Pattaya Is Great For Lonely Men

[tropo]

Very true. I wish everyone (Farang) read this and appreciate being in this beautiful country. Not critize and complaining. In the first place, you came here to enjoy life and like our life style. No one invite you here. If you don't like our country, you feel free to go home to your original country where's boring. Please respect our culture and fit in with our tradition. Do not try to change it. This is our life style. Sawadee!

How very well put peacemakers. here here.

Here, here Lancashirelad, after disagreeing with the author's assessment of Pattaya and "love for hire", we are invited back to whence we came.

What you missed is that it's the OP who is trying to "change it". He's trying to convert "love for hire" into "love for real".

[Ulysses G.]

That's it ! Write me off ! I'm obviously of no value to Western society. Guess I'll have to look for acceptance elsewhere in the world, where a guy that ain't so good looking, is often kind of shy, and is willing to work in some gawd-awful places can still stand a chance of having some fun and meeting someone nice.

But the God durned Femi-Nazis, weirdos and bitter Puritanical types follow you everywhere you go these days - the fun haters!

[Barryz]

This is an interesting topic and I'm not sure what the truth is.

As I see it, those who have had a bad experience by getting involved with a Thai bar girl are more likely to talk about it than those who are continuing to have a good relationship.

Let's face it, if you are a bloke who is very fond of your partner, you are not likely to help the relationship by shouting out to the world that she was a bar girl. I mean, "Hey! you guy's. You're wrong and I can prove it because I've been very happily married to Thai whore for 10 years." It doesn't quite make sense, does it? I can accept that a few blokes might be prepared to admit such a thing under anonymity, but I would think generally that any bloke in such a happy relationship would not want to dwell upon his partner's past infidelities and character failings, or at least not broadcast them to the world.

[Ling Kae]

Today I went shopping and for a stroll on the beach and thought about how so many single men come here to Pattaya and are very Happy with their lives here. I saw men from all countries, all ages, all sizes, some were disabled as well. Most of these guys had a nice Thai lady looking after them, same as myself I guess.

The point I am trying to make is that some of these guys would be just stuck in room alone back in farangland wherever that may be but coming to Thailand has turned their life around completely. Sure in the beginning some guys may have paid for company but most end up finding a nice lady to take care of them eventually.

I think Pattaya is a great place to come and visit and start living life again. You could never get a live in care-er, companion, cook and maybe lover in farangland 24/7 (full time care-ers are hard to find) but here in Thailand many ladies are happy to provide this kind of care and some are quite happy to eventually get married to the man. I would highly recommend Thailand to anybody for the above reasons, the happy men with smiling faces I see everyday speak for themselves, well done Thai ladies and Thailand.

Well put, my uncle was 67 and widowed sat in his living room waiting for god,bored ,he was still working but had no hobbies or ambition, SO I BROUGHT HIM TO PATTAYA !,yes im not afraid to admit it, and he loves it, comes here 5 times a year and may well move here, you will probably ge a bit of stick for this posting, even perhaps from gay men and men with katoeys, i dont opinioate on there doings but watch them jump on this, all the best

Here is nice man, most people would be selfishly looking to file away an old relative into an old peoples home and in some cases waiting for them to expire just so they can collect their inheritance.

You have given your uncle a new lease of life, something to look forward to, I wish the whole world was full of kind people like you. You are definitely not a selfish man.

[Ling Kae]

That's it ! Write me off ! I'm obviously of no value to Western society. Guess I'll have to look for acceptance elsewhere in the world, where a guy that ain't so good looking, is often kind of shy, and is willing to work in some gawd-awful places can still stand a chance of having some fun and meeting someone nice.

But the God durned Femi-Nazis, weirdos and bitter Puritanical types follow you everywhere you go these days - the fun haters!

There are a lot of fun haters posting here. The whole thread is about lonely men back home in farangland, they come here and they are not lonely anymore and very happy, some people don't quite get this concept and try to turn this thread into bar girl bashing thread.

Last night was a busy night in Pattaya, I saw thousands of happy guys walking around, they are the evidence, what you see is exactly what is happening, definitely not the tummy rumblings of some of the posters here.

[tropo]

That's it ! Write me off ! I'm obviously of no value to Western society. Guess I'll have to look for acceptance elsewhere in the world, where a guy that ain't so good looking, is often kind of shy, and is willing to work in some gawd-awful places can still stand a chance of having some fun and meeting someone nice.

But the God durned Femi-Nazis, weirdos and bitter Puritanical types follow you everywhere you go these days - the fun haters!

There are a lot of fun haters posting here. The whole thread is about lonely men back home in farangland, they come here and they are not lonely anymore and very happy, some people don't quite get this concept and try to turn this thread into bar girl bashing thread.

Last night was a busy night in Pattaya, I saw thousands of happy guys walking around, they are the evidence, what you see is exactly what is happening, definitely not the tummy rumblings of some of the posters here.

Ling Kae, there are other ways to enjoy the "fruits" of Pattaya without getting married here.

Don't assume that everyone who stands against marrying a whore is a "fun-hater" with "tummy rumblings".

[mikethevigoman]

So what have tattooed sheet metal workers from Dresden ever done wrong to you ?

Nothing personally...other than their very presence and the discomfort of having them within my sight.

In your home country, you don't have to endure that, you would not even know where they gather, what they do and how they enjoy their fun. One would not even know they exist.

In Pattaya, you can't avoid them.

Sharing a lift with them (tattoed. old-fat-bald-ugly with gold chains around their bull's necks) does not inspire any confidence that Pattaya is the place to be at.

They are not all bad,, i know one !

[mikethevigoman]

That's it ! Write me off ! I'm obviously of no value to Western society. Guess I'll have to look for acceptance elsewhere in the world, where a guy that ain't so good looking, is often kind of shy, and is willing to work in some gawd-awful places can still stand a chance of having some fun and meeting someone nice.

But the God durned Femi-Nazis, weirdos and bitter Puritanical types follow you everywhere you go these days - the fun haters!

There are a lot of fun haters posting here. The whole thread is about lonely men back home in farangland, they come here and they are not lonely anymore and very happy, some people don't quite get this concept and try to turn this thread into bar girl bashing thread.

Last night was a busy night in Pattaya, I saw thousands of happy guys walking around, they are the evidence, what you see is exactly what is happening, definitely not the tummy rumblings of some of the posters here.

I think the people critisising the men having fun may be married, ? ,i remember a quote john cleese made in an episode of fawlty towers, when the word fun was mentioned he said " fun me? no, that particular avenue of pleasure was closed off years ago " ,... walking st maybe ? Edited May 20, 2007 by mikethevigoman

[Momo8]

Do's and Don'ts of the Pattaya Sex Scene

DO'S

DO take sufficient money. Although a paying sexual encounter, by western standards, is relatively cheap, you may become sex-crazed and go through all your money in record time; plus the fact, the ladies are ingenious when it comes to extracting your lucre. Pace yourself.

DO experiment. What’s on offer is Go-Go bars where the ladies are often semi-clad or even nud_e, so you see what you’re getting in advance; beer bars, where the idea is to get you to spend as much as possible on drinks before bar-fining and taking the lady back to your hotel; short-time bars, similar to beer bars, except with en-suite bedrooms; lady-houses, usually only for Thais; 500 Baht pick-ups in discos, and short-time encounters on Beach Road, but these ladies have a high turn over and are dangerous in terms of STDs.

DO expect to have to pay for bar-fines (the fee to take the lady out of the bar), lady drinks and the lady. Go-Go bars charge the most because the females are well-above average, so you can expect to pay bar fines of c.500 Baht and between c.1-3,000 Baht, depending on the lady. Beer bars are much cheaper, but the cheapest is bars with en-suite bedrooms where the average all-in price is 500 Baht, plus drinks. Try Soi 6.

DO use a condom, unless you both want to get blood-tests to eliminate AIDS, gonorrhoea, TB and hepatitis risks.

DO appreciate that the ladies usually have to support a family back home.

DO be generous, otherwise you’ll be cheated, gain a bad-reputation and be shunned by the ladies.

DO keep your wits about you, especially after dark.

DON'TS

DON’T confuse lust and love. The ladies are past-mistresses at beguiling you.

DON’T take too many ladies from the same bar. They can be very jealous and murderous. Bobbitting (having your genitals cut off) is no idle threat!

DON’T buy too many lady drinks. The bar-owner and ladies become too avaricious and it’s bad for the rest of us!

DON’T believe everything the ladies tell you, especially if they speak good English, wear fashionable clothes and lots of gold. They’ve been around forever!

DON’T promise to send your chosen lady 30,000 Baht a month to stay away from bar-work and remain faithful to you. They often have 2 or 3 star-struck foreign lovers on a string and Thai boyfriends as well!

DON’T go home, sell up and return to get married. Not unless you can support yourself. Jobs are difficult to come by.

DON’T put property or cars in your wife/girlfriend’s name, if you return to get married. Form a company and buy that way.

DON’T ejaculate more than once every 20 days if you’re over 60. The protein loss is too high. (bit unrealistic that one)

DON’T overuse Viagra or combine it with excessive alcohol if you have high blood pressure or a weak heart.

DON’T wear gold or expensive watches. You’ll loose them!

http://www.mypattaya.com/122pattayasexguide.asp

[0Mix1up]

I watched my recently deceased father try to just even get a date with old women and they wouldn't.

I look at his last 10 years of his life as a single man and saw his lonelyness and he was relatively lucky in that he lived with me(maybe:-0) and spent good time with his grand children.

He was very active, light drinker, non smoker, fit and handsum, financially secure, played bowls where he met many women yet none would show him any interest.

I regret I didn't discover Pattaya for him!

What I see is lotsa older guys with smiles on their faces and that is really a shock because you see so few back at home.

Lifes short don't waste your time worrying what "other" people think or say, your along time dead!

Edited May 20, 2007 by 0Mix1up

[mikethevigoman]

I watched my recently deceased father try to just even get a date with old women and they wouldn't.

I look at his last 10 years of his life as a single man and saw his lonelyness and he was relatively lucky in that he lived with me(maybe:-0) and spent good time with his grand children.

He was very active, light drinker, non smoker, fit and handsum, financially secure, played bowls where he met many women yet none would show him any interest.

I regret I didn't discover Pattaya for him!

What I see is lotsa older guys with smiles on their faces and that is really a shock because you see so few back at home.

Lifes short don't waste your time worrying what "other" people think or say, your along time dead!

What a beautiful post, its a shame i couldnt have introduced him to uncle frank!,, live on your fond memories of your father my friend, life is precious, we really do need to make the most of it,..

[Ulysses G.]

Today I ran into a guy who was one of my best buddies when I first came to Thailand. He was an older, former New York cop and hated everything - just full of anger all the time. He met an aged, really hard-core lady of the night in Pattaya and moved in with her and she has always stuck by him no matter what a dick he was.

15 years later and he is a changed man, a happy, pleasant guy and everyone who knows him credits her.

Truly a hooker with a heart of gold.

Edited May 20, 2007 by Ulysses G.

[Mark Wolfe]

Interesting that in Pattaya, it seems that the median age is about 60. ...

The best advice I could give would be this: Never forget that it's all FAKE -- she doesn't love you (maybe doesn't even like you very much), she isn't going to change for you and the only thing for sure that attracts her to you is the lump in your wallet.

Oh, and to the

I regret I didn't discover Pattaya for him!

fellow, would you really like your father to have been horndogging with prostitutes 40 or 50 years younger than he? Would you have condoned this sort of behavior in your home country? If not, why is it suddenly OK if it's in Thailand?

(In England, or wherever in the West)

"Gee Dad, you look lonely; why don't I phone up some escort agency and see if I can rustle up a nice whore for you to hobnob with? How 'bout a nice young one? Twenty okay with you?"

Yeah, right....

[britmaveric]

Mark Wolfe - Fake? Oh I'm sure some of the ladies its fake - however there are genuine relationships that spawn out of this. I know quite a few successful relationships that fit the criteria. Food for thought - how many supposed genuine relationships aren't faking it in the west - if divorce rate is any indicator I think you shouldn't judge so fast mate.

[Ulysses G.]

"Gee Dad, you look lonely; why don't I phone up some escort agency and see if I can rustle up a nice whore for you to hobnob with? How 'bout a nice young one? Twenty okay with you?"

Yeah, right....

Why not? Doesn't have to be love.

He sure would have been a lot less lonely, and if the young lady is willing...

[Naam]

I regret I didn't discover Pattaya for him!

i refused to take my old man to Pattaya for some realxing weeks when he asked me to do so a couple of years after my mother died. now the old man is dead and i regret bitterly that i did not grant him his simple wish!

[suiging]

My mother has just past on and no one will ever replace her for my Dad. However, I'll bring him out for a month in the summer and encourage him to stay. As has been said on this thread many times, too many lonely old people in the world, with our favourite town being a haven for folk with nothing to live for but memories in drab suburbia

[walkon]

Today I went shopping and for a stroll on the beach and thought about how so many single men come here to Pattaya and are very Happy with their lives here. I saw men from all countries, all ages, all sizes, some were disabled as well. Most of these guys had a nice Thai lady looking after them, same as myself I guess.

The point I am trying to make is that some of these guys would be just stuck in room alone back in farangland wherever that may be but coming to Thailand has turned their life around completely. Sure in the beginning some guys may have paid for company but most end up finding a nice lady to take care of them eventually.

I think Pattaya is a great place to come and visit and start living life again. You could never get a live in care-er, companion, cook and maybe lover in farangland 24/7 (full time care-ers are hard to find) but here in Thailand many ladies are happy to provide this kind of care and some are quite happy to eventually get married to the man. I would highly recommend Thailand to anybody for the above reasons, the happy men with smiling faces I see everyday speak for themselves, well done Thai ladies and Thailand.

Pattaya is full of happy dreamers. If these so called happy guys stop dreaming, they'll discover the reality of the situation.

The favourite choice of boyfriend/husband for these poor, poverty stricken girls is disabled and/or old men who may not have too much time left on their clock.

Keep your head buried deep in the sand and stay "happy".

Last night I was in A Go Go Club and a disabled man hobbled in and sat down at the front row at the stage. The first thing one of the dancers did was lean over and give him a kiss. This man had a smile on his face and continued to enjoy his music and chat with his male friend. To have your head in the sand is to think he would have a girl do that to him in farangland. When a man finally hooks up with a Thai girl in a long term relationship who cares how they met as long as they are both happy. Everyone deserves companionship and if you can't get it in farangland what's wrong with coming here to get it? And yes I am happy and married to a Thai lady and my head is not in the sand, are you happy?

I think it is a Lovely and wonderful kind and humane gesture for that girl to give him a kiss. I think it would an equally commersurate gesture if that girl(a girl) would live/take care of him for the normal or even moderately elevated salary that say a Thai nurse would make.

If she did it on an RN salary and didn't try to get him to pay for the sick buffalo, the damaged roof, the sisters education, etc etc etc I'd say she were a Saint. What would be the least bit wrong with a likely non HS grad to earn an RN salary and be seen in a similar light as Teresa of Calcutta???

[walkon]

Mark Wolfe - Fake? Oh I'm sure some of the ladies its fake - however there are genuine relationships that spawn out of this. I know quite a few successful relationships that fit the criteria. Food for thought - how many supposed genuine relationships aren't faking it in the west - if divorce rate is any indicator I think you shouldn't judge so fast mate.

Yes there certainly are women faking it in the west. And yes there are happy couples formed in entertainment venues. And no it is not easy for us(me included) to get a date with a young slim gal back home. The difference is that when we get dates with the P girls they are based on money being the motivational factor, whereas at least in some of the "back home" dating there are 2 people both financially OK with other reasons to get to know each other.

PS: the HIV test most commonly taken cannot be used as a quick fix to no condoms. That test detects atibodies and antibodies can take months to develop. The test to get is the one that detects antigen. ie Someone can have unprotected sex today, have the hiv virus in their blood, but the antiibody test will be NEGATIVE until they(antibodies develop) 1-3 months approx.

Good advice about property, land, business. Also GET a PRENUP.......

[Humphrey Bear]

All the companionship and so on are fine for the older guy - but he's going to get even older and require care and medical attention.

And that's when he has to decide where the best value for money lies.

a) Stay in Thailand with priivate medical care that often is second-rate.

b. ) Stay in Thailand and use top hospitals which charge close to European rates

c) Return home and get medical care (but little TLC)

d) Take Noi / Lek / Tip back with him for the TLC. Which means marriage for the visa. (If she wants to go)

Edited May 20, 2007 by Humphrey Bear

[borracho]

I've swung back and forth on this thread, wanting to make comments but then thought about what the OP has posted.

And have to say, the simple answer is "Yes, Pattaya is great for lonely men".

I'm confused. I this a gay thread?

Then again on my way to the gogo bars in Pattaya I've passed Boyz Town. I reckon that's a gay boy area.

Even on soi pattayaland 2 I've seen the world's most stunning katoeys. I know they're not gay but their clients clearly are borderline.

So I agree Pattaya really is the greatest for lonely "people" of all persuasions.

Edited May 20, 2007 by borracho

[Mark Wolfe]

People comparing Pattaya to places in the West are not thinking rationally (are they Thai?).

Face it, there is no other place in the West like Pattaya. Sure, some bird might settle on a particular bloke, but the reasons are 99 percent financial.

As the Thai hooker ages, she looks for that golden parachute -- the aging farang wanting a "real" relationship over time. She's too old (read unattractive) to land many customers (and let us pause here and reflect that ALL men are customers to these women – that they might actually like one or two along the way more than a normal "John" is to be expected), yet must continue to contribute to the money pool (along with her daughter who would be old enough now to enter the fray, if the woman was lucky enough to pop a girl way back when – nearly all Thai hookers come factory equipped with child[ren]).

Few relationships in the West arise by meeting prostitutes and then falling in love with them and then wanting to live your life with them (and showering them with money in exchange for what in the West would be considered not for sale – love [or the perceived trapping of love] – but men from the West come to Thailand only to lose their moral compasses).

This notion that divorce rates in Western countries have a relationship with forming a relationship with a whore in Thailand is ludicrous in the extreme.

Look, all these relationships are financial in nature, period.

Can a geezer have some fun? Sure! Can he get his leg over with a babe that he couldn't even talk to in the West (and for which he would be ostracized from the community – "Fred's sleeping with a woman 45 years his junior!")? Absolutely! Will he stop being lonely? Sure, if he pulls the wool over his own eyes and thinks the prostitute "really" likes him. Will he end up heartbroken and poorer? It's likely, but not for sure.

Edited May 20, 2007 by Mark Wolfe

[tropo]

Does having a relationship with a very young, uneducated girl of a foreign culture and language cure loneliness? NO WAY!

Most of the happy expats living in Pattaya stay that way way by establishing a group of expat friends.

Edited May 20, 2007 by tropo

[Ulysses G.]

Does having a relationship with a very young, uneducated girl of a foreign culture and language cure loneliness? NO WAY!

Bullsh*t. Speak for yourself.

I've been here 20 years and never been lonely.

[Barryz]

Do's and Don'ts of the Pattaya Sex Scene

DON'T ejaculate more than once every 20 days if you're over 60. The protein loss is too high. (bit unrealistic that one)

http://www.mypattaya.com/122pattayasexguide.asp

What I like about this forum is the emphasis on good, sound, practical advice. I guess not many men would think of the above as a thing to avoid. Could this be the male equivalent of, "Not tonight, dear, I have a headache."?

Not tonight dear, I have to preserve some protein . I wonder if a high protein diet would help .

[wilko]

There are good and bad people in every soceity. Does Pattaya have more than It's fair share of the bad ?

Yes, it does. Those "bad" people from world's societies have concentrated in Pattaya.

Tatooed sheet metal workers from Dresden, UK football hooligans, US midwest shitholes residents, alcoholics, whoremongers, social rejects of any and every kind...the source is the whole planet, the destination is - Pattaya.

That's why it gets more of bad than any average place.

Being on the family side of what Pattaya has to offer, I am contempt.

Enjoying what most of the visitors or residents don't even know exists there.

But you still came here too?!?!?!?!

[mikethevigoman]

Interesting that in Pattaya, it seems that the median age is about 60. ...

The best advice I could give would be this: Never forget that it's all FAKE -- she doesn't love you (maybe doesn't even like you very much), she isn't going to change for you and the only thing for sure that attracts her to you is the lump in your wallet.

Oh, and to the

I regret I didn't discover Pattaya for him!

fellow, would you really like your father to have been horndogging with prostitutes 40 or 50 years younger than he? Would you have condoned this sort of behavior in your home country? If not, why is it suddenly OK if it's in Thailand?

(In England, or wherever in the West)

"Gee Dad, you look lonely; why don't I phone up some escort agency and see if I can rustle up a nice whore for you to hobnob with? How 'bout a nice young one? Twenty okay with you?"

Yeah, right....

BIT OLD 20 !

[tropo]

THE MAN WITH A TICKET TO THAILAND AND 1000 BAHT IS KING !

Maybe many years ago 1000 baht would get some locals excited, but 1000 baht is small change here in Pattaya now.

Where I live on Pratamnak Hill most foreigners could not afford to buy the houses they're building here. The locals are definitely not short of a penny.

You might have to head to poorer Cambodia and Vietnam to feel like a king with 1000 baht these days.

Edited May 21, 2007 by tropo

[Thehedonist]

Today I went shopping and for a stroll on the beach and thought about how so many single men come here to Pattaya and are very Happy with their lives here. I saw men from all countries, all ages, all sizes, some were disabled as well. Most of these guys had a nice Thai lady looking after them, same as myself I guess.

The point I am trying to make is that some of these guys would be just stuck in room alone back in farangland wherever that may be but coming to Thailand has turned their life around completely. Sure in the beginning some guys may have paid for company but most end up finding a nice lady to take care of them eventually.

I think Pattaya is a great place to come and visit and start living life again. You could never get a live in care-er, companion, cook and maybe lover in farangland 24/7 (full time care-ers are hard to find) but here in Thailand many ladies are happy to provide this kind of care and some are quite happy to eventually get married to the man. I would highly recommend Thailand to anybody for the above reasons, the happy men with smiling faces I see everyday speak for themselves, well done Thai ladies and Thailand.

[/quote

Only the lonely

Dum dum dum diddy do wa

Stay in UK and rot

Dum dum dum diddy do wa

Only the lonely

Dum dum dum diddy do wa

Go to pattaya and make the most of what they got !

Dum dum dum diddy do wa

List to me now, DA DA DA DA ( High note )

and not the pricks da da da da

Its off to Pattaya da da da

And get your kicks

Song Roy Orbison, lryics The hedonist !

Edited May 21, 2007 by Thehedonist

[Ling Kae]

That's it ! Write me off ! I'm obviously of no value to Western society. Guess I'll have to look for acceptance elsewhere in the world, where a guy that ain't so good looking, is often kind of shy, and is willing to work in some gawd-awful places can still stand a chance of having some fun and meeting someone nice.

But the God durned Femi-Nazis, weirdos and bitter Puritanical types follow you everywhere you go these days - the fun haters!

There are a lot of fun haters posting here. The whole thread is about lonely men back home in farangland, they come here and they are not lonely anymore and very happy, some people don't quite get this concept and try to turn this thread into bar girl bashing thread.

Last night was a busy night in Pattaya, I saw thousands of happy guys walking around, they are the evidence, what you see is exactly what is happening, definitely not the tummy rumblings of some of the posters here.

Ling Kae, there are other ways to enjoy the "fruits" of Pattaya without getting married here.

Don't assume that everyone who stands against marrying a whore is a "fun-hater" with "tummy rumblings".

OK, I am trying to find common ground with you. So is it only the guys that marry whores that you are against? Really I don't know why are you so bitter, can you explain this to me, has happened to you?

Further more, I challenge you to read over my 162 posts over the last year and tell me where I have ever said I married a working girl. It is you who is making crazy assumptions.

Now back to topic, married or not there are so many happy guys here in Pattaya, apart from all the other plusses of living in Thailand, if it were not for their caring wives, girlfriends or care-ers they would probably live a very miserable life back home, this has been pointed out by several posters already.