Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Topic title says it all really. The beast has decided to put on the light and limit engine revs to about 2,500, just over 200,000km on the clock. Any bright ideas for a simple fix before I get the man in? "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Ralf001 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 I'd change the MAP sensor. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/map-sensor-ford-ranger-2006-2009-2-mazda-bt-50-50-2006-2009-i459276214.html 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 Yeah, a splash of Mr Google is pointing at the MAP sensor. "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 Well the beastie is out, easy to get at on the Ranger. Engine plastic cover, 2 x 14mm nuts holding a cover plate and 1 x 10mm bolt holding the sensor. Looks like the Lazada one is the right chap. Hmmm, I think I see the problem. Can these chaps be cleaned?? With what?? "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 I cleaned most of the lumps off with a toothpick and washed gently with petrol and a soft brush. Dropped it back in, cleared the code and the engine runs (always a good result). Test drive postponed because the weather looks iffy, if it stops I don't want to get soaked and 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Yellowtail Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Crossy said: I cleaned most of the lumps off with a toothpick and washed gently with petrol and a soft brush. Dropped it back in, cleared the code and the engine runs (always a good result). Test drive postponed because the weather looks iffy, if it stops I don't want to get soaked and Good job! Brake cleaner might work better than petrol....
Popular Post Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Good job! Brake cleaner might work better than petrol.... You can apparently get special sensor cleaner, petrol was in stock. 2 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Yellowtail Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Crossy said: You can apparently get special sensor cleaner, petrol was in stock. Nothing like fixing something for free... 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Nothing like fixing something for free... Absolutely the best price. "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 I use this... of Country of Use and Brands change... but one thing to be careful of is to keep away from Alchol type cleansers due to the possible water per cent content... 1 1
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Crossy said: Absolutely the best price. I used to buy a good bit of stuff and hire contractors at at work. We always got three quotes for everything. I love whne thye asked me for the target price. I'd always give my standard answer: The target price is zero, and while you may not be able to hit it, the closer you can get to it the better. 2 1 1
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 another concern is never try mechanical cleaning, as the fine element within will be destroyed if you accidentally rub that fine wire element. Notice the aerosol has that fine tubing which helps really focus the product, without physical contact... 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 Yeah, I was very careful with my toothpick (under magnifier) keeping it outside the actual sensor area and swilling petrol around to remove the gunge. If it's busted it's busted easy enough to get a replacement. We shall see how it drives. 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Once you @Crossy have Cleaned the MAP Sensor... next is to look closely again at your aircleaner box, in case the foam etc type Box seal has been compromised, thereby letting in that dirt you've just cleaned off... I say this as one time after getting my car back from the mechanics, they had not fitted it true and straight in the grooves of the main chamber (I of course didn't see it until the year later when I removed the filter myself, and found the 'damage' ) 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 I must say I thought the oily gloop on the sensor was the result of EGR rather than an iffy air cleaner. Will definitely check that the cleaner box is good. 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Crossy said: I must say I thought the oily gloop on the sensor was the result of EGR rather than an iffy air cleaner. Will definitely check that the cleaner box is good. But you MAP should be placed well back on the aircleaner end of the Intake Tube rather than the throttle body end. Only gunk ever comes near an Intake Tube is the PCV gunk that only gets as far as the vicinity of the Intake Resonator box assy,. which is closer to the Throttle Body assy ( and downwind) The only time I've ever seen PCV gloop get near an aircleaner element, was on a 40 years old Carby car, when the PCV tube was generally routed to the outer shell cover of the old Aircleaners for carbies
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, tifino said: But you MAP should be placed well back on the aircleaner end of the Intake Tube The Ranger MAP is on the manifold right next to the engine after the turbo and intercooler. EDIT Here. 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crossy said: The Ranger MAP is on the manifold right next to the engine after the turbo and intercooler. well that's certainly a lot different since the old 92/93 model that I was aware of... seems the location change occurred some time after the 2001 model... 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 There IS a sensor on the air-cleaner which I'm assuming is the MAF. 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 I must admit I'm actually enjoying messing around with this stuff (despite me doing a local out of a few Baht), it has been a LONG time... 2 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
tifino Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Crossy said: There IS a sensor on the air-cleaner which I'm assuming is the MAF. yes you're right there... just switched the brain on to realise many 'turbo' engines have both a MAP and a MAF - whereas a non-turbo usually has a MAP or a MAF... 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 A short test drive seems to be OK, I'll give it a longer run tomorrow (got to go to the farm shop for creature food). Unfortunately Madam being in hospital means she cannot see her "crazy farang husband" once again fixing something technical and demonstrating that he is in fact useful to have around as well as being the proverbial ATM. 2 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
canthai55 Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 Check which brand is being sold by Lazada et al - compare against OEM Foto shows a Bosch - most likely much better quality than a cheap imported one. Altho' the cheap import may be made in the same country as the Bosch, quality will be markedly different. 1
Crossy Posted April 9, 2021 Author Posted April 9, 2021 If I do have to get a new one and the seller shows a photo of a Bosch unit and sends me something else it goes straight back as "not as the photo". Been there, got the t-shirt!! 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Crossy Posted April 10, 2021 Author Posted April 10, 2021 FAIL!! ???? Sadly the longer test run resulted in the same error, plus another related error. Looks like the MAP sensor is shot ???? Have to order a new one ???? "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Yellowtail Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Even if this does not work, it is great stuff to have around... 1
whaleboneman Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 Are your air filter and intercooler clean? 1
Crossy Posted April 10, 2021 Author Posted April 10, 2021 1 minute ago, whaleboneman said: Are your air filter and intercooler clean? Air cleaner was the first place I went, not perfect but clean enough. "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Yellowtail Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 I bet an '06 Ranger is worth as much now as it was ten years ago given the rise in market share Ford has enjoyed. They're still good looking too. Id yours two-tone?
Crossy Posted April 10, 2021 Author Posted April 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: They're still good looking too. Id yours two-tone? Does black and mud count? "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
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