snoop1130 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 No post-Brexit chaos if customs paperwork done properly, says Calais port chief By Noemie Olive CALAIS, France (Reuters) - Calais, France’s busiest road freight port, is ready for the return of customs formalities on trade moving between Britain and the European Union and will avoid chaotic queues of trucks if businesses follow procedures, its chief executive said. Britain formally transitions out of the EU’s customs union and single market at 2300 GMT on Dec 31, after which companies will have to complete customs declarations whether there is a post-Brexit trade deal or not. Businesses shifting goods between Britain and the world’s largest trading bloc have warned of major disruption to just-in-time supply chains. “Brexit is not synonymous with chaos. Brexit is not synonymous with a snarling up of traffic,” Calais port chief Jean-Marc Puissesseau told Reuters. “If customs declarations are done as they should be, ahead of time, I don’t see a problem.” Calais-Dover is the shortest sea route between Britain and the EU - just 23 miles (37 km) - and Calais handles some 2 million trucks per year. The port has invested 6 million euros in infrastructure to restore a hard border. French customs officials acknowledge they have no idea how many companies from Portugal in Europe’s west to Romania and Poland in the east will be prepared to confront the wall of bureaucracy to move across the new hard border. France’s National Federation of Road Hauliers (FNTR) said delays would mean additional costs that eat into tight margins. Some logistics companies were trying to negotiate protection against delays caused by border holdups in contracts, it said. “We’ll be at the centre of problems that arise in the first weeks,” said Isabelle Maitre, employed by the FNTR, which represents transport companies, in Brussels. “When trucks are on the move, it’s a sign the economy is functioning.” Puissesseau’s remarks that “Calais is ready” came even as queued trucks snaked along the port’s access road, with British companies rushing to stockpile. The tailbacks happened because ferry operators had removed two vessels from operations because of a pandemic-induced fall in tourist passengers. That reduced truck capacity, he said. There were longer tailbacks at the nearby Eurotunnel terminal. A Reuters photographer saw migrants attempting to board lorries destined for Britain. Dover, Europe’s busiest trucking port, expects some disruption on Dec. 31 and is already seeing almost record volumes as companies rush to stockpile, its chief executive said on Thursday. The maritime route across the narrow Strait of Dover has been one of Britain’s main arteries for European trade since the Middle Ages. A 700 million euro expansion of the port of Calais is due to be completed early next year. “Today, we’re suffering from two viruses: Brexit and the coronavirus,” Puissesseau said. “Next year we convalesce. We learn how Brexit works, and the virus will hopefully be behind us. And in 2022, the tourists return. “I’m not pessimistic about the future.” -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 Getting down to the bits where Bojo, Gove, and Farangatang forgot to mention in the take back control speeches although our lorries can drive around the M25 as much as they like ???? 3 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: if businesses follow procedures 555 Business isn't even properly informed about procedures - less than 2 weeks before they should do everything according to yet to be published rules. What could possibly go wrong? 5 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". 4 1 4 2
Popular Post Bruntoid Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". Did the French initiate the carnage or the Brits ? Still its odd then that the U.K. truckers are blaming the U.K. government for the expected chaos - unless of course you know more about their own industry than they do ? 8
Popular Post Loiner Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The tailbacks happened because ferry operators had removed two vessels from operations because of a pandemic-induced fall in tourist passengers. That reduced truck capacity, he said. It's usually something else rather than Brexit, but Remainer MSM always spins the story. Good to hear the Calais port master being ready and positive. Unlike UK Remainer hauliers constant whinging, he's been preparing for some time now, knowing that there will be changes. 4 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". It’s always somebody else’s fault. 7 1 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Loiner said: It's usually something else rather than Brexit, but Remainer MSM always spins the story. Good to hear the Calais port master being ready and positive. Unlike UK Remainer hauliers constant whinging, he's been preparing for some time now, knowing that there will be changes. ‘Remainer MSM’ But of course. 1 1 2
Popular Post evadgib Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s always somebody else’s fault. Isn't it time you thought of something original instead of pedaling this ol' chestnut more often than Bomber did re the fat bloke in ???????? rig? 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, evadgib said: Isn't it time you thought of something original instead of pedaling this ol' chestnut more often than Bomber did re the fat bloke in ???????? rig? Isn’t it about time Brexiteers stoped blaming others for the failings of their own Brexit 5 2 1
Popular Post Bruntoid Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Loiner said: It's usually something else rather than Brexit, but Remainer MSM always spins the story. Good to hear the Calais port master being ready and positive. Unlike UK Remainer hauliers constant whinging, he's been preparing for some time now, knowing that there will be changes. Is that ALL hauliers ? So you know each and every haulier boss and the thousands maybe millions involved in their chains are all remainers ? So leave hauliers to one side - are the other industry heads all aware of the brexit calamity remainers ? Wait wait there’s a pattern developing - it would appear EVERY major industry boss ,who you would think know a thing or two about their industry having reached the top, opposes brexit - it’s almost like they’re more knowledgable than gullible Sun readers. Can you believe that ?! 5 1
evadgib Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Isn’t it about time Brexiteers stoped blaming others for the failings of their own Brexit Care to point out where anyone had? 1 1 1
Popular Post Loiner Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bruntoid said: Is that ALL hauliers ? So you know each and every haulier boss and the thousands maybe millions involved in their chains are all remainers ? So leave hauliers to one side - are the other industry heads all aware of the brexit calamity remainers ? Wait wait there’s a pattern developing - it would appear EVERY major industry boss ,who you would think know a thing or two about their industry having reached the top, opposes brexit - it’s almost like they’re more knowledgable than gullible Sun readers. Can you believe that ?! Up to you how many hauliers are constantly winging. You seem to listen to them. I'm not interested and don't care about their moans. Not interested in big business bosses moans either. Like all Remainers, I believe that they only have their own interests at heart. There will be new rules from next month so they had better get used to it and change their ways. What will you moan about when its a done No Deal? 4 2 1
Popular Post puipuitom Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2020 20 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". The Chaos is on the other side = UK. 2 1
Opl Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 20 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". never forget to blame the French, it's cheap and easy..available to anyone whatever the cause for more information "I don’t think many people can comprehend the carnage which is about to ensue" (hortidaily.com) 2 1
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Bruntoid said: So leave hauliers to one side - are the other industry heads all aware of the brexit calamity remainers ? Unilever picks London as its home over Rotterdam Anglo-Dutch conglomerate denies U-turn after finally choosing the UK capital over Dutch city as its HQ https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam Unilever, you may have heard of them, they make Dove shampoo, Marmite, Colman's mustard, Hellmans mayo, Walls ice-cream, Magnum, Domestos, Sunlight, Axe/Lynx underarm sprays Ben and Jerrys, etc etc have chosen to base themselves in postBrexit Britain rather than Rotterdam inside the EU. Maybe their drivers and hauliers thought differently? Who cares what the delivery crew thought, end of the day big companies base themselves in the best place for business. And this end result is one of the worlds biggest companies just dumped the EU like a hot potato and based themselves in lovely Britain, a country that is about to be back in control. Wonderful. 4
Sujo Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 21 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". its frances fault the uk doesnt follow frances customs laws? 1 1 1
dunroaming Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 22 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". And yet it is a "Frenchie" saying that there is no problem at Calais, if everyone has the correct paperwork. Possibly correct as many of the transport companies are looking at alternatives routes to Calais. Of course there will be an extra cost to that. 2
vinny41 Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Victornoir said: They wanted to regain their sovereignty but now find themselves hostages to the goodwill of the French, Belgians and Dutch for their vital supplies. The old story of the watered sprinkler that's starting to cost me dearly in popcorn. Dear English friends, you must now learn to ask and ask again, without forgetting to politely add please to each request. I write English conscientiously because without doubt the other nations that make up UK will want quikly to free themselves from the Westminster mafia and its unelected bureaucrats. And then you woke up and found that you were dreaming 1 2
dunroaming Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Victornoir said: They wanted to regain their sovereignty but now find themselves hostages to the goodwill of the French, Belgians and Dutch for their vital supplies. The old story of the watered sprinkler that's starting to cost me dearly in popcorn. Dear English friends, you must now learn to ask and ask again, without forgetting to politely add please to each request. I write English conscientiously because without doubt the other nations that make up UK will want quikly to free themselves from the Westminster mafia and its unelected bureaucrats. I don't think anyone thinks that Brexit has been a success on any level but it is done now and the Brits are a resilient lot and will come back from this fiasco stronger in the long run. 2
Mavideol Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 23 hours ago, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". why always blaming somebody else... the UK is an island with no land border with anybody, how can they not see that they need somebody to let them thru their borders to allow the UK access to any place in Europe, an island for God's sake, don't cut off your nose to spike your face 1
Mavideol Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, puipuitom said: The Chaos is on the other side = UK. I didn't see any long waiting line on the French side, these Brexiters must have their eyesight checked up or their geopositioning updated/checked Edited December 19, 2020 by Mavideol 1
Mavideol Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, dunroaming said: I don't think anyone thinks that Brexit has been a success on any level but it is done now and the Brits are a resilient lot and will come back from this fiasco stronger in the long run. wishful thinking .... time will tell 1
dunroaming Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mavideol said: wishful thinking .... time will tell Yes time will tell.
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2020 Message to UK remainers-stop moaning and support your country. 1 6
Popular Post evadgib Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Thingamabob said: Message to UK remainers-stop moaning and support your country. They'll be Rejoiners from 01 Jan 4
Loiner Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, evadgib said: They'll be Rejoiners from 01 Jan Suppose they’ll have to be something, as Brexit will be well and truly done. Remaining will be not only a thing of the past, but an impossibility. We know they won’t stop moaning but their monika reflecting that is not allowed on TVF. Rejoining is so unsupported by even the most stupid of them that its a non starter really. Any of them able to suggest what they will they be referring to themselves as from 2021? What does the Grauniad think it will be? 1
Sujo Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Thingamabob said: Message to UK remainers-stop moaning and support your country. Its not their choice. They have to accept what eu says.
evadgib Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Suppose they’ll have to be something, as Brexit will be well and truly done. Remaining will be not only a thing of the past, but an impossibility. We know they won’t stop moaning but their monika reflecting that is not allowed on TVF. Rejoining is so unsupported by even the most stupid of them that its a non starter really. Any of them able to suggest what they will they be referring to themselves as from 2021? What does the Grauniad think it will be? ...the irony being that we will then be expected to toe-the-line re 'losers (????) consent' ????
Popular Post puipuitom Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 12:47 PM, JonnyF said: The French will make sure there are plenty of problems, even if there aren't any. Macron will make sure of that. Can't have leaving the EU look easy. The whole thing would crumble. Like any mafia, there must be consequences to leaving. Expect blockades, go slows, extra checks from our "friends and partners". Simple: WTO "third country" treatment, as the British could know decades ago. Even 4 years ago replaced by the AGS export system Just a little change in the Sagitta/AGS customs system: remove UK from "EU" and place them at the "third country" ranks. Simple change, split second work. For the British.. a LOT of manual work as close-to-nothing ready yet. And therefore huge queues at Dover in and out. Personalizing Your Sagitta (Non-Online) System for SagittaeForms (vertafore.com) 2 1 1
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