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Thailand reports 427 new COVID-19 cases


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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

The point at which generalized lockdown becomes necessary is when trace/track/treat  no longer works, and that in turn is signalled by finding an increasing number of cases which cannot be explained/traced back to a known infection point.

 

At present it seems almost all cases can be traced back to the market in Samut Sokhon, and efforts are underway to trace and test everyone who went to that market and other contacts of all known positive cases. Fingers crossed this proved sufficient.

You could use that logic to state the same for a market in Wuhan, which also had a Government that tried to hide what was going on and spread mis-information. But Sheryl, you are wrong as Samut Sakon is obviously not the source of this infection, it is unfortunately just that to the Thai people it is a perfectly acceptable reason for which a more humane society would ask the right questions rather than trying to blame some migrant workers. It is certainly a sad, sad state of affairs when a Government adopts such a hostile, toxic approach to a problem and continues to endorse racist and xenophobic attitudes. If this is Thailand's' enduring legacy from Covid 19 then you have to seriously consider their right to be included in the world of tomorrow. Perhaps they should lock themselves and their borders away from the rest of the world, not for Covid, but for their lack of humanity and understanding, and not for just now, but until they are mature enough to actually join more decent societies.

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6 hours ago, jackdd said:

Why are "migrant workers" separated in the Thai government's statistics?

Why not? They are neither Thai nor tourists. They are an identifiable social group of different nationalities, united by one factor, their work and immigration status. Singapore and other countries has also identified migrant workers as being susceptible to covid and other illnesses due to circumstances. Since when is stating a factual truth racist? Some people seem to seek offense where there is no offense often with the purpose of denigrating the Thai people.

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6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I cannot help but think that a large number of migrants having the virus does not reflect the small number of thais having it. These people eat, go 7/11. go markets and everywhere else. If large numbers of them have it, then I suspect more Thais have it than are being revealed

I do not follow: who goes to these places?

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15 minutes ago, Nout said:

Why not? They are neither Thai nor tourists. They are an identifiable social group of different nationalities, united by one factor, their work and immigration status. Singapore and other countries has also identified migrant workers as being susceptible to covid and other illnesses due to circumstances. Since when is stating a factual truth racist? Some people seem to seek offense where there is no offense often with the purpose of denigrating the Thai people.

an extremely naive view. You could just call it the market outbreak instead of constantly saying, local cases linked to the migrant outbreak etc. Maybe its TVF arranging the translations for click-bait and their own purposes, or maybe its Government propaganda and blame laying, so when it is all over the country its not their fault, or maybe, just maybe its pampering to the audience at their level? You can say that there is a certain correctness to breaking down figures into purely demographic areas, as Singapore has done, but there's more to it than that in Thailand.

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2 hours ago, rabas said:

Understandable but starting after the national spreading holidays misses the point of a lockdown. Thailand's best future tourist draw may be touting the country that kept covid out. Blow the holidays and you may loose that.

Yes that's the conundrum...thankfully Thailand is blessed in having such wise and able leaders to make these decisions on out behalf.

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3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

I will hazard a guess and say that if they do not lockdown now it will be completely out of control after the holibobs. 

 

Let's see what happens. 

And happy holibobs to you too!

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1 hour ago, RickBradford said:

Plus, the PCR test is notoriously unreliable, and in some places has been shown to create infection clusters where none exist, as recently happened at Cambridge University in the UK.

 

A total of 30 students tested positive out of about 9000, they were sent for retest, and all were subsequently found to be negative. 

On retest, PCR has a 1 in 1000 chance of a false positive or better. Looks like the Cambridge test is already 1 in 300 on the first test so 1/10000 for retest.

 

This is known everywhere, which is why they retest.

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55 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

For example, South Korea, the country which has done perhaps the most rigorous nationwide testing for Covid, reports a prevalence in the community of about 1 in 1000.

Maybe they are astute enough to take the false positive rate into account when reporting this data.

Given your suggested data, I would assume that they reported  this figure because they actually found 6 per thousand positives.  

 

Crazy I know, but it is just this type of clever stuff that us numerate types get paid mega-bucks to do.

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