change.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Enoon

[brewsterbudgen]

53 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

what about the UK nationals who don't believe in God or the ones who believe in a different God, how's that working out.... why God save the Queen and not the people and  if and when the Queen dies they will have to change it and God save the Deleted, will they remove the word  "Gracious"

Indeed, us Brits are damned with probably the all time worst National Anthem.  I envy the French, Americans, Germans, Italians and Welsh!

[Gillyflower]

When I was a child in Australia, everybody stood for God Save  etc at the cinema or at school every morning.  No one would have dared sit down.

[DrTuner]

Ah, the good old anthem, courtesy of Phibun, the original military dictator. I guess during his reign she would've been shot.

[EVENKEEL]

52 minutes ago, riclag said:

10 years ago I was with my Thai honey at the cinema ! The Anthem came on ,I seen all the people rise ! She grabbed  my arm and said ,up !

Movie Theaters on Military bases in the US is the same, everyone stands before the movie for the Anthem.

[androokery]

1 hour ago, JusticeGB said:

It shows respect and would have avoided that incident. As far as I am aware the words include respect to the Deleted and country. The UK National Anthem has the words God save our Gracious Queen. I have always stood up for that Anthem too. What you do is up to you.

Gracious?

[riclag]

18 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Movie Theaters on Military bases in the US is the same, everyone stands before the movie for the Anthem.

Straight Up !  Its a sign of respect ,tradition and values ! If you don't stand it shows disrespect for others who have sacrificed  so much in the struggle to persevere for the future of one's country! 

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[riclag]

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