Moonlover Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 11 hours ago, piston broke said: Nope - i was in Tesco's car park - i guess i could have been trying to nick it - the guy who came was only interested in the money..... Just made me reolise how vunerable these "keyless" bikes are ..... . I've never had to use it in anger, but my Aerox has an emergency override system so that I can input the keycode without having the key fob with me. I've committed the sequence to memory and rehearse the procedure once a month or so, so that I'm sure I remember it. Your ADV has a similar routine that it might be worth your while learning. You'll find it in the user manual, starting on page 106. I don't think that your experience indicates that keyless bikes are particularly vulnerable. I doubt if anyone would want to take the risk of being caught summonsing an engineer to a public bike park, with the risk of the owner returning at any moment. And they are certainly not vulnerable to the 'screwdriver and hammer' method used by bike stealers to unlock the steering/ignition. Enjoy your riding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 For a little knowledge and a little money the pass code can be determined if you are in range of the bike when the owner approaches. How do you think thieves the world over steal bikes and cars these days ? As soon as manufacturers bring out this "security" the work around takes a very short time. It is not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, canthai55 said: For a little knowledge and a little money the pass code can be determined if you are in range of the bike when the owner approaches. How do you think thieves the world over steal bikes and cars these days ? As soon as manufacturers bring out this "security" the work around takes a very short time. It is not hard. The range of my key fob, with a good battery, is no more than 2 meters. (I've just tested it) So anyone who wishes to capture the code would have to be standing right next to me. I think I'd be aware of that and wonder just what he's up to. He would then, having produced his cloned fob, have to hang around bike parks in the hope that the same motorcycle turns up one day so that he can nick it soon as the owner has left the park. I think the odds of that happening are pretty long, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Just now, Moonlover said: The range of my key fob, with a good battery, is no more than 2 meters. (I've just tested it) So anyone who wishes to capture the code would have to be standing right next to me. I think I'd be aware of that and wonder just what he's up to. You're assuming his scanner is as insensitive as your m/c receiver. Which isn't the case. As for stealing bikes, often they just load them onto the back of a pickup and drive away. Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said: Buy First Class Insurance. Keep policy valid No market for a stolen Forza - or any big bike here mostly. No one with any sense would buy it if the green book can not be transferred into their name. A Wave - on the other hand - has a ready market in neighboring countries. There is a market simply drive it across a border and sell it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, tlandtday said: There is a market simply drive it across a border and sell it. For a Forza ? 555 And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs - or are you talking dead-of-night-Vigo-load ? Interested to hear about this market for stolen big bikes in neighboring countries Once Upon a Time ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, canthai55 said: And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs Most border guards can be bribed. Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local. There's still hundreds of trucks crossing the border, nobody looks in the back. Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, canthai55 said: For a Forza ? 555 And how - pray tell - do you get it across the border without customs docs - or are you talking dead-of-night-Vigo-load ? Interested to hear about this market for stolen big bikes in neighboring countries Once Upon a Time ... are you joking? how long have you been in thailand or se asia for that matter? or you even in thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 15 hours ago, EdrigoSalvadore said: I have a russian friend here, and he knows a guy who´s selling stolen motorbikes with forged green books, for about half the price a regular motobike. Does he forged the numberplates as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Just now, Ralf001 said: Does he forged the numberplates as well ? Do you really need a number plate? In CM I see plenty of bikes driving around without them. I just stuck the tax disk in my car, only 3 months left, I never go into town, so nobody cares. My misses is worse, no tax, insurance or driving licence, her brother is a police Captain so she doesn't need any documents. Edited May 25, 2021 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy from Kent Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 2:39 PM, ChipButty said: We got paid 50,000 baht to buy a new one What compensation did you give to the boy for stealing the bike? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Do you really need a number plate? In CM I see plenty of bikes driving around without them. Yeah they go hand in hand with the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, tlandtday said: are you joking? how long have you been in thailand or se asia for that matter? or you even in thailand? 17 years here - more around the neighborhood Waves have a market in Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos Forza ? HD ? Ducati - 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local. Yup - just ride your HD - or Duck - or Forza down a winding dirt jungle track - easy I see many locals in Myanmar just dying to own one - 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Anyone know where I can get a set of Knobbys for my bike ? Want to explore some jungle tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 hours ago, canthai55 said: 17 years here - more around the neighborhood Waves have a market in Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos Forza ? HD ? Ducati - 555 https://www.khmermotors.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-maker:motorcycle_maker_ducati/ yeah no ducati in cambodia... probably not in bordering malaysia also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted May 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 12:03 PM, Moonlover said: Their relative rarity would also make them an unattractive steal. That and the fact that they are themselves unattractive. On 3/14/2021 at 12:58 PM, 2 is 1 said: On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said: No market for a stolen Forza - or any big bike here mostly. "Big" "bike" Have you tried to pick one up? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 hours ago, tlandtday said: https://www.khmermotors.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-maker:motorcycle_maker_ducati/ yeah no ducati in cambodia... probably not in bordering malaysia also... Topic is theft of bikes - not bike dealers Changing horses in mid stream ? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 17 hours ago, canthai55 said: Yup - just ride your HD - or Duck - or Forza down a winding dirt jungle track - easy Am looking to buy a Ducati Scrambler to do just that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 As noted, big is too big, no market for it, get insurance with medical will run you around 5000 baht a year? Your helmet has a better chance of being stolen than the bike.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 https://fb.watch/5JoIBGsPF_/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 2:46 PM, jackdd said: If you worry about it, get insurance, more convenient than a lock ???? True about the insurance, if someone wants it they will take it. A short piece of thick chain through the front wheel with a sturdy lock will put-off any chancers wanting to take it. Anyone professional will just lift onto the back of something and take off.. but that ain't so easy with a bike like that. They'll probably give yours a miss and go look for something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 9:48 AM, expatjustice said: Can anyone kindly explain since when a 180,XXX Baht motorcycle is considered expensive? lol a little over 5,000 USD...... I thought a expensive bike would be at least 10k onwards...... since we aren't as rich as you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanwiley Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Buy a Lifan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) I don't recommend disc locks. It made my motorcycle break caliper out of alignment, because someone tried to move my motorcycle (by pulling out of parking spot while the lock was attached. I recommend using a thick chain and lock. Edited May 26, 2021 by The Theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 2:59 PM, ChipButty said: Is there an alarm on that bike? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 4:12 PM, xtrnuno41 said: My problem with those is that I'm often parked in a line of bikes where I can't GET to the front to unlock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 2:54 PM, Andy from Kent said: Have you considered buying a bike that won't cause you so much stress? Oversized look at me , when roads busy you will sit still like a vehicle to big for Pattaya roads or lil moobaans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland32 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 23 hours ago, BritManToo said: Most border guards can be bribed. Or you could probably drive it down a track in the jungle if you're a local. There's still hundreds of trucks crossing the border, nobody looks in the back. I do taxis over border and go shopping nobody looks in boot either cases of Beer Lao ez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 11:15 AM, canthai55 said: A Wave - on the other hand - has a ready market in neighboring countries. Plus, if not locked to a solid object, most of the 125cc bikes and scooters can easily be picked up by two people (or one strong mother), placed in a truck-bed, and made to disappear. All good advice by canthai55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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