nauseus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, welovesundaysatspace said: It has. As you correctly remember, there wasn’t even enough evidence for the courts to have a trial: Stronger refutal is hardly possible. Certainly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, nauseus said: I have been wondering, I must admit. You can stop wondering as they have been decided, all dismissed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nauseus said: Nothing has gone to trial. You're just not listening. Because judges across the country found Trump's attorneys and the like never presented any credible evidence or proof of actual fraud/errors/wrongdoing (which was of course confirmed by the various post-election recounts). No proof, no evidence, nothing to be tried. End of story. No interference by the U.S. Supreme Court. End of Trump's pathetic presidency. Edited December 15, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 I could care less who wins this election. But - voting machines are not transparent, and elections need to be completely transparent. You do not have transparency when a collection of propriety hardware and software are used in the election process. Voting machines need to be 100% open-source and universally auditable as well as secure. If they can't meet that criteria, then it's time to ditch voting machines and go back to paper ballots and manual counting. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, connda said: I could care less who wins this election. But - voting machines are not transparent, and elections need to be completely transparent. You do not have transparency when a collection of propriety hardware and software are used in the election process. Voting machines need to be 100% open-source and universally auditable as well as secure. If they can't meet that criteria, then it's time to ditch voting machines and go back to paper ballots and manual counting. Curiously, according to the article posted earlier in this thread, the few remaining U.S. states that don't have paper-trail voting technology mostly happen to be Republican states who voted for Trump, with the largest offender of not having paper-trail voting being TEXAS! Edited December 15, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zhounan Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 What if they are not conspiracy theories? ???????? I have no certainty, but many many doubts. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, zhounan said: What if they are not conspiracy theories? ???????? I have no certainty, but many many doubts. If you day you have evidence and fail 60 times, yet still believe it then safe to say conspiracy theory. After 60 failures all doubt should be gone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sujo said: If you day you have evidence and fail 60 times, yet still believe it then safe to say conspiracy theory. After 60 failures all doubt should be gone. True. Totally agree with you, but there is a giant doubt in my mind: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama????? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, zhounan said: True. Totally agree with you, but there is a giant doubt in my mind: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama????? Actually Biden got more votes than any candidates in history. Just show how much more voters want Trump out of the office. He is simply a repulsive, obnoxious, corrupt and uneducated person that lacks leadership, statesmanship, decency and morality that voters turned up in droves to vote him out of office. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, zhounan said: True. Totally agree with you, but there is a giant doubt in my mind: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama????? I would be more worried about how Trump got as many votes as he did. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 54 minutes ago, nauseus said: Nothing has gone to trial. You're just not listening. Not proceeded to a trial because not even an indication of verifiable evidence was offered. Courts/Judges are privy to supporting evidence as a basis of accepting a case. Here-say and vexatious applications don't make it ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seth1a2a Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, zhounan said: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama? 3 hours ago, stevenl said: I would be more worried about how Trump got as many votes as he did. Because there were 28.6 million more voters in this election than in 2012..... and believe it or not this election only accounted for roughly 66.7% of all registered voters in America. The margin could have been a lot higher. If everyone voted, Biden would have easily broken the 100 million mark and Tromp might have gotten 90, million Plus the population is higher and more eligible voters reached the legal age to vote in the last 8 years. 2020 66.7% of all possible voters total votes 155,485,614 Biden 81,268,867 Trump 74,216,747 2012 54.9% of all possible voters total votes 126,849,339 Obama 65915795 Romney 60933544 28,636,275 million more voters cast their ballots . Edited December 15, 2020 by Seth1a2a 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, nauseus said: Probably not so safe to say that in Alabama. That about sums up the president and his cult members. Say or do something they don't agree with, and it's met with violence. Trump. The great divider. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Seth1a2a said: Because there were 28.6 million more voters in this election than in 2012..... and believe it or not this election only accounted for roughly 66.7% of all registered voters in America. The margin could have been a lot higher. If everyone voted Biden would have easily broken the 100 million mark. Plus the population is higher and more eligible voters reached the legal age to vote in the last 8 years. 2020 66.7% of all possible voters total votes 155,485,614 Biden 81,268,867 Trump 74,216,747 2012 54.9% of all possible voters total votes 126,849,339 Obama 65915795 Romney 60933544 28,636,275 million more voters cast their ballots Thanks, my comment referred more to the quality of the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1a2a Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, stevenl said: Thanks, my comment referred more to the quality of the voters. He provides their hate with shelter, blankets and warm milk... Before he showed up they were out in the cold. The reason they are fighting this thing so hard is because they don't have anywhere else to go. More than 80 million followers on twitter eating out of his hand like pigeons in a park. No self respect, no self reliance, just blind allegiance. . Edited December 15, 2020 by Seth1a2a 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomauasia Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 There all in it together 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, tomauasia said: There all in it together Not really. I'm not a Democrat. But don't see the level of lies and bs coming from them that I see from the GOP. No comparison. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, nauseus said: Nothing has gone to trial. You're just not listening. To have a full blown trial there has to be evidence. The evidence has to be submitted to the court, and the prosecution, those alleging the offence, have to prove - by the evidence, that the allegations are true. They are unable to provide any evidence (uncorroborated affidavits are not sufficient), without evidence there can be no trial; that is why these allegations are being so regularly and inevitably dismissed by the courts. Sorry, but you are the one not listening! Edited December 15, 2020 by herfiehandbag 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, nauseus said: Probably not so safe to say that in Alabama. Not a place renowned for tolerance: of free speech, political opinions or racial diversity - or anything much else for that matter! I've been there - briefly. My overwhelming impression was that this is what happens after 7 generations marry their cousins! Edited December 15, 2020 by herfiehandbag 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Reported post and Troll response removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, tomauasia said: There all in it together Who are all in what together? Are you referring to Biden, the electoral system, and the courts, affirming democracy, or Trump, Kushner, Barr and Giuliani, trying to tear it down? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Did trump end up attending his own xmas party or did he spend the nite sulking in his room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kelsall Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, zhounan said: True. Totally agree with you, but there is a giant doubt in my mind: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama????? Especially when his rallies were so poorly attended. 1 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Kelsall said: 3 hours ago, zhounan said: True. Totally agree with you, but there is a giant doubt in my mind: how could Mr.Biden get over 10 million more votes than Mr.Obama????? Especially when his rallies were so poorly attended. Let's try this one more time: People didn't vote FOR Joe, they voted AGAINST 45. Joe won. 45 lost. Get over it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kelsall said: Especially when his rallies were so poorly attended. Well, it's clear that the mascot of Trump supporters should be the lemming. Whereas Biden supporters were as reluctant to attend superspreader events as Biden was to host them. Edited December 15, 2020 by placeholder 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Not a place renowned for tolerance: of free speech, political opinions or racial diversity - or anything much else for that matter! I've been there - briefly. My overwhelming impression was that this is what happens after 7 generations marry their cousins! Quite a rapid judgement for someone who was there for such a short time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: To have a full blown trial there has to be evidence. The evidence has to be submitted to the court, and the prosecution, those alleging the offence, have to prove - by the evidence, that the allegations are true. They are unable to provide any evidence (uncorroborated affidavits are not sufficient), without evidence there can be no trial; that is why these allegations are being so regularly and inevitably dismissed by the courts. Sorry, but you are the one not listening! I'm listening to everything I can. But look at this headline for instance: if there are indeed conspiracies, why should anyone care if it hurts a single company? Is the potential damage to the USA not far more important? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Muton Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: I'm listening to everything I can. But look at this headline for instance: if there are indeed conspiracies, why should anyone care if it hurts a single company? Is the potential damage to the USA not far more important? Rather than vexing yourself over the potential damage to the USA that some non existent conspiracy could cause, if you cared one iota for the USA you would be deeply concerned by the real damage and division that 45's lies are creating. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Dye Samurai Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Credo said: What's even more amazing is that it is a county that Trump won! Well that is the game right....dont look at the substance....just look at the sensational title of the article and make up your mind from that...the fact that the Country in question, Trump actually won, that doesnt help the "Trump Got Screwed" narrative, does it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blue Muton said: Rather than vexing yourself over the potential damage to the USA that some non existent conspiracy could cause, if you cared one iota for the USA you would be deeply concerned by the real damage and division that 45's lies are creating. Well I am concerned about possible damage from any conspiracy, as I said. But my point is that this company seems to be more concerned about itself than its client. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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