Neo Pattaya: Popular resort undergoes rebrand - focus on "High Quality, High Value, High Spending"

[PEE TEE]

4 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Why they don't drive all these people to Hua Hin?

Plenty of place here and a nice environment for them

 

That's good but occurring to you they will not be spending any on sex then again these people spend most on food . oh wait no they bring it all with them 

 

[sungod]

14 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

However to think that they can suddenly turn it into some kind of high end resort though is nothing but a massive pipe dream.

 

The major hotel chains seem to think differently.

[lovethai123]

8 minutes ago, smedly said:

are they about to revoke the licence of all bars especially soi 6 lol

demolish all bars and build a school

[lovethai123]

4 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

That's good but occurring to you they will not be spending any on sex

too bad for the isaan people then. how are they going to get a new iphone for the grand ma

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

demolish all bars and build a school

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-baby-crying-jnQYWZ0T4mkhCmkzcn

[Lacessit]

24 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

May I take the liberty to point out that the authorities aim to make pattaya free from sex industry and want to portray it as a clean , family friendly city for chinese , koreans , japanese etc. Those people generally take short holidays and spend good amount of money. 

If you really think Chinese, Koreans and Japanese come to Pattaya without the intention of screwing themselves blind, I have a bridge in Sydney I'd like to sell you.

[geisha]

Thai people and especially the TAT and government obviously don’t go on holidays to “ normal” holiday destinations as otherwise they would see why what they offer is a huge failure. Tourists have flocked to Thailand in the past for cheap holidays, winter sunshine and sex. 

[Enoon]

54 minutes ago, scorecard said:

'flange'?

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flange

[Timwin]

Even if they managed to build those malls and resorts it would still be just another dull Asian town, a dime a dozen. The sex trade, the clubs, the parties and the 2-week-millionaire-fantasy ARE the main arguments for Pattaya!  

[lovethai123]

26 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If you really think Chinese, Koreans and Japanese come to Pattaya without the intention of screwing themselves blind, I have a bridge in Sydney I'd like to sell you.

i am sorry, but i never witnesses any koran, chinese etc taking a girl from the pattaya beach or a bar. 

[lovethai123]

26 minutes ago, geisha said:

 Tourists have flocked to Thailand in the past for cheap holidays, winter sunshine and sex. 

agreed. but baht is like 30-29 range. 

[lovethai123]

14 minutes ago, Timwin said:

 The sex trade,

THERE IS NO PROSTITUTION IN THAILAND. 

[brucegoniners]

Hahahahaha. Yeah, they do this about every 2 years. Never works. Get used to it, Pattaya will always be what it is. And we love it that way!

[Nanaplaza666]

And again they are just thinking about themselfs and their other rich friends and not about all the poor families and lower class people or even middle class people and families that the normal tourisme feeds and keeps going . They just want the rich to make them even richer and let the rest go down the drain . Maybe it's just me but the seedy business is where a lot of tourist come to Pattaya for , if they don't want to see this or be there they would have gone somewhere else . Thailand is bigger then only Pattaya , a lot of tourists also visit other cities and islands . And Pattaya has thrived on these tourists that go there specially for what it is for many many years . Why change a winning formula , but just because it's down now and so is everywhere else they don't need to change it it will get back to it's feet when tourisme starts going again , have a little patience . Just make it better and clean the city up (roads pavements little paint left and right) it will get back to it's feet . 

[tomauasia]

All nonsense. Nothing going to change. Do these people actually do any real work other than talk <deleted>.. 

Edited December 12, 2020 by tomauasia

[Natai Beach]

3 hours ago, Sid Vicious said:

This has to be a wind up.

 A total wind up. A clue is “Thaivisa notes that......”
 

 

2 hours ago, GaryAdriaenssens said:

Hahaha.... it's becoming more of a laughing soap opera than ever before. Do these clowns really think this is going to work all of a sudden? Recession and no big income for the next 2 years, at the least. Wake up, simple minds!

Simple minds believe this wind up.
 

Gotcha! Good one.

[lovethai123]

Thais don't like pattaya much.  I feel they don't wanna see the ex wife stripping in walking street clubs. 

[dg1980]

Higher prices and stronger baht keeps the riff-raff out. 
 

With fewer drunken gutter creatures roaming the streets (both Thai and foreign), perhaps the high quality tourists (both Thai and foreign) would feel better about coming...?
 

Is that such a crazy idea?

Edited December 12, 2020 by dg1980

[Cranky]

Can’t wait. Pop out for a Neo-time and Neo-job with a Neo- boy in. Shiny new Neo- time Hotel

[lovethai123]

2 minutes ago, Cranky said:

Can’t wait. Pop out for a Neo-time and Neo-job with a Neo- boy in. Shiny new Neo- time Hotel

Do they just mean new girls? 

[The Now Factor]

I wonder if they bit off more than they can chew b/c it's going to be a herculean task to change people's perception.Good luck Pattaya err Neo Pattaya

[spidermike007]

Way too late for that. About 15 years too late. Earth to Pipat. What planet are you living on? Are you aware of why wealthy tourists AVOID Thailand? Not gonna happen. For so many reasons, besides Covid. They say they want rich tourists. What sacrifices are the ministers willing to make, to get them? Rich tourists like to spend money when they travel. And they cannot do that here, as they do not like getting taken for a ride. Most wealthy people are smart with their money. Thailand could be making a fortune on a 25% luxury tax. Instead of the 100% or more, which discourages most people from buying. How many people do you see in the luxury stores here? They are almost always completely empty. Inane. Beyond inane. Even most super rich Thais do most of their luxury shopping overseas. With the exception of cars. 

Are they addressing critical issues, like the air and water quality, traffic safety, public transportation on the southern islands, rapid rail transport, and the lack of law enforcement? No. Nothing, and I mean less than zero is being done. So, as a result of this gross negligence, they are only able to attract primarily lower to middle income Indian and Chinese tourists. The Western tourists have abandoned Thailand for the most part. A fraction of the number that used to come here, return.

The dreaming continues. These ministries consider Thailand to be the center of the universe. The feeling and delusion of superiority within Thailand and Thai society exists on so many levels. As many of us know, there is not alot of substance to the dreaming. Does the world perceive Thailand as the world's top destination? No. Thailand is not the center of the universe, the quality of service here is not at a top level, and Thailand needs the world, infinitely more than the world needs Thailand. 

Hundreds of billions of dollars, possibly trillions have been invested in tourism infrastructure, properties, land, etc., with the faith and the hope that should anything terrible happen, the government would be there, they would step in and they would do something to assist and to help both Thais and international companies that have invested billions of dollars. Instead what are they getting? Absolutely nothing, sheer timidity and an extreme and pathetic lack of courage and a do nothing attitude.
 
The decision to turn away from Western tourism, and focus almost exclusively on Chinese and Indian tourism was a mistake of historically monumental proportions. The TAT is barely making any effort to lure Westerners. And in my opinion they are the big spenders. I read surveys about the average Chinese tourists, being at the top of the list of big spenders. But, this is average. And the big spending Chinese do not come to Thailand for a many different reasons. The wife wants to buy a luxury handbag. The same Gucci bag that she likes is $3,500 in Singapore, London, New York, Paris, Hong Kong, or Dubai. In Bangkok that bag sells for $9,000.

 

At a five star hotel, this same wealthy Chinese couple want a great bottle of wine. They see a good vintage of Domaine Coche-Dury Monthelie, which would sell for about $500 retail, or at a five star in any of the major cities for $1,000 on a good wine list. The same bottle, if it was available (highly unlikely) in Bangkok, would be 100,000 baht, or more. And if it was available would the hotel have a sommelier who was qualified and fluent enough, to explain the wine, and the various vintages available? I have not found that in the past here. I have been to high end restaurants where they knew nothing about the expensive wines on the list! Nothing! The lack of expertise here is a big factor in discouraging wealthy tourists who come here, from returning ever again.

Most wealthy people tend to be smart with their money. They simply will not pay stupid money for stuff. The ultra rich are different. But, no ultra rich people would even consider Thailand as a destination, unless they had work here. The luxury taxes have been discouraging high end tourism here for decades. It is policy that is so dumb, so shortsighted, so non-visionary, and it badly hurts the economy. If wine duty was 100%, you would have a thriving wine industry here, five to ten times the size of the current industry. So the state income would be made up on volume, and hundreds of thousands of jobs would be generated. Instead the protection of a few local wineries continues, due to some politicians passing the anti import wine bill years ago, and accepting the payoffs that came with that braindead decision. These are simply more examples of brain dead leaders, who have no vision, and are NOT leading the nation forward, are not helping the nation to progress, and are not benefitting the people of Thailand.

Up until around 2010 a small number of rich tourists used to come here. I had two groups of rich friends who came, stayed in beachfront villas, or villas at top five star resorts, and spent ALOT of money. One couple who came with their two kids, I asked how much he was going to spend on his trip, after seeing his wife drop 68,000 baht at the hotel spa, and seeing him drop 22,000 baht on the lunch I was invited to. He said they average $75,000 per vacation, twice or three times a year. Usually 10 days. All first class. He made 12 million pounds sterling, a year in London (representing Russian oligarchs primarily) at his law firm. He said his chief complaint about Thailand, was that other than spas, there was nothing for his wife to spend money on. He said she usually likes to spend $10-15,000 on purses, jewelry, or designer clothing, but the prices were so outrageous here, that even she refused to buy anything.

Neither he, nor my other friends ever returned to Thailand, and that was over 10 years ago. They simply have too many great options, with outstanding service, expertise, and reasonable taxes. That is one of the chief reasons the rich do not come. Sure Thailand gets a modest number. But, a tiny pinhead of the world's wealthy tourists choose Thailand, for a dozen good reasons. 

 

Major changes need to be made, if Thailand wants to continue to enjoy the cash cow of tourism. Travelers these days simply have too many choices. Creativity is required. Progress needs to be made. Thailand cannot continue to be one of the least progressive nations on earth, and expect foreigners to tolerate that degree of ignorance. These seeds were planted over a decade ago. The hapless army has accelerated the process dramatically.

 

Quantity over quality is never a good thing, unless you are selling one dollar items at a swap meet. It just lowers the quality of the experience for all.

 

 

[Mike k]

The Dog and pony shows the govt puts on are animal shows 

[Ty Hareways]

Just a plain ???? will suffice here.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, lovethai123 said:

i am sorry, but i never witnesses any koran, chinese etc taking a girl from the pattaya beach or a bar. 

You are there 24/7 to observe?

[RawboneFunksta]

Lots of middle class Thais visit Pattaya but tend to avoid sleazy areas. A more realistic plan would be too just remove the sleazier, dirtier parts of the city. 

[bluesofa]

5 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Sounds a bit Goldeneye .. but will Janus be waiting to greet them ..

I've heard of him before. Hugh Janus.

[lovethai123]

25 minutes ago, RawboneFunksta said:

Lots of middle class Thais visit Pattaya but tend to avoid sleazy areas. A more realistic plan would be too just remove the sleazier, dirtier parts of the city. 

Which one are those? and where would the lonely men stay then? 

[Expat Tom]

The best days of Pattaya have come and gone. What fools these people be. Change the name and put lipstick and perfume on it....I will forever be Pattaya. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Thai mentality says that, "if we have lost business or not rented or sold it, let's jack up the price to make up for the losses"? What business school or alternative reality did that one come from? 

[Nout]

12 hours ago, keith101 said:

And more than likely higher prices to compensate for all the losses during the pandemic , so i wish you luck as the word will soon get around that Pattaya is no longer the cheap holiday it used to be especially if the beer bars etc will no longer be around for what a lot of men go there for .

There will be other SEA countries that will very happy to take its place .

40 baht for a bottle of beer, 99 baht for an British breakfast, 30 baht for thai food, 10 baht for a bus ride....free sunsets? The important action might move off the front but will move to SB etc