EU rebuffs UK calls to ship AstraZeneca COVID vaccines from Europe

[candide]

54 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

The fun thing is what will be a win-win negotiation, European style, is that the UK has no ambassador in the EU. 

 

So we have no proper discussion channel. 

 

... Fortunately the "former ambassador to the EU" is helping patch things up 

 

Go Dutch? UK and EU may share Netherlands Covid vaccine supplies to ease tensions
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/23/uk-moves-to-ease-tensions-with-eu-over-covid-vaccine-exports

 

 

Other points:

• Boris Johnson has privately urged his own ministers to dial down any tit-for-tat language over the row
• France and Germany continue to press Brussels to be firmer on exports.
• On Thursday, EU leaders will discuss whether the commission should be granted new powers to seize control of distribution and production in EU territory.
• Raab is expected to speak to EU foreign ministers in Brussels on the sidelines of the Nato meeting in Brussels on Tuesday.
• French Europe minister “This must be the strategy of a Europe that moves faster and defends its interests"

 

 

With a little pressure, all's well that ends well, we are going to have a win-win and a lot of handshakes. 

 

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Of course, they will make a compromise!

[vinny41]

57 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

The fun thing is what will be a win-win negotiation, European style, is that the UK has no ambassador in the EU. 

 

So we have no proper discussion channel. 

 

... Fortunately the "former ambassador to the EU" is helping patch things up 

 

Go Dutch? UK and EU may share Netherlands Covid vaccine supplies to ease tensions
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/23/uk-moves-to-ease-tensions-with-eu-over-covid-vaccine-exports

 

 

Other points:

• Boris Johnson has privately urged his own ministers to dial down any tit-for-tat language over the row
• France and Germany continue to press Brussels to be firmer on exports.
• On Thursday, EU leaders will discuss whether the commission should be granted new powers to seize control of distribution and production in EU territory.
• Raab is expected to speak to EU foreign ministers in Brussels on the sidelines of the Nato meeting in Brussels on Tuesday.
• French Europe minister “This must be the strategy of a Europe that moves faster and defends its interests"

 

 

With a little pressure, all's well that ends well, we are going to have a win-win and a lot of handshakes. 

 

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Win WIn for who If you think its going to be a win win for the EU suggest you think again The word on the Grapevine is Boris has been told in to uncertain terms No surrender to the EU and if you do start looking for a new position 

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

Win WIn for who If you think its going to be a win win for the EU suggest you think again The word on the Grapevine is Boris has been told in to uncertain terms No surrender to the EU and if you do start looking for a new position 

sorry I think British pragmatism has taken over ...

 

Some extremists will no doubt be disappointed, but right now we are best pals again, and I believe it's for the best.

 

 

[david555]

On 3/23/2021 at 4:03 AM, candide said:

Actually it could get more, provided it may want to (the EU may be just happy to get the expected deliveries). The strategic problem of UK is the policy to extend the gap between first and second jab to 12 weeks, while not storing second jabs.That leaves only a narrow margin of gap extension.

 

In case of reciprocal retaliations (which is not a scenario I advocate), UK's strategic problem is that around 12 million people (among the most at risk categories) have received a first dose of Pfizer BioNtech vaccine and most of them are waiting for their second dose. Strategically, UK cannot afford not to get the second jab. For the EU, only the first jab is at risk. Therefore, UK cannot afford to turn down an offer which would only (for some time) guarantee the supply of second jabs.

That is same but even bigger problem for E.U. as they have 27 countrys to have enough supply to save up to start a complete vaccination with no more than maximum tim in between shot 1 and shot 2..... they have moe people to service it to than good 60 million U.K. ones ....hence their hunger for supply and hence the export ban....

[ukrules]

On 3/22/2021 at 6:39 AM, Hi from France said:

you really think the EU signed a contract with "UK first" all over it ?

Of course not, but AstraZeneca certainly did.