snoop1130 Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Thailand gives emergency use authorisation for Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine: official FILE PHOTO: A staff member places a coronavirus vaccine candidate from Sinovac Biotech Ltd at its booth for display during the 2020 China International Fair for Trade in Services (CIFTIS), following the COVID-19 outbreak, in Beijing, China September 5, 2020. REUTERS/Tingshu Wang BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has given emergency use authorisation for Sinovac Biotech's coronavirus vaccine, a senior official told Reuters on Monday. "The FDA has approved or registered Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine for conditional emergency use, effective Feb. 22," FDA deputy secretary-general Surachok Tangwiwat said, adding it was valid for one year. -- © Copyright Reuters 2021-02-22 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1
Popular Post internationalism Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 that was lucky day, just 2 days before import and 3 days before start of vax program. Such slow acting by thai authorities gives impression, that they had questions. Opposite to the story of astrazeneca, which was authorised within a month. Sadly, thailand has very limited choice, but an urgent need for vax for medics. But they should try for the more effective chinese ones - sinopharm beijing, cansino or straight for sputnik 4
Popular Post cyril sneer Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 Is this the vaccine that’s just 50% effective? 3
Popular Post Kiujunn Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 Yes 50.4% But to be honest, according to Instituto Butantán (the number 50.4 came from Brazil), 50.4% is how much the vaccine will protect from light disease. Protection from severe disease or from death is much higher and quite acceptable (i cannot remember the numbers). And this is what counts. Instituto Butantán can be trusted. Sinovac cannot be trusted. That is the problem. Every other vaccine producing company is more trustworthy than Sinovac. Sinopharm, Cansino, Sputnik ... all more or less respectable. 7 2
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 Desperate people do desperate things and this is a very irresponsible because the evidence is still not established. IMO the selection of Sinovac product will not support the recovery of Thailand's tourism sector. Thailand has not even announced target group for vaccine so who knows who will get the vaccine? Other countries have priority list of the people most likely to get sick- old people and health care workers. One would expect that old people would be first priority especially if we believe all the hype about how Thailand values old people and the other nonsense promotional garbage we read from Thailand "experts". Sinovac only released its data February 4, 2021 in respect to safety for 60 year old+. According to the published info, Phase-I and Phase-II clinical trials by Sinovac included 422 adults aged 60 years and older in Renqiu city, North China's Hebei Province between May and June 2020. A Sinovac's findings were released in the Lancet medical journal on 4- Feb. Not very reassuring for me. If they are desperate for vaccine they should use Oxford AZ vaccine since it is proven to work in the UK, even if it means swallowing their pride and asking for help. 7
Popular Post misterjames Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 I wonder who will profit from this Chinese deal? notice they didn't want to join covax and rather this sinovax over astrazenica maybe because nobody is allowed to profit from it? no brown envelopes in it for them? 6 2
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 Desperate people do desperate things and this is a very irresponsible because the evidence is still not established. IMO the selection of Sinovac product will not support the recovery of Thailand's tourism sector. Thailand has not even announced target group for vaccine so who knows who will get the vaccine? Other countries have priority list of the people most likely to get sick- old people and health care workers. One would expect that old people would be first priority especially if we believe all the hype about how Thailand values old people and the other nonsense promotional garbage we read from Thailand "experts". Sinovac only released its data (Lancet Journal) February 4, 2021 in respect to safety for 60 year old+. According to the published info, Phase-I and Phase-II clinical trials by Sinovac included 422 adults aged 60 years and older in Renqiu city, North China's Hebei Province between May and June 2020. Not very reassuring for me. If they are desperate for vaccine they should use Oxford AZ vaccine since it is proven to work in the UK, even if it means swallowing their pride and asking for help. 5
Captain_Bob Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 And the first guinea pig to get a photo-op much needed boost of voter confidence is...
RichardColeman Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Captain_Bob said: And the first guinea pig to get a photo-op much needed boost of voter confidence is... Question is will 'HE' still look the same 2 weeks after taking it ! 1
Wiggy Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Captain_Bob said: And the first guinea pig to get a photo-op much needed boost of voter confidence is... There’s no way he’ll get the Chinese one. Remember that there are 50,000 or so doses of AZ on the way here, or already here. Who do you think they are for? Not Joe Public, that’s for sure. 2
Popular Post rabas Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 22, 2021 8 hours ago, cyril sneer said: Is this the vaccine that’s just 50% effective? It used to be. There is a continuing stream of new variants like UK, South Africa, and Brazil's P.1 that all vaccines must deal with. The US just reported the first 'recombinant' event between the UK and a new California strain. This opens the door to the next stage, virus-vaccine wars! Although ultimately man will win, Sinovac will likely again come up short. Remember, Sinovac's vaccine is what China is selling overseas. Recall China's belated warnings about the virus as it bought up up the world's masks. The CCP frequently demonstrates its lack of interest in the world's well being. Do you want their vaccine? 4 2 1 2
khwaibah Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Prayut to get first Sinovac shot despite claiming it is unsuitable for those above 60 National Feb 22. 2021 https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402914?fbclid=IwAR2u-_vdCYYdR9UVFus_CAjYA2tGbOdPQzmwK2paMMv8Z3SvoY7yWgE5-Ao 1
AlfHuy Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: Question is will 'HE' still look the same 2 weeks after taking it ! Just another leg growing but who cares. 2
AlfHuy Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, khwaibah said: Prayut to get first Sinovac shot despite claiming it is unsuitable for those above 60 National Feb 22. 2021 https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402914?fbclid=IwAR2u-_vdCYYdR9UVFus_CAjYA2tGbOdPQzmwK2paMMv8Z3SvoY7yWgE5-Ao Is he smiling about or at the PM?
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 What's the hurry. Vaccine not due to arrive for another day? I'm sure the Thai FDA jsut happened to conclude their rigourous review process a day early. Bravo. 1 2
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: "The FDA has approved or registered Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine for conditional emergency use, effective Feb. 22," WOW!! that was lucky, imagine ordering all that medication then not getting approval .......................LOL 3 2
Geoffggi Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, khwaibah said: Prayut to get first Sinovac shot despite claiming it is unsuitable for those above 60 National Feb 22. 2021 https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402914?fbclid=IwAR2u-_vdCYYdR9UVFus_CAjYA2tGbOdPQzmwK2paMMv8Z3SvoY7yWgE5-Ao How do we know it's the Sinovac vaccine he will be getting ?? /...............LOL 2 1
Popular Post 10baht Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 The whole point people are missing is transmission of the virus is not prevented by those vaccinated. Thus, quarantine will continue and no tourists until Thailand achieves herd immunity. 1 3
Popular Post DLock Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Wiggy said: There’s no way he’ll get the Chinese one. Remember that there are 50,000 or so doses of AZ on the way here, or already here. Who do you think they are for? Not Joe Public, that’s for sure. That 50,000...not coming. It was all a PR stunt that got caught up in the European short deliveries. The other AZ ordered from the EU? Not coming, until Siam Bioscience are able to produce the vaccine in Thailand. Until then, it's Sinovac. Should have joined COVAX. 3
Popular Post spermwhale Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 They've been dawdling on approving vaccines for import because they've staked their hopes in a Thai company making it's own vaccine. As that is becoming increasingly unlikely, they are now trying to get whatever they can. But you always knew they would go for the Chinese vaccine the clinical trials of which have not been peer reviewed. 6
hioctane Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, misterjames said: I wonder who will profit from this Chinese deal? notice they didn't want to join covax and rather this sinovax over astrazenica maybe because nobody is allowed to profit from it? no brown envelopes in it for them? Joining Covax means middle income countries (like Thailand) foot the bill for the whole program and they have no choice on which vaccine they get. They could potentially get a better deal for the vaccine they want if they negotiate directly. 41 minutes ago, 10baht said: The whole point people are missing is transmission of the virus is not prevented by those vaccinated. Thus, quarantine will continue and no tourists until Thailand achieves herd immunity. Source? Again, this has not been proven either way. 1
hotchilli Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 11 hours ago, cyril sneer said: Is this the vaccine that’s just 50% effective? Yep.
Popular Post DLock Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, hioctane said: Joining Covax means middle income countries (like Thailand) foot the bill for the whole program and they have no choice on which vaccine they get. They could potentially get a better deal for the vaccine they want if they negotiate directly. So, how has that worked out for them? Failed dealing directly with anyone but the Chinese and paying more than other vaccines. So your "potentially" better deal failed miserably... ...and you may want to read up on COVAX - middle income countries are not footing the bill, but they also don't get it for free - which being a middle income country is correct. The USA has pumped $4bill in and the UK has pumped $734million...and given Thailands lack of success, they would have benefitted from that. 4
shackleton Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Well at least its a step in the right direction let's get people vaccinated If you are not keen on the vaccine being used don't take it There will be other types coming soon
fondue zoo Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 The Philippines allowed emergency use yesterday too but not for their health workers due to its approximate 50% efficacy.
mommysboy Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, rabas said: It used to be. There is a continuing stream of new variants like UK, South Africa, and Brazil's P.1 that all vaccines must deal with. The US just reported the first 'recombinant' event between the UK and a new California strain. This opens the door to the next stage, virus-vaccine wars! Although ultimately man will win, Sinovac will likely again come up short. Remember, Sinovac's vaccine is what China is selling overseas. Recall China's belated warnings about the virus as it bought up up the world's masks. The CCP frequently demonstrates its lack of interest in the world's well being. Do you want their vaccine? Yes, I'd take it if it was offered to me. Ultimately my goal is to prevent me from becoming seriously ill from covid19 in the next year. I believe it would help.
johnarth Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 yes I think the general and his side kick should both be the first to take the Chinese vaccine as a jester of good will to their commrads 1
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, hioctane said: Joining Covax means middle income countries (like Thailand) foot the bill for the whole program and they have no choice on which vaccine they get. They could potentially get a better deal for the vaccine they want if they negotiate directly. Source? Again, this has not been proven either way. Not true at all. Many western countries are part of Covax and have also negotiated additional supply contracts. As per Covax "Self-financing countries and economies participating in the Facility can request vaccine doses sufficient to vaccinate between 10-50% of their populations. The amount they pay into the Facility will reflect the number of doses they have requested. For these countries the Facility serves as a critical insurance policy that will significantly increase their chances of securing vaccines, even if their own bilateral deals fail. And by pooling resources through the Facility, participating countries and economies are essentially helping to increase the world’s chances of bringing about COVID-19 vaccines as quickly as possible, and in the quantities that we need." COVAX acts as a platform that will support the research, development and manufacturing of a wide range of COVID-19 vaccine candidates, and negotiate their pricing. All participating countries, regardless of income levels, will have equal access to these vaccines once they are developed. Thailand has an economic interest in making sure its neighbors are vaccinated. Consider the impact of the border situation where poor Cambodians and Burmese come in. Thailand was unable to negotiate proper supply contracts and instead in desperation will rely on an unproven vaccine from China. It seems that every western country was able to out negotiate Thailand to secure vaccine. Amazing what happens when western based companies with strict anti bribery/anti corruption rules are running the show. The USA, UK, EU, North Asia, Singapore the Gulf States and Canada will be mostly vaccinated within the next 6 months. Australia, the South pacific, wealthier parts of LATAM and the Caribbean should be fully vaccinated by Christmas. I doubt Thailand will have made much progress by then. No national vaccine strategy means that Thailand will be on the red card list for many countries. It will be like ebola in the Congo - No one will want to visit. 6 1
Popular Post Jimbo2014 Posted February 23, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2021 Right - now that the first vaccine in Thailand story is out of the way can private hospitals please start stocking the pfizer vaccine? 3
John Drake Posted February 23, 2021 Posted February 23, 2021 11 hours ago, misterjames said: I wonder who will profit from this Chinese deal? notice they didn't want to join covax and rather this sinovax over astrazenica maybe because nobody is allowed to profit from it? no brown envelopes in it for them? People on this forum keep saying the CP guy owns 14 percent.
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