UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[7by7]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

If it is to important for you to have control of domain name extensions you can have them all. We are now controlling the important things to our country as and when we like, free from EU petty mindedness and vindictiveness.

 

Yet again I find myself asking you for some examples.

 

Even though, yet again, I know that you cannot provide any.

[Histavia]

6 hours ago, transam said:

I think you are getting a bit confused, it was the Germans & Co. that didn't learn their lesson, us Brits and others had to come to others aid in Europe. Wars the UK never started. Please take your blinkers off, there's a good chap...

QED - someone who neither knows nor understands history.......

[Loiner]

47 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Indeed, the clue is in the name!

 

As they're whole reason for existence is to leave the EU, why are they so desperate to keep their EU domain?

 

 

Another example of Brexiteers wanting to leave the club but still enjoy all the benefits of membership for nothing!

 

Are you sure they really desperate to keep the domain name? It appears to have been seized by EU forces at the moment anyway. What would be the tangible 'benefit' of an extension .eu that anyone could enjoy? The EU definition of enjoy is pretty dubious in most circumstances. 

[Loiner]

51 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Your usual response to everything which damages the UK.

 

Yet you call yourself a patriot!

No damage to the UK at all. Are you an EU patriot who would like to fight over an .eu domain extension? Well knock yourself out pal, cos it's not important at all.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Everyone of them.

Are you sure you can read properly? None of them mention Leaving the EU.

 

A few highlight that the source of the migrants is the EU.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 I am prepared to bet that I know far more about my country's history than you do. Including the not so nice bits!

 

Unlike you, though, I don't refer back to one aspect of it whenever I've lost the argument!

 

Another pomposity post. Expected of course.

[nauseus]

44 minutes ago, Histavia said:

QED - someone who neither knows nor understands history.......

 

Good old QED. AWOL for a while but missed not.

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Yet again I find myself asking you for some examples.

 

Even though, yet again, I know that you cannot provide any.

Has it not occurred to you that people can't be bothered to answer your questions /provide examples because you ignore the answers then ask the same thing a couple of weeks later?

I got tired of this along time ago. 

 

And please don't ask me for some examples of this behaviour...????

 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Histavia said:

QED - someone who neither knows nor understands history.......

Isn't it strange that the remain click keep telling folk they know nothing. Can you stick to the topic please.

Thank you....

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, transam said:

We all know you know more than any of us, you do not need to remind us.....????

Very true, I'll agree with you for once. I do think the reminders are a good idea though.

[Surelynot]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Isn't it strange that the remain click keep telling folk they know nothing. Can you stick to the topic please.

Thank you....

Clique

[Old Dissenter]

On 12/25/2020 at 12:49 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

Are these the same forecasters who predicted a 10% contraction of the UK economy if Brexit passed or different ones? It seems like "operation fear" is still not dead.

A no deal Brexit would have resulted in a contraction. However with this bare bones agreement rates of economic growth are projected to be lower.

[Hi from France]

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On 12/25/2020 at 6:49 AM, Pattaya Spotter said:

Are these the same forecasters who predicted a 10% contraction of the UK economy if Brexit passed or different ones?

 

@Pattaya Spotter Ok it is easy to give un-sourced excessive figures, but what are exactly your figures?

 

• There are already data on growth lost since 2016, what is the estimate you found and accept now ?
• There are projections on the long term effects of brexit 10 years form now, where is the estimate you can share with us ?

 

with credible sources please, and then we can really debate

 

 

Edited January 19, 2021 by Hi from France

[Histavia]

9 hours ago, transam said:

Isn't it strange that the remain click keep telling folk they know nothing. Can you stick to the topic please.

Thank you....

Not exactly strange - the topic is the Brexit UK/EU deal and it seems that most leavers know nothing about it.....and display a huge ignorance about such things as history etc to boot - where's the flaw in that?

Edited January 19, 2021 by Histavia

[Tofer]

1 hour ago, Histavia said:

the topic is the Brexit UK/EU deal and it seems that most leavers know nothing about it.....and display a huge ignorance about such things as history etc to boot - where's the flaw in that?

 

The flaw is your huge display (correct grammar) of arrogance...

[tebee]

It's not just fish, but other meat products that are being delayed to the point of spoilage by Brexit delays

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/pigs-heads-are-rotting-in-rotterdam-as-postbrexit-paperwork-stifles-the-british-meat-industry

 

Tonnes of rotting meat is stuck at European ports as a result of "eye-watering" post-Brexit paperwork, UK meat industry leaders have told PoliticsHome – including a lorry carrying British pork that has been stuck in Holland since 1 January.

 

Meat exporters to the EU are encountering similar issues to those experienced by fish traders since the end of the Brexit transition period. They have seen lengthy new customs and health checks, customers cancelling orders, and meat having to be destroyed before reaching the continent as it's no longer fresh.

[Histavia]

3 hours ago, Tofer said:

 

The flaw is your huge display (correct grammar) of arrogance...

So at least you're not arguing with my premise..

It has bee shown that the bulk of Brexiteers are less educated than leavers and undoubtedly their critical thinking abilities are less developed. In fact most Brexiteers probably don't actually realise Tha critical thinking is a thing.

 

[Hi from France]

2 hours ago, Histavia said:

It has been shown that the bulk of Brexiteers are less educated than leavers and undoubtedly their critical thinking abilities are less developed. In fact most Brexiteers probably don't actually realise Than critical thinking is a thing.

I wouldn't go as far in generalizing but at least on this forum, we can often see that Brexiteers are often making short, mocking one-liners, but are at pain to construct an argument with data or sources. 

 

You can find here what happened when I tried to extract a bit more precision from @Loiner  : he could not develop what he meant more than writing a cynical one-liner 

 

 

@Loiner

[tebee]

You  don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.

 

Why EU membership an the single market was important. 

 

A Brexit lesson: EU’s benefits, largely invisible, hurt to lose

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/a-brexit-lesson-eus-benefits-largely-invisible-hurt-to-lose-single-market-boris-johnson/

 

Britons have finally understood (five years too late) why the European Union’s single market and customs union are important: They make EU internal borders invisible.

 

Invisible benefits are easy to forget and hard to sell politically, they are also easy to dismiss and easy to lie about, but the cost of abandoning them can be steep

[Histavia]

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

You  don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone

the info has been there for the last 5 years.

At first is was "project fear", then removers then Teething problems....but no-one has EVER come up with a tangible benefit from Brexit.

It is now gradually being the fault of "removers" and in two years time the blame will all be on the EU......... it is a remorseless combination of masocism and passing the buck no matter how much "Brexplanation" they are given

Edited January 19, 2021 by Histavia

[Hi from France]

4 minutes ago, tebee said:

You  don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.

 

Why EU membership an the single market was important. 

 

A Brexit lesson: EU’s benefits, largely invisible, hurt to lose

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/a-brexit-lesson-eus-benefits-largely-invisible-hurt-to-lose-single-market-boris-johnson/

 

Britons have finally understood (five years too late) why the European Union’s single market and customs union are important: They make EU internal borders invisible.

 

Invisible benefits are easy to forget and hard to sell politically, they are also easy to dismiss and easy to lie about, but the cost of abandoning them can be steep

 

 

I was just reading that too

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British exporters are predicted to face €28 billion in losses this year alone as a result of reduced EU demand and increased frictions and barriers at the EU border.

 

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“There is so much complexity,” Adam Marshall, the director general of the British Chambers of Commerce, told Bloomberg.

 

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“It’s like an onion — the more you peel, the more you cry.”  

 

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Hi from France said:

 

 

You can find here what happened when I tried to extract a bit more precision from @Loiner  : he could not develop what he meant more than writing a cynical one-liner 

 

 

@Loiner

Your notifications are not working.

[stevenl]

36 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Your notifications are not working.

Would depend on your settings.

[tebee]

The Scots, laughing about the Germans laughing at us...... 

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18974343.der-spiegel-writer-takes-aim-uk-government-clowns-scathing-column/

 

 

HERE in the UK, Brexit is far from over. The consequences of Boris Johnson’s disastrous deal will impact generations and spell the end of the Union, according to constitutional experts.

[kingdong]

27 minutes ago, tebee said:

The Scots, laughing about the Germans laughing at us...... 

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18974343.der-spiegel-writer-takes-aim-uk-government-clowns-scathing-column/

 

 

HERE in the UK, Brexit is far from over. The consequences of Boris Johnson’s disastrous deal will impact generations and spell the end of the Union, according to constitutional experts.

If the scots want independence let them have a referendum,and if  our northern neighbours want to side with the germans laughing at us,fine,but to coin a phase he who laughs last laughs the longest.

[Hi from France]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/20/brexit-has-driven-2500-finance-jobs-and-170bn-to-france-says-bank-governor

 

as they say on twitter

 

 

now I think Amsterdam, Dublin and Frankfurt got the same, now let's hope this is just a beginning.

 

 

 

Right now it's somewhat equivalent to moving an automotive plant (I think), so it's not ginormous, but still its a good prize

 

.... and  in terms of sovereignty it's important the EU markets and fund management are as much as possible, secured in the EU.

 

.

 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by Hi from France

[vinny41]

9 hours ago, Histavia said:

So at least you're not arguing with my premise..

It has bee shown that the bulk of Brexiteers are less educated than leavers and undoubtedly their critical thinking abilities are less developed. In fact most Brexiteers probably don't actually realise Tha critical thinking is a thing.

 

Do you actually read what you post as your post that the bulk of Brexiteers are less educated than leavers doesn't make any sense as Brexiteers and leavers are the same

[tebee]

Brexit does seem characterised by incompetence doesn't it?

 

This, from a leading Brexiters of all people.

 

https://www.turbulenttimes.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-incompetence-all-round/

[nauseus]

10 hours ago, Histavia said:

So at least you're not arguing with my premise..

It has bee shown that the bulk of Brexiteers are less educated than leavers and undoubtedly their critical thinking abilities are less developed. In fact most Brexiteers probably don't actually realise Tha critical thinking is a thing.

 

 

Where that display of thickness be then? Show tha critical link pls?  Ooh arr.

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, Hi from France said:

I wouldn't go as far in generalizing but at least on this forum, we can often see that Brexiteers are often making short, mocking one-liners, but are at pain to construct an argument with data or sources. 

 

You can find here what happened when I tried to extract a bit more precision from @Loiner  : he could not develop what he meant more than writing a cynical one-liner 

 

 

@Loiner

 

Gosh. You English has improved so much since you joined. Well done, monsieur!