danielcondo Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 12:07 PM, bkk_bwana said: I took the oath last week. It was seven months after the MOI interview. They congratulated me, told me and us that having taken the oath I was now a Thai citizen. He said that the naturalization certificate would take about three months to be signed off, that I would have to go back and pick it up and then visit the Khet for my ID card, and then go to the local police and Chaengwattana to cancel all other documents. Total time, four years, eight months; it will probably be five by the time I get the certificate back.Note that he said you don't have to wait for your ID card or the announcement in the Royal Gazette to be Thai. You are Thai when you have taken the oath. However, we all know that it is the documentation that you need. Congrats !! exactly the same situation for me , hopefully we can get the ID's before the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khongaeng Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Last week when applying for a visa, I came across a situation where having Thai citizenship might cause some problems when applying for a visa to another country at the respective embassy in Thailand, and I am curious if any of you Thai citizens have encountered this issue and found work arounds. The situation is this: Applying for a visa when more favorable terms (length of visa or price) are available to passport holders of your original nationality. However, applying for the visa at the embassy as a foreigner requires you to submit copies of your Thai visa and work permit. These documents, of course, would not exist if you were a Thai citizen. Have you just gone through the visa application process as a Thai, or did you somehow use a combination of your Thai ID card with your foreign passport to convince the embassy to allow you to use your foreign passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 In such case as you mention above, I applied and traveled as a Thai. The countries were China and Iran.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualtrough Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The TM30 issue is much in the news lately and I am still as confused as ever about how it works. At my non-Chaengwattana branch this topic has never come up, even when I renew my visa/WP or do a 90 day. Anyone know if a history of being fined for failure to report could impact a citizenship application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david143 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) TM30 1 hour ago, qualtrough said: The TM30 issue is much in the news lately and I am still as confused as ever about how it works. At my non-Chaengwattana branch this topic has never come up, even when I renew my visa/WP or do a 90 day. Anyone know if a history of being fined for failure to report could impact a citizenship application? citizenship Application is followed by your Yellow Book, i kept my same address as Per in Yellow book and in TM30/90Day. for this sh**t i am not traveling abroad. anyways i will wait for travel abroad until Thai Passport will be in my hand. But in citizenship process immigration part is only to verify visa details and sit in interview meeting panel as a member. All process of verification is done by SB. While you are on Visa try to use same address of your Yellow book in immigration puzzles, which is TM30 and TM47 90days goodluck Edited August 29, 2019 by david143 addd more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post echrist Posted September 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just to update all of you on my citizenship progress....name published in the RG on Aug. 15 and picked up my citizenship documents on Friday Aug. 30. At some point this week, I'll make a trip the local khet to attempt to get my Thai ID card. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthemoon Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, echrist said: Just to update all of you on my citizenship progress....name published in the RG on Aug. 15 and picked up my citizenship documents on Friday Aug. 30. At some point this week, I'll make a trip the local khet to attempt to get my Thai ID card. Congratulations! How long did the whole process take for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/28/2019 at 11:27 AM, danielcondo said: Congrats !! exactly the same situation for me , hopefully we can get the ID's before the end of the year Good luck, that will be very fast from application to ID. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielcondo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 17 hours ago, echrist said: Just to update all of you on my citizenship progress....name published in the RG on Aug. 15 and picked up my citizenship documents on Friday Aug. 30. At some point this week, I'll make a trip the local khet to attempt to get my Thai ID card. Thats great news !!! congrats again, seems like things are speeding up especially after the name has been published in the RG, from previous post seemed like it took over 2 months from the RG to ID 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielcondo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Neeranam said: Good luck, that will be very fast from application to ID. Thanks and yes have our fingers crossed and hoping the current time frame for printing names in the RG stays the same which should be around 3-4 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echrist Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 hours ago, onthemoon said: Congratulations! How long did the whole process take for you? Thanks! About 3 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre168 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 22 hours ago, echrist said: Just to update all of you on my citizenship progress....name published in the RG on Aug. 15 and picked up my citizenship documents on Friday Aug. 30. At some point this week, I'll make a trip the local khet to attempt to get my Thai ID card. Could you kindly share the link for Aug 15-2019 Royal Gazette’s announcement please. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Andre168 said: Could you kindly share the link for Aug 15-2019 Royal Gazette’s announcement please. Thanks. http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2562/E/203/T_0002.PDF Also 22 August (only women). http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2562/D/063/T_0002.PDF Edited September 2, 2019 by GarryP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david143 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 27 August FYIThai Nationality Interviews was held.Sent from my SM-N910C using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david143 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 hours ago, GarryP said: http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2562/E/203/T_0002.PDF Also 22 August (only women). http://www.ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/DATA/PDF/2562/D/063/T_0002.PDF 173 Foreigners very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, david143 said: 173 Foreigners very nice Seems this is outpacing the monthly moi interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabbaGabbaHey Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Seems this is outpacing the monthly moi interviews. They usually group several months into one batch, this one might be for 4-5 months of MOI interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, david143 said: 173 Foreigners very nice Makes me wonder why mine is taking so long. I was told in november 2017 that there were 300 ahead of me in the process. I just called the MOI, and all they could tell me was "soon". At least there doesn't seem to be problem, unless he didn't like being hassled ( ie having to look for file) and put me to the bottom of the pile. How many here phoned or went to the MoI to check on the progress? Do you think it helped or hindered your application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Makes me wonder why mine is taking so long. I was told in november 2017 that there were 300 ahead of me in the process. I just called the MOI, and all they could tell me was "soon". At least there doesn't seem to be problem, unless he didn't like being hassled ( ie having to look for file) and put me to the bottom of the pile. How many here phoned or went to the MoI to check on the progress? Do you think it helped or hindered your application? Going back a few years now, when matters were first transferred from the Ministry of the Interior near Sanam Luang to the offices of the Department Of Provincial Administration in Lamlukka, I followed up a few times. However, it was all very new at that time so I don't think it hindered my application. It may be different now. In my case, had I not been as hands on as I was, I do not think I would have obtained citizenship. I was actually interviewed twice, once at MOI and once at DOPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 5/18/2007 at 10:33 PM, dbrenn said: armed with a candle, a lotus flower and an incense stick. I then had to stand with these in my hands while clasped in a wai, in front of a Buddhist shrine, repaeting an oath of allegance to King and country, and promising to be an upright and law-abiding citizen. Struth! I find that quite grim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Struth! I find that quite grim. Why on earth would you? Citizens of any country have obligations as well as privileges. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dbrenn said: Why on earth would you? Citizens of any country have obligations as well as privileges. The religious aspect is why. All thats needed here would be promising to be an upright and law-abiding citizen Edited September 3, 2019 by gunderhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, gunderhill said: The religious aspect is why. You're exchanging one form of nonsense for another 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: You're exchanging one form of nonsense for another Whats the first form of nonsense then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, gunderhill said: Whats the first form of nonsense then? The religion of your home country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, gunderhill said: The religious aspect is why. All thats needed here would be promising to be an upright and law-abiding citizen You get to choose your religion. You are not forced to choose Buddhism. Christian is okay, as is Islam. Not sure they would understand that people are also atheist so Buddhism is an easy way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, ThaiBunny said: The religion of your home country I have no religion and my country doesn't and outside Thai army barracks it says protecting Thai nation people and religions so a Muslim might find standing next to a Buddhist and swearing allegiance offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GarryP said: You get to choose your religion. You are not forced to choose Buddhism. Christian is okay, as is Islam. Not sure they would understand that people are also atheist so Buddhism is an easy way out. Do you mean at some point you have to tick a box "chose religion"? If you say you cant stand and do this with the Buddhist stuff what happens? Edited September 3, 2019 by gunderhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielcondo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Do you mean at some point you have to tick a box "chose religion"? If you say you cant stand and do this with the Buddhist stuff what happens? Don't see the problem here ? you can pick any religion you want, and if you didn't pick any religion then you can just swear allegiance to His Majesty the King and promise to be a law abiding citizen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Do you mean at some point you have to tick a box "chose religion"? If you say you cant stand and do this with the Buddhist stuff what happens? Well if you are atheist, it doesn't really matter, does it? You could swear on anything as it would be meaningless to you anyway. If, however, you barred from swearing on any religion due to personal beliefs, I think you would just have to tell them that and see what happens. I do not think they would stop the whole thing at that stage, but you never know. I know many Thais who don't understand how I cannot have any religious beliefs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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