Covid 19 vaccination

[Maybole]

It appears that the virus will be beaten by the various vaccinations now coming on the market.

I am puzzled by some of the reports, not one mentions the possibility of a vaccinated person passing on an infection. We have seen that an infected person without symptoms may pass on the virus infection to a 2nd party.

A vaccinated person will not contract the disease, but, will he or she after being in contact with another infected person (with or without symptoms) carry the virus and pass it on to an unvaccinated victem?

[internationalism]

looks, like all those vax will lessen illness (symptoms, hospitalisation, death), but not prevent it.

this is good enough.

but doesn't prevent from getting sick, passing on the others.

viral load from an asymptomatic person is smaller than this with a full blown ilness.

 

probably they will work for a year or till another wave (probably less than one year).

Vax will have to be twitched for the new mutations, takes some 6 weeks (as I remember) to get an improved one.

 

there is worldwide shortage, they go to the highest bidder.

 

the other thing to keep in mind - all those vax are experimental treatment, no researched properly. People, not only the elderly and fragile, dying within 48h. But autopsies are rarely carried on, once the body is buried/cremated, there is no chance for prove why they have died.  All authorities are trying to keep it this way, less pensioners and sick to take care of

Edited January 30, 2021 by internationalism

[Jingthing]

The answer sadly is yes.

People that have been vaccinated can still get infected and spread the virus to others that aren't vaccinated.

That's a big reason why most people in the world should be vaccinated.

I don't even understand the attraction of vaccine passports for travel.

 

You Can Spread COVID-19 After Getting a Vaccine (healthline.com)

[Jingthing]

58 minutes ago, internationalism said:

looks, like all those vax will lessen illness (symptoms, hospitalisation, death), but not prevent it.

this is good enough.

but doesn't prevent from getting sick, passing on the others.

viral load from an asymptomatic person is smaller than this with a full blown ilness.

 

probably they will work for a year or till another wave (probably less than one year).

Vax will have to be twitched for the new mutations, takes some 6 weeks (as I remember) to get an improved one.

 

there is worldwide shortage, they go to the highest bidder.

 

the other thing to keep in mind - all those vax are experimental treatment, no researched properly. People, not only the elderly and fragile, dying within 48h. But autopsies are rarely carried on, once the body is buried/cremated, there is no chance for prove why they have died.  All authorities are trying to keep it this way, less pensioners and sick to take care of

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to suggest "all authorities" don't care about saving the lives of the elderly. I call B.S. 

[oldhippy]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to suggest "all authorities" don't care about saving the lives of the elderly. I call B.S. 

I don't think there is a conspiracy, but choices will be made, with the same result.

[ukrules]

Time will tell on this, we will know in a year or two

 

Personally I think this is the 'fifth human coronavirus cold', add that to the other 200+ different viruses and strains of virus which are also classed as 'common cold'.

 

It will be here in one form or another forever but will likely mutate into something much less harmful over the years.

 

I'd like to see what happened when the other 4 human coronavirus colds first emerged from the bats, cows, etc but nobody alive is old enough to really know that and the documentation from the so called 'Russian Flu' pandemic which lasted 3 or 4 years starting in 1889 sounds remarkably like COVID and it's thought to be another of the human coronavirus colds (OC43). It is also still going around to this day but in a form which is far less harmful than the original based on the symptoms described by doctors at the time.

Edited January 30, 2021 by ukrules

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, Maybole said:

It appears that the virus will be beaten by the various vaccinations now coming on the market.

I am puzzled by some of the reports, not one mentions the possibility of a vaccinated person passing on an infection. We have seen that an infected person without symptoms may pass on the virus infection to a 2nd party.

A vaccinated person will not contract the disease, but, will he or she after being in contact with another infected person (with or without symptoms) carry the virus and pass it on to an unvaccinated victem?

 

A vaccinated person has reduced chance of passing on the Virus.

 

The Vaccine doesn’t kill the SARS-CoV-2 Virus, the vaccine limits the impact of the Virus on the patient such that its that the patient does not contract the disease, Covid-19, or in most cases (depending on the efficacy of the vaccine) the patient is impacted less and suffers less serious symptoms. 

 

People suffering from Covid-19 carry a higher viral load, cough and sneeze more, have runny eyes etc - they spread the virus more readily. That said, they already isolate themselves (theoretically), but in the first few days, with the onset of the disease (Covid-19) they are in effect ‘super-spreaders’.

 

Vaccines will make more people asymptomatic of Covid-19. Without symptoms the virus will be killed off more readily by the body's natural response. Thus: Vaccinated people ‘get rid of’ the virus more readily from within their body - they are less contagious and for a shorter period of time and thus present less risk of spreading the virus than a non-vaccinated person. 

 

The more vaccinated people there are, the less the virus will spread, but that doesn’t mean vaccinated people can’t spread it. 

Edited January 31, 2021 by richard_smith237

[Maybole]

A follow up question: if a vaccinated and thus immune person comes into contact with an infectious person, and only discovers it later, how long should this vaccinated person self-isolate or be quarantined foe ?

[Cobra666]

I have to say, I miss seasonal flu.

[scammed]

google Kristi Simmonds North Carolina facebook

she is a nurse and took the moderna vaccine

and got complications to say the least.

the video half way down her facebook is shocking

Edited February 1, 2021 by scammed

[metisdead]

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