ASTRA vs PFIZER vaccine

[KannikaP]

Astra is made in UK, Pfizer in Europe (Belgium)

 

Somebody explain why UK is exporting Astra to Europe and vice versa with Pfizer.

Why not simply use Astra in UK and let the Euros use the viagra company's super cold one.

[LomSak27]

The EU has an advance purchase agreement for 80 million doses with Astrazeneca. by the end of March, now they say  they can't do half that amount in that time frame. It's not a matter of just going to another 7/11 and buying a batch. Likely pfizer has made agreements with countries and their production is already spoken for.  

[GinBoy2]

2 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

The EU has an advance purchase agreement for 80 million doses with Astrazeneca. by the end of March, now they say  they can't do half that amount in that time frame. It's not a matter of just going to another 7/11 and buying a batch. Likely pfizer has made agreements with countries and their production is already spoken for.  

I think you are totally correct, it's what advance purchase orders placed were with all these companies, even before they were clinically proven and approved.

 

My wife just got her first Pfizer shot, and the next day a co-worker of mine got the Moderna shot, it's all pretty much just availability and how fast they can manufacture and make deliveries to the customers who placed pre-orders.

 

The big losers in all of this are the second and third world countries who can't afford to place all those advance orders. They are probably looking at 2022/23 before they can realistically do anything

[ThomasThBKK]

3 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

The EU has an advance purchase agreement for 80 million doses with Astrazeneca. by the end of March, now they say  they can't do half that amount in that time frame. It's not a matter of just going to another 7/11 and buying a batch. Likely pfizer has made agreements with countries and their production is already spoken for.  

Pfizers also has production issues. And manufactures in the US too.

 

Astra is originally a swedish company but not sure how this natioslim bs even matters here, pfizers vaccine was funded with 550 mio from germany but it's not like they demand to use it alone...

 

There's something really messed up in peoples head if they assume countries should just keep the whole supply for themselves just because a production plant is based there...

 

All the vials made for these vaccines are produced by Shott AG in germany, which belongs to Carl Zeiss glas - careful what you which for, not that someone pulls some <deleted> on you too...

 

The EU are useful idiots as always, too damn nice but the UK, and the US also seems to grab as many vials they can find, it's seriously <deleted> up.

 

 

[cormanr7]

Pfizer is producing its vaccine in numerous locations in the US, as well as in Puurs, Belgium. Pfizer had temporarily reduced production in the latter location apparently to upgrade the facility in order to increase production. Apparently they are now back on schedule https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/151481/pfizer-biontechs-vaccine-production-back-on-track-puurs-belgium-doses/. A new factory is supposed to open in Marburg (yes, from the infamous virus!) in Germany in February.

Astra Zeneca has several plants in the UK as well as in Germany and the Netherlands as well as other locations where license production takes place (Serum Inst. of India, also planned in Thailand, Australia and elsewhere).

Both UK and EU have ordered a number of different vaccines so as to spread risk (some might not work, major problem with the GSK-Sanofi vaccine, now delayed to end of the year. Company will produce AZ vaccine in the meantime) and assure sufficient supplies (that did not work out so well).