Congratulations to apparent President-elect Joe Biden !

 

AZ and NV are set, WI is almost done counting and Biden maintains the lead, and Biden's lead in MI is only going to increase since there's still many ballots in Wayne County, which runs about 67% Dem.

 

Finally the nightmare ends. Let the NY AG do her work on the no longer sitting POTUS.

Even Georgia could fall to the developing Biden postal onslaught. Apparently there is a large number of ballots in Atlanta as yet uncounted, and Atlanta is strongly Democrat ...

3 hours ago, Susco said:

 

So in short, popular vote is just a waste of time in the US elections

 

hmm, wouldn't say so,

since all votes are counted on county / state basis it is easy peasy and snap snap to add together the popular vote

and it serves as a constant reminder of paths away from the electoral college

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It's not unusual for U.S. elections to have additional valid votes that remain uncounted on election night for various legitimate reasons.

 

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Suggestions of voter fraud are entirely without merit, so unless you can show some evidence, don't even bother.

Suggestions counting of votes this year is in anyway different from normal years is trolling nonsense.

5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

hmm, wouldn't say so,

since all votes are counted on county / state basis it is easy peasy and snap snap to add together the popular vote

and it serves as a constant reminder of paths away from the electoral college

 

Well, as I said already, in my opinion the person with the highest count of popular votes should be president, especially if he get's more than 50% of all votes casted.

Biden is reported in the NY Times as winning Pennsylvania absentee ballots by "an overwhelming margin so far". If he carries the remaining absentee ballots by a similar margin, he could win Pennsylvania (though he has quite a lot of ground to make up).

The latest highlights from Fox News:

 

Trump -- Donald Trump: 'We were winning everything and all of a sudden, it was just called off'

 

Biden -- Joe Biden: 'We feel good about where we are ... we believe we're on track to win this election'

 

Fox also has Trump talking about appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court:

 

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Trump hints at WH pushing for Supreme Court ruling over disputed ballots

Nov. 04, 2020 - 3:30 - The president claims election victory with many states still undeclared; Lucas Tomlinson reports.

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6207017100001#sp=show-clips

 

 

51 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Interesting that the postal votes - apparently in most states - are SO heavily pro-Biden/pro-Democrat.

 

I guess the Trump kind of voter doesn't travel far from home. Which maybe explains quite a lot!

Very much as predicted though.

Largely down to covid , partly because of Dem voters respecting distancing , partly because Trumpers  sheepishly followed their leader ( postal votes bad , crooked , sperm of Satan blah blah blah).

Therefore Biden expected to have a major edge on postal votes , Trump on walk in voting.

What seems to have confused many of the earlier contributors to this thread is that the walk in votes were largely counted first , hence Trump's position looked stronger than it actually was.

1 minute ago, mfd101 said:

Biden is reported in the NY Times as winning Pennsylvania absentee ballots by "an overwhelming margin so far". If he carries the remaining absentee ballots by a similar margin, he could win Pennsylvania.

 

They better change the locks on the White House front door tonight then

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s good to see, at least some of, our regular Trump supporters posting again.

 

 

Crickets......????

They haven't yet got any precise instructions on how to claim elections are rigged.

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

They better change the locks on the White House front door tonight then

And on the first lady's chastity belt.

As we sleep the two septuagenarians are in their back rooms doing a little nip and tuck.

 

Who will outlive the other is too close to call...... but a photo (re) finish is almost certain,

with the survivor winning by a nose hair..........

2 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

And on the first lady's chastity belt.

No need to. Trump will surely not get a hard on this time (last one in 2016)! ????

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The presidential race is too close to call. Officials are still tallying votes

President Trump and Joseph R. Biden Jr. were locked Wednesday morning in a race for the White House that was too close to call, with election officials in crucial battleground states still counting ballots, many of them sent by mail before the polls closed.
 

Mr. Trump won Florida, Iowa and Ohio. Mr. Biden carried Minnesota. But, as of Wednesday morning, neither candidate had amassed the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency. Both parties were focused on the tallies being conducted in seven key states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
 

No major news organizations have projected a winner in the overall race.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/04/us/election-results?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#the-presidential-race-is-too-close-to-call-officials-are-still-tallying-votes

 

Yahoo finance reports the senate as 47 / 47

 

https://www.yahoo.com/elections/senate

44 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Suggestions counting of votes this year is in anyway different from normal years is trolling nonsense.

 

Usual to stop counting on the night is it?

As expected the walk ins counted first joe is looking better and better imo let’s hope so it’s so obvious that trump is unsuited for the job of potus its waaaayyyy closer than I thought that makes me personally sad and ashamed 

8 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Usual to stop counting on the night is it?

The counting didn't stop, it was a fake article from NY Post, also known for the Biden laptop hoax

 

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Watch-Philadelphia-ballot-count-live-website-15699893.php

 

It's the middle of the night in Philadelphia, and ballots are still being counted live on YouTube

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/04/931136905/we-ll-be-working-24-hours-vote-counting-to-continue-through-the-week

 

Why Vote Counting In Pennsylvania And Michigan Takes So Long

 

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/us-election-results-were-still-counting-says-philadelphia-official-after-counting-stopped-reports/videoshow/79040988.cms

 

US Election results: 'We're still counting', says Philadelphia official after 'counting stopped' reports

9 hours ago, mr mr said:

ok if trump wins.........

 

tough to see how it happened the first time. the 2nd time ? 

 

fool me once shame on.....shame on you. fool me.... you can't get fooled again.

George (#43), welcome to the group!! One of your more memorable "mis-quotes."

11 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

I thought CNN did a good job. No nonsense. Basically Wolf Blitzer and the other guy talking facts about the states and the areas within states etc. 

 I think Trump voters are  wrong but if he wins we have to cop it. 

 

Still a fair chance for Biden - Pennsylvania looks promising in terms of votes to be counted but he's a long way behind. Georgia the same. Michigan looks tough.  Wisconsin looks promising. Arizona appears to be home.

Tough though to see how the pollsters can get it so wrong. The hidden Trump supporters is a thing.

dont worry the don has got this! 4 more years of democrats sulking! som nam na!! shouldnt have lied and cheated and should have accepted the results of the last time donny beat them

3 hours ago, Tug said:

As expected the walk ins counted first joe is looking better and better imo let’s hope so it’s so obvious that trump is unsuited for the job of potus its waaaayyyy closer than I thought that makes me personally sad and ashamed 

be proud! 4 more meaningful years thei the don at the helm!!!

2 minutes ago, honcho said:

dont worry the don has got this! 4 more years of democrats sulking! som nam na!! shouldnt have lied and cheated and should have accepted the results of the last time donny beat them

I hate to break the news to you but your bigly friend is looking the loser.

11 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

I thought CNN did a good job. No nonsense. Basically Wolf Blitzer and the other guy talking facts about the states and the areas within states etc. 

 I think Trump voters are  wrong but if he wins we have to cop it. 

 

Still a fair chance for Biden - Pennsylvania looks promising in terms of votes to be counted but he's a long way behind. Georgia the same. Michigan looks tough.  Wisconsin looks promising. Arizona appears to be home.

Tough though to see how the pollsters can get it so wrong. The hidden Trump supporters is a thing.

I thought CNN did a good job.

No dispute from me about that. They restrained their normal anti Trump mode and did a fair job. I don't remember anything about corona, except noting the exit polls did not put it as number one concern.

 

 I think Trump voters are  wrong but if he wins we have to cop it. 

 I think Biden voters are wrong but if he wins we have to cop it. 

3 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Usual to stop counting on the night is it?

The NZ radio station I listen to reported that counting had stopped as they were tired and had to have a rest.

1 hour ago, honcho said:

dont worry the don has got this! 4 more years of democrats sulking! som nam na!! shouldnt have lied and cheated and should have accepted the results of the last time donny beat them

Went to bed last night and it wasn't looking to good. I thought Michigan may be gone. Now it's looking pretty good as is Nevada. Arizona and Wisconsin appear to be Democrat.

Some democrats may have sulked a bit last night but they didn't cry out about corruption so here's hoping Trump and friends can be the same. Doubt it. Asking for a recount is fine but all the other corruption stuff is  just more malarkey from Trump and friends. 

12 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

should each of the two candidates end up with 50% of the electors,

 

what would be the formal process to follow in order to end up with a president elect and new president?

 

 

 

 

Fisticuffs.

 

12 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

should each of the two candidates end up with 50% of the electors,

 

what would be the formal process to follow in order to end up with a president elect and new president?

 

 

 

I believe it goes to congress. I think Pelosi had something to say on it already.

No guarantee, but looks like this election is headed to the courts.  Nothing wrong with getting another set of eyes on it.

Now 264-214 on Fox News. Biden is nearly sure to win in Nevada +6, it's over.

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

I hate to break the news to you but your bigly friend is looking the loser.

 

to me it looks like Trump agrees with you,

did you hear his son's talk in Philly an hour ago?

 

winners don't speak like that, that was a losers speech in my view

 

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not over yet though, miracles happens, like water -- wine etc