Road accidents claim 67 lives during long weekend

[Histavia]

23 hours ago, fangless said:

I don't believe anyone knows as they only appear to record deaths at the scene of the accidents and not subsequent hospital/en route deaths.

In the short term they only record deaths at the scene (obviously) - when yearly road deaths are recorded there is no limit on the time after the crash.

[KhunBENQ]

On 12/14/2020 at 3:30 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Wow have to give it to the Thai's, the reduction to only 16.75 Deaths per day over the Holiday weekend sounds to me like a major decrease

The numbers are garbage.

Look at this thread:

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1196877-thailand-road-carnage-ninety-four-reported-dead-on-monday-nearly-a-million-injured-this-year

 

67 on four days and 94 on Monday?

Plausibility check seems unknown.

 

[fangless]

38 minutes ago, Histavia said:

In the short term they only record deaths at the scene (obviously) - when yearly road deaths are recorded there is no limit on the time after the crash.

You are correct "there is no limit on the time after the crash" but they never update the daily road casualty figures after the daily release. 

They only ever quote deaths recorded at the scene.

 

eg;" So far this June 423 have died at the scenes of traffic incidents. It is unknown how many more later died of their injuries. The death toll is believed to be much higher than these figures suggest with even government leaders accepting it surpasses 20,000 per year."

 

Thai road deaths surpass 6,000 for year to date | The Thaiger

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by fangless
Link example provided

[Bobydog]

So with the number of motorcycle fatalities over this long weekend, did we get a breakdown of who i.e Farangs v Thai and with or without helments. 

[fangless]

21 minutes ago, Bobydog said:

So with the number of motorcycle fatalities over this long weekend, did we get a breakdown of who i.e Farangs v Thai and with or without helments. 

What would those figures prove? 

The nationality of the victim(s) has no bearing on the nationality of the person causing the accident or whether the person causing the accident was wearing a helmet or not!

[metisdead]

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[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, NE1 said:

I think the rule of thumb here is , no matter who is at fault the living have to pay compensation to the dead person's family.

That's interesting, does anyone know, or know of any Farang who has had to pay compensation to a Thai who he was involved with in a road fatality in which he was 100% innocent?

[geisha]

60 deaths from Covid,  67 on one weekend. They should keep Thailand in a permanent lockdown to save lives. Tragic ! 

[NanLaew]

22 hours ago, Henryford said:

Hard to believe the fuss they make over 60 Covid deaths yet are happy to accept thousands of road deaths as normal.

 

AFAIK, there's been little "fuss" about the Covid deaths.

 

From the Thai people I mean.

 

In both instances, most all of the noise is coming from farangs.

[NanLaew]

17 hours ago, possum1931 said:

That's interesting, does anyone know, or know of any Farang who has had to pay compensation to a Thai who he was involved with in a road fatality in which he was 100% innocent?

 

Yes. But she'll never admit it.

[Histavia]

On 12/15/2020 at 8:57 AM, fangless said:

You are correct "there is no limit on the time after the crash" but they never update the daily road casualty figures after the daily release. 

They only ever quote deaths recorded at the scene.

 

eg;" So far this June 423 have died at the scenes of traffic incidents. It is unknown how many more later died of their injuries. The death toll is believed to be much higher than these figures suggest with even government leaders accepting it surpasses 20,000 per year."

 

Thai road deaths surpass 6,000 for year to date | The Thaiger

 

 

 

It looks like you're  not in full possession of the facts as regards who and how stats are gathered collated and analysed for Thailand. You need to find out who "They" is ......the police are not the main source of stats .... they are gathered from many other sources - insurance, hospitals and local government. Outside Thailand WHO has a huge stat department that attempts to make sense of the stats offered by countries all over the world.

The fact is that Thailand does not have a good or complete system for gathering road safety information, and that is the foundation of tackling the problem, one needs to understand every inch of evy crash that takes place. Thailand simply doesn't do this.

 

For example - The main areas of personal injury that are the standard for road crash analysis are 1 - minor injury, 2 serious injury, 3 - Fatalities. This has been carried out for decades in most countries but Thailand only has a few spasmodic attempts at this.

you also find that reports on crashes only concern themselves with DEATHS per 100k - if you just take a cursory glance at the WHO annual reports, you'll see that there are several other criteria for assessing road safety around the world and under many of these headings the figures from Thailand just don't exist.

The Thai police are neither trained nor equipped to analyse a road accident. If you don't know what happened, then you can't plan a change.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Histavia

[metisdead]

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[fangless]

1 hour ago, Histavia said:

Thailand simply doesn't do this.

That is what I said so why say I am not in full possession etc?

 

1 hour ago, Histavia said:

It looks like you're  not in full possession of the facts as regards who and how stats are gathered collated and analysed for Thailand.

 

[Truth Will Set You Free]

Hey Westerns, drop this subject, “Thai Lives Do another Matter “ Why are wasting good air and time complaining  when NO, TH, ING, nothing but nothing going to change. ????????????????

[Histavia]

On 12/17/2020 at 12:51 AM, fangless said:

That is what I said so why say I am not in full possession etc?

 

Ha-ha! I have no idea - you need to fread up more  about the topic I guess?