2 hours ago, ukrules said:

They're idiots, vaccination is the only way out of this mess and as such it's their ultimate goal yet it's obviously not good enough for them.

 

I suspect they will also be quarantining recovered patients as well, those who are immune to it?

Recovered patients are NOT immune to it, there are people who got it twice. It is unknown if people who got vaccinated can pass it on. Who is the idiot?

In the whole of 2020 only 377 people under 60 years old  have died in England from Covid who had no "known" underlying disease.  This is from NHS statistics openly available.

 

Once you have vaccinated all people over 65............thats the end of the pandemic.

 

The UK and Israel will be the first countries in the world to achieve this.

 

 

1 hour ago, ourmanflint said:

What a bunch of absolute muppets! I give up trying to understand their nonsense day in day out

Have you given up, or just incapable of understanding?

 

There is no hard data yet that being vaccinated stops someone from being contagious, so they are making the right decision.

they are better off saying nothing expensive thailand might was already hitting thailand when other neighbouring tourist countries open it will have to chase the few who do start to travel a lot can happen between now and 2022

it will be a buyers market when they emerge from dreamland

14 day quarantine regardless, makes perfect sense even to me. And I'm not going to explain why it makes sense either 555.

As predicted months ago although you wouldn't need to be a genius at prediction to work out the way this wrenched government will extract every last baht out of a pandemic???? 

Maybe they will change the rules  again when it suits them.if i have the jab then i should be safe like many other people worldwide.if the same vaccine in use then they must accept you don,t have it.It is like 50k to stay in the hotel  when u know you are safe.every country will be taking the vaccine including thailand when that happens who knows

1 hour ago, ftpjtm said:

 

Interesting position. Also that the Thai FDA has not yet approved any vaccine for use in Thailand. This could be because;

 

- Thai virologists are working tirelessly to peer review the work of their colleagues in Europe, USA and other western countries, or;

- To save face as Thais watch vaccinations begin elsewhere, while their own government failed to procure any for Thais, or;

- To protect the financial interests of Siam Bioscience who will begin manufacturing the AstraZeneca vaccine in Q3 2021, and happens to have nepotistic connections with certain Thai powerbrokers.

 

Or maybe a combination of several of the above. 

 

But in the meantime, for whatever reason, Thai Healthcare workers and ASQ workers are being subjected to a second wave of COVID infections without the benefit of vaccination. 

The  sick  society of  Thailand is  so rank  full of  corruption this IS  the most  likely  scenario.

Zero logic, zero intelligence! To be expected!

31 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd like to know - when they eventually do open without quarantine - exactly who decides which jabs will be acceptable to Thailand's TAT and what proof they wish to see. Maybe a future of us all having bar-codes and a scanner at the airport is very near now

 

 

Vaccination at a  Thai  airport by a Thai  approved  supplier of a  Thai made half baked  vaccine at an over inflated farang price...is what Id  expect

Is this kind of nominate Dr. Who wants to dictate virologist, wheater the vaccine good or not ??  He should work in labor first with the community !

Just tell the truth... they want to sell many luxus hotel's room to foreigners with their stupid quarantine online shopping to "boost the economy" !

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by alianware

3 hours ago, Shuya said:

They wont open the border before every person in Thailand got the shot. Twice. As they didn't order it on time, that might be between mid 2022 or never. 

 

Your first sentence notes a very sensible condition to be in, for any tourist considering going there ????, (as well as for the tourist of course). This thing will keep perpetuating until a matched half of the people in any proximity, have had the shots.

 

They better get a shift on and do it before 2022,  Once the Oxford not for profit vaccine is approved surely they have the expertise in Thailand to allow manufacture and administer the vaccine on a not for profit basis?

Not a good situation if they cannot focus ????.  Once other countries get well down the road with the vaccine, what shall happen to the tourist industry, if at xmas 2021 it is in the news as SARS-cov2  exporter, destination?

Guess what? They still won’t be coming. 

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

Guess what? They still won’t be coming. 

No one is going anywhere lol. Prisoners in our own covid prisons.

So is this Guy is suggesting that the vaccine is not going to be sufficient, or are they being blinded by how much the ASQ are generating for the Government as quoted a couple of months ago, that it generated over a billion Baht in 2 months.... 

36 minutes ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

So is this Guy is suggesting that the vaccine is not going to be sufficient, or are they being blinded by how much the ASQ are generating for the Government as quoted a couple of months ago, that it generated over a billion Baht in 2 months.... 

I think he has questions over the effectiveness of the vaccines. Without long term trials that question has not been answered.

5 hours ago, RR2020 said:

In the whole of 2020 only 377 people under 60 years old  have died in England from Covid who had no "known" underlying disease.  This is from NHS statistics openly available.

 

Once you have vaccinated all people over 65............thats the end of the pandemic.

 

The UK and Israel will be the first countries in the world to achieve this.

 

 

 

Yet WHO fears it will become an endemic, which means we will have to get used to vaccines jabs once in a while.

 

If so, i wonder how Thailand will react to that.

They can't put people in quarantine forever.

Foreigners who have been vaccinated still need to quarantine

 

Effectively dooming millions of Thai people who don't operate ASQ hotels to some more economic misery.

 

They'll be lucky to get tourism up to 5% of a normal year until they eliminate the ASQ requirement.

 

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by impulse

5 hours ago, RR2020 said:

In the whole of 2020 only 377 people under 60 years old  have died in England from Covid who had no "known" underlying disease.  This is from NHS statistics openly available.

 

Once you have vaccinated all people over 65............thats the end of the pandemic.

 

The UK and Israel will be the first countries in the world to achieve this.

 

The issue, of course, is that millions of us have loved ones with underlying diseases that we hope (and expect) to be around for decades.  Not to mention those of us who have lived with underlying health issues for decades.  And we'd like to be around for some more decades.

 

Here in the USA, most of us know someone who died unexpectedly of Covid.  Young(ish), vibrant, and otherwise healthy.

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by impulse

8 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

 

When it is proven I am sure they will reverse this decision. Pretty sure they are not idiots. 
 

The UK has started vaccinations, but also just had their worst week for infections which will probably lead to the worst month for deaths in January and February and have a new mutant highly infectious strain that is now making itself around the world because of people traveling. 

The only countries who are vaccinating currently rushed into it out of need. So we don’t really want them here do we. 
 

If they don’t want to abide by Thailand’s rules, then bad luck, stay home. Look what happened at the Swiss ski resort.
 

I applaud this sensible decision. 
 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/uk-covid-case-update-looming-disaster-as-hospitals-overflow/news-story/f37b646c4878a687d8114af513a7cb3c

 

They are idiots and big time, any public health ministry that allow thousands of unchecked workers come in from know infested country on one hand and want to quarantine people who have been vaccinated and comes from relatively green countries is an idiot...

8 hours ago, asiasurfer said:

As long as Thailand has ASQ, very few foreigners will come. By the way, what about Thais traveling to Russia or Europe to get their vaccine jab?? Do they need to quarantine upon return as well? 

 

I'm waiting for this trend to happen anyway: Wealthy Thais traveling abroad to get their Covid vaccine at their own cost. Because this government is not capable of getting the vaccinations going in Thailand, for a variety of reasons.

 

Also, wouldn't it be sad if travellers couldn't be ripped off any more in one of those overpriced, low quality ASQ's?? 

 

Good riddance TAT! 

I'm pretty sure most unconnected Thais entering the kingdom will have to be quarantined.

 

If you are vaccinated then this is good opportunity to go to Costa Rica because prices will be much lower and not crowded. Costa Rica does not require a quarantine.

 

Quote

Since Nov. 1, Costa Rica has allowed all countries in the world to enter by air, as long as they meet the country’s visa and COVID-19 entry requirements.

The Government of the Republic has facilitated the entry of international tourists, and since Oct. 26, eliminated the requirement of RT-PCR tests for the detection of the coronavirus. Neither Costa Ricans nor foreigners will be issued sanitary confinement (or quarantine) orders when entering the country by air. These measures are subject to change and dependent on the evolution of the pandemic both in Costa Rica and around the world.

Tourists visiting Costa Rica are asked to abide by the sanitary protocols implemented for carrying out all tourist activities in the country.

 

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by Don Chance

I am from the future, year 2025.

 

Covid surcharge at every bar:  300 baht

covid travel tax;  1000 baht

covid check:  500 baht

covid t-shirt;  200 baht

covid insurance;  10000 baht

covid-free certificate:  1000 baht

 

last time I heard someone had covid.....  2022.

 

the illuminati is super, super, super rich

9 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

 

When it is proven I am sure they will reverse this decision. Pretty sure they are not idiots. 
 

The UK has started vaccinations, but also just had their worst week for infections which will probably lead to the worst month for deaths in January and February and have a new mutant highly infectious strain that is now making itself around the world because of people traveling. 

The only countries who are vaccinating currently rushed into it out of need. So we don’t really want them here do we. 
 

If they don’t want to abide by Thailand’s rules, then bad luck, stay home. Look what happened at the Swiss ski resort.
 

I applaud this sensible decision. 
 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/uk-covid-case-update-looming-disaster-as-hospitals-overflow/news-story/f37b646c4878a687d8114af513a7cb3c

 

They are idiots...

8 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

What a bunch of absolute muppets! I give up trying to understand their nonsense day in day out

What is difficult? 
The vaccine isn’t proven yet.

Australia has the same policy.

My thoughts are Japan will have to be the first country and a good one to deal with if a vaccine will allow entry for many nationalities  in Asia ( or perhaps the world) I see TV commercials several times a week for the July 2021 Tokyo Olympics that were delayed from last year. The pressure must be massive for the Japanese. Many people will want to arrive in June or even May. Thailand and others will follow Japans lead. 

10 hours ago, ukrules said:

They're idiots, vaccination is the only way out of this mess and as such it's their ultimate goal yet it's obviously not good enough for them.

 

I suspect they will also be quarantining recovered patients as well, those who are immune to it?

The only idiots are people that don't have the common sense to understand that's what most reasonable countries will be doing. 

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-exemptions-for-returning-australians-vaccinated-against-covid-19-under-consideration-hotel-quarantine/a8778eea-e262-4a3a-9314-38c2ee880a4e

 

The real idiots are the ones who don't understand the difference between vaccination and transmission.  ????

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by starky

10 hours ago, ukrules said:

They're idiots, vaccination is the only way out of this mess and as such it's their ultimate goal yet it's obviously not good enough for them.

 

I suspect they will also be quarantining recovered patients as well, those who are immune to it?

Maybe you should rethink what you said . It is my understanding that you can get covid before the vaccine and after the vaccine until maybe a couple of weeks later .

3 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

So is this Guy is suggesting that the vaccine is not going to be sufficient, or are they being blinded by how much the ASQ are generating for the Government as quoted a couple of months ago, that it generated over a billion Baht in 2 months.... 

the latter

54 minutes ago, Lingba said:

They are idiots...

are you referring to video in the article or the article itself?

 

would be interesting to see another George Floyd incident, I wonder police would backdown on lockdown restrictions again, and covid would only just make the small print like last time...