Chiang Mai: Haze health warning: "Worst in world" again and dire conditions set to continue all week

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, Aussiepeter said:

Don't sweat it, I get slagged off all the time by those on here that are living in denial, for telling the truth about C Mai - but then I got throat cancer (cured by radiation Oz) as a non-smoker from breathing the wonderful "fresh air" in C Mai for over twenty years. Only done one really clever thing in my life & that was selling our beautiful house in Saraphi in 2013 and moving to Oz, where our family breathes pure clean air 24/7. I loved C Mai when I first moved there in 1992 - it's horrid for 8 or 9 months a year now & getting worse  - anyone who says it isn't is on another planet.

Must admit I am seriously considering moving to the North of Scotland for similar reasons........longer term, heat and security of water supply will make Scotland ever more popular

[RichardColeman]

Imagine being stuck in the haze in your quarantine hotel for 14 days

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Imagine being stuck in the haze in your quarantine hotel for 14 days

Got about 10 families opposite us stuck in a quarantine hotel....one family has four kids!!!...........we wave to them every day........poor souls. 

[Chill27]

I've come to the conclusion that Thais love breathing in smoke.

Currently in an Issan village and aside from unbearable noise pollution from thumping "music", smoke is everywhere, especially after 5pm, cooking time.

Just returned from Koh Samui and even there, the beautiful scenery inland was constantly covered in a smoke haze.

I'm allergic to smoke, so it's making me seriously reassess where to settle down for the rest of my days.

 

[Yom]

5 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Scotland ever more popular

Must be really beautiful there.

Somewhere near the Alps would be nice too.

But this is a no-no.

 

[Golden Triangle]

I really do feel sorry for you lot living up in Chiang Mai & Chiang Rai, the air here in Pattaya ain't the best but so much better than yours, maybe you need someone, a wife, a girlfriend, a Thai friend even, to start a clean air movement that involves mostly Thais, get local TV & radio involved, then once it gets going the farang husbands and boyfriends can join in. 

This pathetic excuse of a government take no notice whatsoever.

[spidermike007]

The people should be asking questions of the leadership. What are they doing anyway, besides attempting to put down protests?

1. How can you demonstrate to us, that you are up for the task of leadership?
2. What are you doing to prove that you can and will protect us against Covid? You failed miserably with the second wave. How are we to trust you now?
3. Instead of contact tracing us, how about we trace you, and make sure you are doing your job? How about you report to us daily, and let us know how you are handling and containing this epidemic that happened on your watch? Stop talking, and start working, and doing your jobs.
4. Why did you not prevent this? How did you allow these corrupt officials to let infected people in? Why is nobody in a position of power being arrested? Why aren't heads rolling?
5. Why are you not making the vaccines more of a priority? Why isn't the army sacrificing some of its huge budget for the people? 
6. What are you planning on offering the people in the way of assistance, so they can survive this disaster you helped create?
7. Can you demonstrate to us why you think Anutin, who has no background whatsoever in the filed of health, is up for the task of tackling this emergency?
8. And why are you shutting down so many businesses, yet you allowed ground zero to remain open to people coming and going since this latest outbreak happened, only closing the province down yesterday? Why such bad decisions, and such extreme incompetence? How do you justify that? How do you explain that? Thousands of cases emanated from Samut province. You knew that would happen. 
9. How about a compulsory level of competence and experience, for all future administration appointments to key positions?
10. Why have you been so hard on foreigners, making it so incredibly difficult to fly in, yet so lax on the borders?
11. Why should we allow you to remain in power? What have you done lately to deserve that power? What are you doing to clean up the air? I have ten or fifteen ideas. Do you have any?

[Yom]

13 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

you need someone, a wife, a girlfriend, a Thai friend even, to start a clean air movement that involves mostly Thais

This is the point. Well, well, well...

It's embarrassing but I have no skills to do so.

But thanks very much, Golden Triangle.

[Golden Triangle]

20 minutes ago, Yom said:

This is the point. Well, well, well...

It's embarrassing but I have no skills to do so.

But thanks very much, Golden Triangle.

I hope you weren't being sarcastic and I don't think you were, I have spent some time up there with the Mrs, the air then was okay, so obviously the right time of year, but I really do feel bad for you lot, I think it's a beautiful part of the world hence my forum name and picture, Dhara Devi's cake shop was so WOW, take care all of you.

Edited March 11, 2021 by Golden Triangle
To add clarity ????

[Yom]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The people should be asking questions of the leadership.

Yes.

The THAI people.

Thanks for your comprehensive analysis, spidermike007.

Really, and from the heart.

One again: only the Thai people might succeed,

I suppose/I think/I could imagine...

We have a 1 % chance?

 

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[Yom]

14 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

take care all of you.

Thanks, GoldenTriangle.   -  There are millions surviving in this dirty air.

By the way, I'm not sarcastic. It's only my restricted code 'to perform'.

 

19 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I think it's a beautiful part of the world

And so many great people. Millions? - They don't know what's going on.   

(some/most?) People in our village are laughing about my whimsy.

But Scotland or the Alps region might be an alternative to realise.

 

 

 

[Golden Triangle]

3 minutes ago, Yom said:

Thanks, GoldenTriangle.   -  There are millions surviving in this dirty air.

By the way, I'm not sarcastic. It's only my restricted code 'to perform'.

 

And so many great people. Millions? - They don't know what's going on.   

(some/most?) People in our village are laughing about my whimsy.

But Scotland or the Alps region might be an alternative to realise.

 

 

 

Scotland is very nice, I lived in Edinburgh for a few years & had a girlfriend with contacts as far north as Aberdeen, a beautiful country, bloody cold in winter though ???? The Alps, only ever flown over them, mind you I did have fun in Bavaria many years ago as a young squaddie ????????????????

 

[Ron jeremy]

Still waiting for Britmantoo to chime in telling us it’s not so bad this year and what a great place it is, and he made a good choice, , haven’t heard from guitar man for a while either ,rumour is he died of lung cancer! RIP

[Patong2021]

Maybe the  protestors in Europe, Australia and North America can protest this instead of their hypocritical protests they make about western  automobile?  I think Thailand is one of the worst offenders in the world in this regard, joining Indonesia, Brazil, India and China as the environmental hypocrites of the world.

Everyone  angry at western countries  for not making schedule for Paris accords, but here is a simple thing Thailand could do, and refuses to do and  is never ever sanctioned.

 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

On 3/10/2021 at 9:47 PM, hotchilli said:

Every year the same issue.... time the PM got all the governors in along with headmen, farmers and company owners.... and sprayed them with sanitiser to show his disgust.

That'll do it.

Alcohol spray to clean those dirty filthy words coming out of those mouths.....the 2021 version of the bar of soap to suck on....

[TigerandDog]

Those readings are absolute BS and not even close to the real readings. I've been in CM for the past 2 days and the readings were between 330 - 350. Today before I returned home to Fang District they were 228.

[Yom]

2 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

not even close to the real readings.

                                                                                             high. 

                                                                                  too

                                                                       far

In any case, the numbers are

It's a big field with these readings... First, are you talking about Pm2.5 or AQI?

Then, different place and/or different time is crucial.

Better lean back, relax and have a look at some links.

https://www.airnow.gov/aqi/aqi-calculator/     https://aqicn.org/here     https://www.iqair.com/

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/     http://berkeleyearth.org/air-pollution-overview/

https://www.epa.gov/pm-pollution/particulate-matter-pm-basics

PM2.5 228 ug/m3          AQI  228  ~   

~   AQI  278                    178 PM2.5 ug/m3

           

 

 

[jak2002003]

On 3/11/2021 at 11:14 AM, brommers said:

Until the Thai population become activists and start demonstrating & demanding action from the local and national government there will be no solution. Many locals are totally complicit and untouchable, and big agri-business does not give a damn. We can study the numbers until doomsday and still there will be no improvement. 

They don't care. Humans are filthy and lazy. Of course there are exceptions, but they are in the minority. 

 

My neighbours and people in the village always burning, driving drunk, throwing plastic rubbish everywhere, chopping down beautiful old tress to get the wood, killing wild birds for fun, dumping building waste and fridges in the jungle, polluting the rivers and lakes, using harmful pesticides and all the rest. People here know the dangers of pollution but just don't care about their family or own health.

[Ron jeremy]

18 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

They don't care. Humans are filthy and lazy. Of course there are exceptions, but they are in the minority. 

 

My neighbours and people in the village always burning, driving drunk, throwing plastic rubbish everywhere, chopping down beautiful old tress to get the wood, killing wild birds for fun, dumping building waste and fridges in the jungle, polluting the rivers and lakes, using harmful pesticides and all the rest. People here know the dangers of pollution but just don't care about their family or own health.

Sounds like a great place! Paradise!

not any different anywhere else in Thailand!

[hmficc]

Life in the bowl.????????????????????

[Yom]

Mar 13

“Let’s get to know the PM2.5!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfYPnC-asKo

Thai with English Subtitles   -   3:09

                               *********************

 

 

 

 

[David T Pike]

And they still lock people up for VAPING???? ????

[Yom]

2 hours ago, David T Pike said:

And they still lock people up for VAPING????

Who/where/when/why?

Don't you think that's a different subject?

I don't know anyone who would have been locked up

for vaping or burning up north, that's too bad.

 

[rudi49jr]

On 3/11/2021 at 3:52 AM, mybeat said:

Was planning on going to Chang Mai for a week end of this month, now it seems like it's not going to happen.

 

Anyone knows when will it end?

Whenever the rainy season starts this year, probably somewhere in May.........

[David T Pike]

13 hours ago, Yom said:

Who/where/when/why?

Don't you think that's a different subject?

I don't know anyone who would have been locked up

for vaping or burning up north, that's too bad.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/frenchwoman-deported-for-vaping-70535.php#23J8CxlSukh1WTlo.99

Edited March 15, 2021 by David T Pike
link

[Yom]

Thanks for the link. Almost brandnew from Phuket, Feb 2019.

But I don't see any connection with the OP:

Chiang Mai: Haze health warning: "Worst in world" again and dire conditions set to continue all week

[TigerandDog]

On 3/12/2021 at 8:38 PM, Yom said:

                                                                                             high. 

                                                                                  too

                                                                       far

In any case, the numbers are

It's a big field with these readings... First, are you talking about Pm2.5 or AQI?

Then, different place and/or different time is crucial.

Better lean back, relax and have a look at some links.

https://www.airnow.gov/aqi/aqi-calculator/     https://aqicn.org/here     https://www.iqair.com/

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/     http://berkeleyearth.org/air-pollution-overview/

https://www.epa.gov/pm-pollution/particulate-matter-pm-basics

PM2.5 228 ug/m3          AQI  228  ~   

~   AQI  278                    178 PM2.5 ug/m3

           

 

 

they were pm 2.5 readings. The first was taken at Mae Rim, the 2nd at Tha Sala. The sad thing is where I live in CM province, the readings are even higher thatn those that I posted

[Yom]

4 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

the readings are even higher than those that I posted

Sorry, TigerandDog, I didn't have any doubt what you have written.

This night the PM2.5 numbers up north were decreasing, but the

whole last week was extremly bad, 'far too high'.

[sqwakvfr]

Beijing AQI: Beijing Real-time Air Quality Index (AQI).

812

 

It could be worse.  

[Yom]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

It could be worse.

Well, you're right. But today in Beijing it's primarily the leftover of a sand storm...

As a matter of fact already 'better'.

The main pollutant has been PM10. Not sooo dangerous.