What has this site done?

[AhFarangJa]

I thought Prayut had finally had enough.

[polpott]

10 minutes ago, AlfHuy said:

Fake news.

 

It was Donald. He has now much more free time to get his hands on TV webpage.

I was tempted to mention him but I've had my fill of political threads on TV. They seem to be primarily inhabited by trolls. Nice to have a rest from them.

[donnacha]

My guess would be that one individual, annoyed by his treatment, set up monitoring to alert him if a non-Cloudflare IP was ever revealed, even for a minute. He would then have set up his own server to bombard that IP or, more likely, paid a service a few dollars (probably around $50) to do it, most likely using a botnet of hacked servers.

None of this requires skill. Any idiot can find a tutorial on how to do it.

On the other hand, recovering from this sort of attack is relatively easy. You simply flip over to another server, as I described in an earlier post. Some sites even keep a second server running with the latest backup already running and automatically switch to it when their system detects a problem with the first server. The expense is justified because any downtime at all can permanently damage your search engine rankings.

An actual hack is far more damaging but requires far more skill to carry out.

 

[tomazbodner]

56 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Neither of those links - to the home pages of news sites on the broad subject of hacking - were in any way relevant to this discussion.

Again, no other major Invision forum disappears for 3 days. If you get hacked, you simply restore from your last unhacked backup and are online again before almost anyone notices. No complicated dance moves required.

Thank you for wasting two unrecoverable minutes of my life.

 

Ah, so you only look at the homepage. Great research.

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

By whom? A rival forum? Thai government? The Russians?

or the Chinese? or North Korea? it was somebody trying to get some cash back 555

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

i back up all my brilliance on this site so if you need to access it let me know.  

Many are still waiting for another of your Amagedon weather reports. ????

[tomazbodner]

27 minutes ago, donnacha said:

My guess would be that one individual, annoyed by his treatment, set up monitoring to alert him if a non-Cloudflare IP was ever revealed, even for a minute. He would then have set up his own server to bombard that IP or, more likely, paid a service a few dollars (probably around $50) to do it, most likely using a botnet of hacked servers.

None of this requires skill. Any idiot can find a tutorial on how to do it.

On the other hand, recovering from this sort of attack is relatively easy. You simply flip over to another server, as I described in an earlier post. Some sites even keep a second server running with the latest backup already running and automatically switch to it when their system detects a problem with the first server. The expense is justified because any downtime at all can permanently damage your search engine rankings.

An actual hack is far more damaging but requires far more skill to carry out.

 

That I would agree with. This isn't the first time things went down on ThaiVisa, so possibly thinking of a disaster recovery setup could be feasible.

It's not like this kind of thing couldn't happen to TVF hosting company: https://www.zdnet.com/article/ovhcloud-data-centers-engulfed-in-flames/

 

 

[colinneil]

58 minutes ago, anchadian said:

I pity those people who rely and post on TVF 24 hrs a day.

Don't they have better things to do with their life?

Such a shame.  

So you pity me? Can i ask why?

Sadly i do not have better things to do with my life, i only wish i had.

Next time before ridiculing others, stop, think, try asking yourself why that cranky old sod ( colinneil) spends so many hours on here.

Yes it is a shame that i am stuck in a bloody wheelchair, unable to walk/ move.

[jvs]

2 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

i hope they can't find the purple graphics.  

I hope some one finds the arrow!

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

I pity those people who rely and post on TVF 24 hrs a day.

Don't they have better things to do with their life?

Such a shame.  

Does anyone rely on it 24 hours a day? If so, I agree with you.

[sapson]

Burma and Thailand have joined forces to share their wealth of knowledge on human rights and enforce strict monitoring of the internet to discourage the revolting peasants and nosey opinionated westerners ......so down time of this site could be a regular feature.

[Bangkok Barry]

It would be polite, wouldn't it, to have received some kind of explanation from the owners of the site. Apparently they can't be bothered.

[NanLaew]

44 minutes ago, donnacha said:

My guess would be that one individual, annoyed by his treatment, set up monitoring to alert him if a non-Cloudflare IP was ever revealed, even for a minute. He would then have set up his own server to bombard that IP or, more likely, paid a service a few dollars (probably around $50) to do it, most likely using a botnet of hacked servers.

None of this requires skill. Any idiot can find a tutorial on how to do it.

On the other hand, recovering from this sort of attack is relatively easy. You simply flip over to another server, as I described in an earlier post. Some sites even keep a second server running with the latest backup already running and automatically switch to it when their system detects a problem with the first server. The expense is justified because any downtime at all can permanently damage your search engine rankings.

An actual hack is far more damaging but requires far more skill to carry out.

 

 

I can't help but think that will all this technobabble, you're cadging for a job with TV.

[WineOh]

2 hours ago, darksidedog said:

EDIT: It was a malicious DDoS event that caused it, not negligence by TVF.

why did thaivisa lie about it on Facebook then saying it was a standard 'server upgrade'..?

 

Makes your above comment also rather hard to believe tbh.

Edited March 11, 2021 by WineOh

[darksidedog]

7 minutes ago, WineOh said:

why lie about it on Facebook then saying it was a standard 'server upgrade'..?

 

Make you above comment also rather hard to believe tbh.

I said nothing on Facebook, so please don't suggest so.

I am not responsible or connected in any way to the FB part of TVF, nor do I make any official announcements.

Way above my pay grade.

I understand a server upgrade was apparently due and at first, when everyone was in the dark, it was incorrectly assumed this was the reason.

I am not aware of any campaign in TVF to deliberately lie to its members about any issue, technical or otherwise, so please refrain from suggesting such.

[2530Ubon]

13 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Way above my pay grade.

One can get paid...  @colinneilseems like a good candidate. Then again, would you really want to sift through all of our verbal diarrhea? Occasionally I cringe looking back at some of my own posts...

[lopburi3]

25 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

It would be polite, wouldn't it, to have received some kind of explanation from the owners of the site. Apparently they can't be bothered.

Actually they posted that the outage was due to a server upgrade on Tuesday morning ThaiVisa Facebook page for those of us who found that.  When they got a message up on forum website it said in one breath unavaliable and availabe on same page (although obviously not available).  Obviously it continues to be a work in progress as was on and off yesterday.

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, darksidedog said:

EDIT: It was a malicious DDoS event that caused it, not negligence by TVF.

A DDos attack can be prevented by good security protocols. Having a DR site will help with a speedy recovery. PM me if TVF wants some consultancy from a professional company.

Edited March 11, 2021 by FritsSikkink

[RichardColeman]

Whatever they fixed, it was not the pop-ups

[FarFlungFalang]

51 minutes ago, colinneil said:

So you pity me? Can i ask why?

Sadly i do not have better things to do with my life, i only wish i had.

Next time before ridiculing others, stop, think, try asking yourself why that cranky old sod ( colinneil) spends so many hours on here.

Yes it is a shame that i am stuck in a bloody wheelchair, unable to walk/ move.

You might be aware of the term FIGJAM which means if you ask some will tell you how good they are but there are us others that don't need to be asked.

Edited March 11, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[Maliproto]

43 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

It would be polite, wouldn't it, to have received some kind of explanation from the owners of the site. Apparently they can't be bothered.

Why, what do they owe to us, the freebie members?  Perhaps they directed their explanations to the only ones who deserve explanations, i.e. the advertisers who do pay to be here!

[Bangkok Barry]

5 minutes ago, Maliproto said:

51 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

It would be polite, wouldn't it, to have received some kind of explanation from the owners of the site. Apparently they can't be bothered.

Why, what do they owe to us, the freebie members?  Perhaps they directed their explanations to the only ones who deserve explanations, i.e. the advertisers who do pay to be here!

It would be polite, wouldn't it?

[Maliproto]

17 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Whatever they fixed, it was not the pop-ups

Do you pay for your entertainment here?  If you did you wouldn't get the ads!

[lopburi3]

3 minutes ago, Maliproto said:

Why, what do they owe to us, the freebie members?  Perhaps they directed their explanations to the only ones who deserve explanations, i.e. the advertisers who do pay to be here!

Actually the only reason any advertiser pays anything is because of the posters providing free content and readers here - without posters there are no readers and no forum. 

[fdsa]

9 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Whatever they fixed, it was not the pop-ups

fix your browser then

[onebir]

What I want to know is why anyone would bother DDOSing this site.

Unless it was just an extortion attempt, sounds like someone could be p***ed of with (apparently rather harmless?) TVF...

[OJAS]

4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

It was a malicious DDoS event that caused it

Was said "malicious DDoS event" (whatever that might mean) also the cause of the specific issues which have plagued those of us who had been trying to access the site (usually unsuccessfully) through a TOT router for several weeks?

 

[Cake Monster]

3 hours ago, polpott said:

By whom? A rival forum? Thai government? The Russians?

Many DDos events, specially when sustained upon a platform, are from some Individual that has a grudge, and then rents Computer Bot time to inflict what they see as revenge.

[Golden Triangle]

A brief explanation would have been nice, I only found out because I read this thread and came across @darksidedogpost, when can we expect another outage then ? If some of the posts on here are to be believed. ????

[Thujone]

I quite like the present look.

Strange formatting, curious fonts, lots of white space, it's like a website from 20 years ago.

Which in these weird times, could be thought of as the good old days.

And while it was off, I watched The Dirt (biopic of Motley Crue) and Gran Torino, (with an advanced ageing Clint Eastwood). Both enjoyable.

So win/win.