webfact Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Directed radio frequency plausible cause of 'Havana syndrome,' U.S. government report finds Tourists in a vintage car pass by the U.S. Embassy in Havana, Cuba, November 7, 2019. REUTERS/Alexandre Meneghini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - "Directed" radio frequency is the most plausible explanation for mysterious symptoms experienced by diplomats stationed in U.S. embassies in Havana and elsewhere, a U.S. government report said on Saturday. The symptoms appear “to be consistent with the effects of directed, pulsed radio frequency energy,” said the report by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering. Diplomats in some postings have been plagued with nausea, headache, dizziness and other unexplained symptoms. This "Havana syndrome" has long been the subject of intense speculation, given the nature of the symptoms, the location of the postings, and the silence of the US government. Saturday's report marks the first time Washington has officially offered an explanation, although inconclusive. 2020-12-06T190409Z_1_LOV000ME6OCOL_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_USA-DIPLOMATS-HAVANA.MP4 "Directed" radio frequency is the most plausible explanation for mysterious symptoms experienced by diplomats stationed in U.S. embassies in Havana and elsewhere, a U.S. government report. This report produced by Chris Dignam. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in October that "significant U.S. government resources" had been dedicated to solving the mystery, in which more than 40 U.S. government employees were affected between 2016 into 2018. The State Department said in June 2018 that it had brought home diplomats from Guangzhou, China, over concern they were suffering similar symptoms. In addition to directed radio frequency, Saturday's report left open “the possibility of multiple causal factors including psychological and social factors." NBC News and the New York Times first reported the findings of the report. “We are pleased this report is now out and can add to the data and analyses that may help us come to an eventual conclusion as to what transpired,” the New York Times quoted the State Department as saying. (Reporting by Aram Roston; Editing by William Mallard) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-07 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Who's behind it? Russia or China? My money's on China. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Hope they catch the perpetrators next time radars can be directionally located this sounds to me it possibly could be pinpointed in a similar manner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ukrules said: Who's behind it? Russia or China? My money's on China. Nah...I'd bet Russia...China's strategy usually is more espionage or steal secrets related for the purpose of making money or gaining advantage....Russia has a long history of aggressive and dabgerous actions toward foreign diplomats...just to stir the pot if for no other reason than to cause distress and take advantage of any confusion afterwards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBaker Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Having clear view to the building from the street is asking for trouble. Russia, China? How about Burkina Faso? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 I won't make fun of people wearing tin foil hats for protection ever again.... 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dionigi Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 remember big building syndrome, down to psychological factors and this will be shown to be the same despite conspiracy theorists. Most embassies are made so that radio signals cannot get out therefore none will get in except through the antennas on the roof. If this is a real government report I would like to see the evidence, apart from wishful thinking by the people reporting. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Russia for sure. In the 70s They tried using stuff like that to affect some weather, and I believe they would not feel bad about a few Americans getting affected by their efforts. Remember the old crisis in Cuba, and loss of face. Geezer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy from Kent Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Russia for sure. In the 70s They tried using stuff like that to affect some weather, and I believe they would not feel bad about a few Americans getting affected by their efforts. Remember the old crisis in Cuba, and loss of face. Geezer I thought Russia and Russians were open armed towards Yanks.???? Most people are too young to remember an event that happened 50 plus years ago. Time to forget and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 maybe communist Cuba has also been a distant testing ground for the CCP and their Huawei? Chinese communisms idealism&technological growth/development/expansion techniques were all copies of whatever the Soviets had done&dusted decades earlier adinfinitum. Weaponised energy directing via of the likes of 5Gsoon6G were initially a military development... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Mount up, it’s time to invade and teach them a lesson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Emdog said: I won't make fun of people wearing tin foil hats for protection ever again.... what they failed to do was fill the hats with potatoes for easy microwave dinners 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 So what happened to the previous conclusions of medical examinations showed evidence of pesticide poisoning due to inadequate ventilation following fumigation of the building? Yet the development of sonic devices has been around quite while. There is the UK one used commonly around shopping centers to deter young teenagers from "loitering" by emitting an annoying sound only they can hear.The US has developed "weapon" grade devices as well as similar things to the UK. Focussed subliminal sound generators are hardly a technology that only the " bad guys" will have. Small ones designed to deter dogs actually seem to work . My apologies to the Scots but bagpipes do it for me ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 hours ago, tonray said: Nah...I'd bet Russia...China's strategy usually is more espionage or steal secrets related for the purpose of making money or gaining advantage....Russia has a long history of aggressive and dabgerous actions toward foreign diplomats...just to stir the pot if for no other reason than to cause distress and take advantage of any confusion afterwards I believe that microwave can detect conversations by the vibration on windowpanes. Maybe the operators were focusing on vocal cords in these egregious cases?? Just speculation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanadaSam Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 hours ago, tifino said: maybe communist Cuba has also been a distant testing ground for the CCP Cuba is a long time ally of Russia, not China. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 hours ago, ukrules said: Who's behind it? Russia or China? or the antennae on the roof of the embassies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 or perhaps the new crypto gear installed on the embassy rooftop requires calibration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: or perhaps the new crypto gear installed on the embassy rooftop requires calibration. indeed US embassies have more antennae and radio communication than any kind of building and no one likes technical gimmicks and satellite devices than the Americans. They also have a lot of data traffic flowing in and out. It might turn out the US personnel has been the guinea pig for 5G ???? Edited December 8, 2020 by Hi from France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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