7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I remember the 2011 dinner. It was at that point that Trump started thinking, "I'm coming for your job, Barry". And he got it, taking out the entire DC political class in the process. 

Obama served his 2 terms in office. Trump went after Hillay's job, which he secured from the worst Democratic candidate ever by conducting the dirtiest presidential campaign in US history. And he still didn't win the popular vote.

 

Trump has made his 4 year tenure (no second term for him) "all about Obama" much to the detriment of the real issues facing the US.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I remember the 2011 dinner. It was at that point that Trump started thinking, "I'm coming for your job, Barry". And he got it, taking out the entire DC political class in the process. 

That's funny. I thought Obama served 2 terms. Maybe it's just because Trump thought and still thinks that Presidents are entitled to 3?

34 minutes ago, polpott said:

Obama served his 2 terms in office. Trump went after Hillay's job, which he secured from the worst Democratic candidate ever by conducting the dirtiest presidential campaign in US history. And he still didn't win the popular vote.

 

Trump has made his 4 year tenure (no second term for him) "all about Obama" much to the detriment of the real issues facing the US.

 

 

Hillary was the worst candidate ever? Wow, I must be suffering memory loss, I seem to recall her being touted as the most qualified person to ever run for the presidency..... although I agree that she did run a pretty poor campaign.  

 

And winning the popular vote is as relevant as getting the most shots on goal but losing a soccer game. 

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

That's funny. I thought Obama served 2 terms. Maybe it's just because Trump thought and still thinks that Presidents are entitled to 3?

Perhaps. Or perhaps it means that he wanted to prove that anyone could become president, from someone with very limited political experience like Obama to someone with zero political experience like Trump. 

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Hillary was the worst candidate ever? Wow, I must be suffering memory loss, I seem to recall her being touted as the most qualified person to ever run for the presidency..... although I agree that she did run a pretty poor campaign.  

 

And winning the popular vote is as relevant as getting the most shots on goal but losing a soccer game. 

Yes you're suffering memory loss.

 

Winning the popular vote isn't relevant to the result but it does indicate that more people wanted Hillary for president than Trump. Which was my point.

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Hillary was the worst candidate ever? Wow, I must be suffering memory loss, I seem to recall her being touted as the most qualified person to ever run for the presidency..... although I agree that she did run a pretty poor campaign.  

 

And winning the popular vote is as relevant as getting the most shots on goal but losing a soccer game. 

Oh please. 

HRC was a great candidate based on her resume. She was massively qualified. 

That's a fact.

But for some reason she was very much hated personally. 

I never really got the logic of that but that's a fact too.

If she had been just a little bit more likeable it would be her running for reelection now.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Oh please. 

HRC was a great candidate based on her resume. She was massively qualified. 

That's a fact.

But for some reason she was very much hated personally. 

I never really got the logic of that but that's a fact too.

If she had been just a little bit more likeable it would be her running for reelection now.

I think you are 100% correct. Hillary just came across as intensely unlikeable and entitled. She also suffered from comparisons to her husband, who was a masterful politician.

 

It was a case of "my turn-ism". In return for Hillary supporting Obama and not backstabbing him in 2008, he supported her next. To the detriment of his loyal running mate Joe Biden, who was shoved aside.  

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Nice deflection.  

 

How many do you think would have perished under a Hillary Clinton presidency?  Hindsight being 20/20 and all.  Also, given the limitations on presidential power in the Constitution.  

‘Nice deflection’ you say, then drag Hilary Clinton out of her rent free space in your head.

23 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, the President will visit Iowa, North Carolina, Florida, Michigan, and Georgia.   The man is a dynamo.

If Trump loses the fight ,America and the  whole world will be the losers, and you can take that to the bank.

2 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

If Trump loses the fight ,America and the  whole world will be the losers, and you can take that to the bank.

Cognitive dissonance......can't argue with that.

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

If Trump loses the fight ,America and the  whole world will be the losers, and you can take that to the bank.

I don't think any reputable bank will accept the counterfeit notes you have on offer.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't think any reputable bank will accept the counterfeit notes you have on offer.

Hell, I got them from Biden, please reconsider!

Just now, vandeventer said:

Hell, I got them from Biden, please reconsider!

For a joke to work it has to make some kind of sense. Try again.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I don't think any reputable bank will accept the counterfeit notes you have on offer.

Wanna bet? If Trump wins, the stock market will skyrocket. If Biden wins, it will tank. 

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Wanna bet? If Trump wins, the stock market will skyrocket. If Biden wins, it will tank. 

First off, this is exactly what the Romney campaign said about what would happen if Obama won.

Second, like so many Trump supporters you seem to think that a stock market fall is somehow a significant event in the lives of most Americans. As if it's a predictor of economic activity. If it does fall, it would be not because of economic worries, but rather because Trump's tax policies radically lowered the tax on corporations. Which means higher dividends. Remember when we were told that lowering the capital gains tax would encourage greater investment by corporations? It didn't happen. But it did encourage stock buybacks which raised the price of stocks.

Biden is promising to raise back up the capital gains tax. And most economists and financial institutions predict a Biden win would be better for the economy

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And most economists and financial institutions predict a Biden win would be better for the economy

As it has been for every Democratic presidency...

29 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

As it has been for every Democratic presidency...

Democratic Presidents have been bailing out previous Republican Presidents disastrous handling of the economy and ballooning deficit. Biden will have to do the same this time. 

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

If Trump loses the fight ,America and the  whole world will be the losers, and you can take that to the bank.

The banks have enough of Trump’s bad debts, they don’t need anymore of his failing.

14 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, she is. And yes, Trump is too.  Sometimes I think someone should break his thumbs and get him off Twitter for a week or two. But...the difference is that he gets things done. There is nothing in Sen. Harris' background to suggest that she has is anything other than a pure political animal. She has never worked in the private sector.

 

And yes Mike Pence is admirable.  He is moral, steady, well mannered, by all accounts a terrific husband and father, and a calming influence on the chaos that surrounds Trump.  In what way do you think he is not admirable?

 

Other than your alleged wife saying so, there's not a whole lot in fact, or even in your posts, to support your claim regarding Harris.

 

As for Trump getting things done - that's mostly a nonsense comment, but there's this - Harris is not the POTUS. Why would you expect her list of accomplishments, or 'getting things done' to be on par with one?

 

Nothing in Trump background, or present suggest he's not a self-serving ego maniac. See? Can be  played both ways. Politicians being political animals is sort of a given. Working in the private sector is not really a must for being a President.

 

Mike Pence is hyper conservative, dull, and about as much as a 'political animal' as Harris is (would a man of faith and morals such as him attach himself to someone like Trump?). Doesn't seem to bother you there. No major accomplishments that I'm aware of. And flies like him.

14 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, get things done.  Middle east peace. Three years of fab economic growth. Record low unemployment for minorities. Killed noted terrorists al Baghdadi and Sulemani (sp), new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, no new wars, energy independence, bringing US troops home, criminal justice reform, tax reform, good conservative judicial appointments.....

 

There is no Middle East peace other than in Trump supporters minds. Israel signing normalization agreements with several peripheral countries (both geographically and politically) is nice, but not it. Meanwhile, tensions with Iran are high, USA forces still in Syria, Yemen war still on, Iraq asking US to leave, and relations with Turkey rocky as well. Could add other stuff but this shall do for now.

 

Bringing USA troops home? Not so much. Unless mistaken most relevant troops were deployed to other locations around the globe. The overall numbers aren't very impressive relative to Trump's statements.

 

The rest could be argued about as well, but I suspect futile in your case.

14 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Nice deflection.  

 

How many do you think would have perished under a Hillary Clinton presidency?  Hindsight being 20/20 and all.  Also, given the limitations on presidential power in the Constitution.  

 

Hindsight? The President and the administration were informed of the severity of the situation long before it was communicated to the American people. There were things that could have been done to better prepare, better inform and better handle the situation. Trump chose not to. Oh, and politicizing masks...

14 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, President Obama DID pull the trigger on Bin Laden, and good for him for doing it.  Note that Joe Biden was against it. And yes there are still US troops in those locations, but far fewer than before. 

 

I would not call peace deals with three Muslim nations insignificant. The Saudis will be on board soon as well.  Plus, you can forget the Palestinians. They have been cut out of the negotiations, and rightfully so. They had numerous chances to make peace, and failed. Now they have worn out their welcome with the Sunnis and will be on the outside looking in until they smarten up. 

 

I remember the 2011 dinner. It was at that point that Trump started thinking, "I'm coming for your job, Barry". And he got it, taking out the entire DC political class in the process. 

 

 

 

The Saudis may or may not be on board, but so far they are not. So this didn't 'get done'. As for your views regarding the Palestinians, let me just say that they make it quite obvious your grasp on the conflict in question is tenuous, or alternatively, hyper-contrived.

13 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I think you are 100% correct. Hillary just came across as intensely unlikeable and entitled. She also suffered from comparisons to her husband, who was a masterful politician.

 

It was a case of "my turn-ism". In return for Hillary supporting Obama and not backstabbing him in 2008, he supported her next. To the detriment of his loyal running mate Joe Biden, who was shoved aside.  

 

The 'intensely unlikeable' candidate still won more votes than Trump. Before rushing in to dismiss it as being irrelevant, consider 'likeable' and 'popular'. Just saying.

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The banks have enough of Trump’s bad debts, they don’t need anymore of his failing.

 

Exclusive: Tired of Trump, Deutsche Bank games ways to sever ties with the president - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-deutsche-bank/exclusive-tired-of-trump-deutsche-bank-games-ways-to-sever-ties-with-the-president-sources-idUSL1N2HP0UF

 

New York banker: 'No bank would touch' Trump post-presidency

https://theweek.com/speedreads/947338/new-york-banker-no-bank-touch-trump-postpresidency