No deal on Brexit trade 'very very likely', British PM Johnson says

[Kwasaki]

13 minutes ago, NeoDinosaw said:

you are a very stupid and selfish person. The cost is going to be enormous

Another one who don't understand the English the cost will be enormous to both sides because the EU wouldn't let the UK just go. 

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Another one who don't understand the English the cost will be enormous to both sides because the EU wouldn't let the UK just go. 

Have a look at the pound v the euro exchange rate and see which side the world money markets think is going to get hurt most. 

Course. They are only experts. Who needs them when your average Brexiteer knows more about this stuff than they do.

[Rookiescot]

32 minutes ago, NeoDinosaw said:

37.33% of the electorate vote to leave

37.33% of the electorate were promised we would be staying in the single market upon Brexit.

Do you think for one second Brexit would have won if people had known we would end up leaving with no deal?

[Kwasaki]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Have a look at the pound v the euro exchange rate and see which side the world money markets think is going to get hurt most. 

Course. They are only experts. Who needs them when your average Brexiteer knows more about this stuff than they do.

The pound going down with a no deal being predicted is an obvious event.

 

Was 40 to £ now at 39 to £ , Oh!! dear I wish I had a balcony. ????????

[vinny41]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

37.33% of the electorate were promised we would be staying in the single market upon Brexit.

Do you think for one second Brexit would have won if people had known we would end up leaving with no deal?

28 times  Cameron stated that a vote for leave would mean leaving the EU, leaving the  single market

I don't know of anyone that can predict the outcome of a negotiation before they have entered a negotiation

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

37.33% of the electorate were promised we would be staying in the single market upon Brexit.

Do you think for one second Brexit would have won if people had known we would end up leaving with no deal?

You're losing it again with assuming that people thought that, they voted for OUT again for a second time. 

[Kwasaki]

Just now, vinny41 said:

28 times  Cameron stated that a vote for leave would mean leaving the EU, leaving the  single market

I don't know of anyone that can predict the outcome of a negotiation before they have entered a negotiation

I know it's a lot of remainers posting here. ????

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

The pound going down with a no deal being predicted is an obvious event.

 

Was 40 to £ now at 39 to £ , Oh!! dear I wish I had a balcony. ????????

Where was it the day before the referendum?

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

You're losing it again with assuming that people thought

I with Kwasaki on this one.

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

28 times  Cameron stated that a vote for leave would mean leaving the EU, leaving the  single market

I don't know of anyone that can predict the outcome of a negotiation before they have entered a negotiation

And the remainers listened to Cameron.

Who did the leavers listen too?

[RayC]

1 hour ago, SteveB2 said:

Interesting...

 

"The EU, taken as a whole is the UK's largest trading partner. In 2019, UK exports to the EU were £294 billion (43% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports)"

Ref: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/ 

 

For those who have problems understanding math, this means the EU exports to the UK £120 billion pounds more than it imports.

 

Meaning that if the EU has to reverts to trading with the UK on WTO terms, the UK makes stands to make a massive windfall profit from the import duties caused by the trade imbalance. 

 

No wonder this whole Brexit conundrum is being dragged out as long as possible with futile negotiations - the import duties the EU has saved paying the UK over the last 4 years of trade imbalance easily run into tens of billions of pounds...

Which is a grossly over-simplified version of the economy.

 

At the risk of also over-simplifying issues, the elasticity of demand (and supply) varies from product to product. Put simply, producers will pass on these costs to their consumers where they can. Where they can't, they may well exit the market. Either way, unless a similar product can be found at the original price, the UK consumer suffers, either through increased cost or reduced choice.

[vinny41]

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And the remainers listened to Cameron.

Who did the leavers listen too?

Most leavers I know listened to Cameron and Osbourne, who both stated  that a vote for leave would mean leaving the EU, leaving the  single market

[Kwasaki]

Just now, Rookiescot said:

Where was it the day before the referendum?

I really can't be bothered my opinion a position is clear UK is out with a no deal.

I assume both sides will see what is about to happen later into next year the important thing at the moment is for the world and both sides is getting rid of C19. 

In the new year maybe new deals will be done for businesses for both sides both sides who knows. 

It's wait and see time for me not stupid comments on speculation. 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

Most leavers I know listened to Cameron and Osbourne, who both stated  that a vote for leave would mean leaving the EU, leaving the  single market

So Johnson, Gove, Farage etc were all lying when they said we would be staying in the single market?

 

????

[RichardColeman]

59 minutes ago, NeoDinosaw said:

37.33% of the electorate vote to leave

Maybe, but even less voted to stay !

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I really can't be bothered my opinion a position is clear UK is out with a no deal.

I assume both sides will see what is about to happen later into next year the important thing at the moment is for the world and both sides is getting rid of C19. 

In the new year maybe new deals will be done for businesses for both sides both sides who knows. 

It's wait and see time for me not stupid comments on speculation. 

Yeah you really cant be bothered to face uncomfortable facts more like.

[ivor bigun]

7 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Not famine but I can imagine high unemployment and a greater run on the food banks that are already overwhelmed, even before covid large numbers of children going to school hungry have been reported and yes higher numbers of evictions due to non payment of rent are on the cards.

what a load of rubbish ,half the people using food banks are like someone i know who comes here for holidays on his "disabilaty benifit"  most of the scroungers on the social get far more than my pension . free housing ,no council tax free meds ,and a load of the mothers with kids  and no husband ,have a boyfriend ,kids father ,living in a flat down the road . starving kids? yea right not a lot of those in Britain

[Gwen1234]

7 hours ago, soalbundy said:

democracy or a full stomach and a roof over ones head......it's a difficult decision.

The odd bit a brie missing out of the fridge won't leave my stomach empty. Its about time the farmers of the UK actually farmed their land instead of getting paid for having it.

[Kwasaki]

Just now, Rookiescot said:

Yeah you really cant be bothered to face uncomfortable facts more like.

Think what you like about me I'm not uncomfortable at all thanks. 

I will be happy to stop answering and making post on the future of UK and EU. 

I will look on with some interest to see the outcome of what will happen.

 

[ivor bigun]

2 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

what a load of rubbish ,half the people using food banks are like someone i know who comes here for holidays on his "disabilaty benifit"  most of the scroungers on the social get far more than my pension . free housing ,no council tax free meds ,and a load of the mothers with kids  and no husband ,have a boyfriend ,kids father ,living in a flat down the road . starving kids? yea right not a lot of those in Britain

 

[soalbundy]

Just now, ivor bigun said:

what a load of rubbish ,half the people using food banks are like someone i know who comes here for holidays on his "disabilaty benifit"  most of the scroungers on the social get far more than my pension . free housing ,no council tax free meds ,and a load of the mothers with kids  and no husband ,have a boyfriend ,kids father ,living in a flat down the road . starving kids? yea right not a lot of those in Britain

All those lying journalists, teachers, and council workers trying to fool us no doubt.

[vinny41]

7 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So Johnson, Gove, Farage etc were all lying when they said we would be staying in the single market?

 

????

Farage was never in a position of power to implement any policy regarding staying or leaving the single market

 

[ivor bigun]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

All those lying journalists, teachers, and council workers trying to fool us no doubt.

sorry dont believe half what any of that lot say

[ivor bigun]

1 minute ago, ivor bigun said:

sorry dont believe half what any of that lot say

anyway glad i transferred a load of money when the pound was higher????

 

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, Gwen1234 said:

The odd bit a brie missing out of the fridge won't leave my stomach empty. Its about time the farmers of the UK actually farmed their land instead of getting paid for having it.

The UK was never able to feed its population (in the middle ages perhaps) not even in WW1 and WW2, even a continental country like Germany had its people starving in WW1 because of the British blockade, we are all dependant on one another. Trump with his isolationist MAGA has driven his country downwards.

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

sorry dont believe half what any of that lot say

Of course not, why should you, it's all fake news as Trump would say.

[ivor bigun]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Of course not, why should you, it's all fake news as Trump would say.

at least he got one thing right ,dont believe half of what the likes of fox news ,or the Guardian , or any of the self serving left or right wing newsoutlets say

[earlinclaifornia]

You British seem to have a trump leader who only has his ability to screw this up.

[ivor bigun]

2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You British seem to have a trump leader who only has his ability to screw this up.

Well you have had your fair share of idiot leaders Obhama springs first to mind

[Rookiescot]

14 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Farage was never in a position of power to implement any policy regarding staying or leaving the single market

 

But you Brexiteers hung on his every word regardless.

What about Johnson, Gove and the official leave campaign?