Popular Post Baggy Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: It's the humidity, or is that the smoke ? Amplified by the mirrors 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, the green light said: what do you expect from a dictatorship government. just like china. their reported cases are less than Ireland. It was meant to be sarcastic, e.g. the low numbers could be due to the humidity, or the smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James Powell Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, grandpa said: I cannot understand how Thailand can control this virus so quickly when most of the rest of the world (who incidentally do a huge amount of testing by comparison) are still struggling to put the lid on it! And if the figures are correct, why aren't world leaders calling in their droves to discover the secret of success? The secret is no secret: the Thai are very cautious but also obedient. They follow the rules and fixed it on the cheap. It doesn't take big money, just masks and isolation...hardly rocket science yet Europeans, USA et. al. are baffled and rebellious. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Suua said: Last week my wife's life long friend died in his late 30s, in a farming community in the North/Central region. Sadly he was renowned for being a 'lao khao' lover, so the 'Pu Yai' didn't even call the police. Burned a few days later.....never reported. I'm not making this up. I have seen many deaths in our village, including one by hanging, and the police has never been called. Yet, the pu yai baan always fills a number of papers, which are forwarded to the local authorities. On top of that, most if not all Thais are insured, to cover the cost of the funerals. For those who are not personally insured, there is a fund in the village. Obviously, these movements of money leave traces and the deaths are also recorded by the insurance companies. When it's all said and done, it seems unlikely that many deaths can be unaccounted for in the country. Edited April 30, 2021 by Brunolem 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceN Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, keith101 said: We have heard that before . Yes, during the last wave. That's what makes it a wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said: Possibly but most of the Chinese diaspora can trace their origins back to the southern China area near Guangzhou so I'm not sure that would be a factor. As do the Thai people. About 1,000 years ago, the Chinese and ancestors of the Thai fought it out for control of Guangdong, and the losing Thai emigrated, leaving behind a scattering in provinces throughout southern China. I am speculating here, but it's possible that any immunity or mitigation of the illness provided by inheritance could come via the people who lived in Southeastern Asia prior to the arrival of the Thai, Vietnamese or Malayans, ie maybe the Mon people, who are now scattered in SE Asia after being displaced by the newer arrivals. Or not. One fact to watch: Covid-19 is very rare in Tibet. This could be due to inheritance, as well. I am sure this will be a topic of research for many years. Edited April 30, 2021 by Danderman123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Thailand’s third COVID-19 wave has already peaked: CCSA. Yea for sure Till the next lot of idiots start spreading it around Again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, cyril sneer said: I saw the news of that celebrity dying this morning, makes me wonder what goes on these rural isaan villages... Not much, it's basically normal life, if it wasn't for the national news we wouldn't know covid existed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sig Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 Peaked, but the lockdown starts tomorrow.... hmmm Is there just a fanatical insistence on seeing how many businesses they can bankrupt? I guess the quota hasn't been filled yet.... The elite haven't quite gotten their pockets completely lined yet and need to make a few more purchases.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, MasterBaker said: time to hold people responsible for irresponsible statements Does this include the folks on here too ?? Just asking > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, James Powell said: The secret is no secret: the Thai are very cautious but also obedient. They follow the rules and fixed it on the cheap. It doesn't take big money, just masks and isolation...hardly rocket science yet Europeans, USA et. al. are baffled and rebellious. I completely agree with you here. The reports from Bangkok are the streets are dead. This is how you squash the virus in it's tracks. They are freaked out about the virus. There are good and bad in all our societies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Joinaman said: Does this include the folks on here too ?? Just asking > Just be sure to not lob everyone into the same bucket as those who forgot their medication frequently do. Many have a healthy respect of the virus and restrictions. Where our variants are running rampant right now, we have athletes in their 30's in ICU, and people from 30-50 are dying in record numbers. The long term health effects of the virus is one thing that people don't talk about at all. It's debilitating and in some cases can last for over a year. Many thanks to 90 percent of people who take this seriously. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkg Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: As do the Thai people. About 1,000 years ago, the Chinese and ancestors of the Thai fought it out for control of Guangdong, and the losing Thai emigrated, leaving behind a scattering in provinces throughout southern China. I am speculating here, but it's possible that any immunity or mitigation of the illness provided by inheritance could come via the people who lived in Southeastern Asia prior to the arrival of the Thai, Vietnamese or Malayans, ie maybe the Mon people, who are now scattered in SE Asia after being displaced by the newer arrivals. Or not. One fact to watch: Covid-19 is very rare in Tibet. This could be due to inheritance, as well. I am sure this will be a topic of research for many years. When you look at the covid stats for Asia, almost all the countries with the lowest number of deaths are connected by a land border (Taiwan's people originate from China, Timor-Leste has a tiny population). Can it really be a coincidence that all the least-affected countries are located in one geographical area? Countries sorted by deaths per 1 million population: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joinaman Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Blumpie said: Just be sure to not lob everyone into the same bucket as those who forgot their medication frequently do. Many have a healthy respect of the virus and restrictions. Where our variants are running rampant right now, we have athletes in their 30's in ICU, and people from 30-50 are dying in record numbers. The long term health effects of the virus is one thing that people don't talk about at all. It's debilitating and in some cases can last for over a year. Many thanks to 90 percent of people who take this seriously. Thanks Any numbers on these athletes in ICUs ? People 30-50 dying in record numbers , from what ? Any numbers for these ? Thousands of these die each day from illnesses and road kill, Long term effects , yup, just like the people who get severe flu , mostly elderly and people with underlying illnesses , which is one thing that people don't talk about 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, nkg said: When you look at the covid stats for Asia, almost all the countries with the lowest number of deaths are connected by a land border (Taiwan's people originate from China, Timor-Leste has a tiny population). Can it really be a coincidence that all the least-affected countries are located in one geographical area? Countries sorted by deaths per 1 million population: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I have a wildly speculative theory about why: the peoples you mention have a high level of Denisovan DNA, compared to Westerners and Africans. Apparently, Denisovans had higher lung capacity (the Tibetans inherited it from them to adapt to high altitudes), and this may help mitigate the effects of Covid-19. Most SouthEast and East Asians have some level of Denisovan DNA. Also, Melanesians have a lot of Denisovan DNA, and they have little else in common with East Asians, yet they also have a relatively low infection and death rate from Covid. Or not. I don't even pretend to be a geneticist or anthropologist. Edited April 30, 2021 by Danderman123 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nkg Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Enzian said: As for "cases by race", the LA Times has an update page every day. Asians in CA have the lowest numbers per 100,000 persons. Whites are a few percentage points higher than Asians. "Black and other" are about 25% higher than whites. The number for Latino is 2 1/2 times the number for whites. Make of it what you will. I'm computer bad or I would link, but it is easy to look up. Oh, and the page is not at all just about race, that's just one of many graphs. APM research labs have done a very interesting study: Quote The color of coronavirus: COVID-19 deaths by race and ethnicity in the U.S. One of the obvious conclusions is that Asian Americans are considerably less likely to die than other ethnicities - only 1 in 1,040 Asian Americans have died. KEY FINDINGS (from data through March 2): These are the documented, nationwide actual mortality impacts from COVID-19 data (aggregated from all available U.S. states and the District of Columbia) for all race groups since the start of the pandemic. 1 in 390 Indigenous Americans has died (or 256.0 deaths per 100,000) 1 in 555 Black Americans has died (or 179.8 deaths per 100,000) 1 in 565 Pacific Islander Americans has died (or 176.6 deaths per 100,000) 1 in 665 White Americans has died (or 150.2 deaths per 100,000) 1 in 680 Latino Americans has died (or 147.3 deaths per 100,000) 1 in 1,040 Asian Americans has died (or 96.0 deaths per 100,000) https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race Edited April 30, 2021 by nkg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joinaman Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Blumpie said: I completely agree with you here. The reports from Bangkok are the streets are dead. This is how you squash the virus in it's tracks. They are freaked out about the virus. There are good and bad in all our societies. Thais follow the rules ?? Yes, but only if it suits them Here in Isaan , they wear masks on bikes, but no lights, license or helmets They wear a mask to enter the stores, then either remove it, or lower it under the nose Social distancing, ? Never heard, never seen unless in government buildings Drinking , partying ? maybe not in most bars, but plenty in houses and gardens, Social distancing ? What's that ? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Suua said: I'm sure you're thinking of the theory, which in a 1st world country, might just work. Last week my wife's life long friend died in his late 30s, in a farming community in the North/Central region. Sadly he was renowned for being a 'lao khao' lover, so the 'Pu Yai' didn't even call the police. Burned a few days later.....never reported. I'm not making this up. But it is pretty sure the information about the death was transmitted up the food chain to the district. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, nkg said: When you look at the covid stats for Asia, almost all the countries with the lowest number of deaths are connected by a land border (Taiwan's people originate from China, Timor-Leste has a tiny population). Can it really be a coincidence that all the least-affected countries are located in one geographical area? Countries sorted by deaths per 1 million population: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ According to many here, all these countries have banded together in order to provide fake covid numbers. The truth only lies in Washington and Brussels...everyone knows that... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Joinaman said: Does this include the folks on here too ?? Just asking > Probably not but if your running a country then probably? Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Blumpie said: Where our variants are running rampant right now, we have athletes in their 30's in ICU, and people from 30-50 are dying in record numbers. Where is that? Record numbers? Thailand has 200 deaths in one year...one of the lowest scores in the world... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Brunolem said: According to many here, all these countries have banded together in order to provide fake covid numbers. The truth only lies in Washington and Brussels...everyone knows that... Unfortunately, we all expect all data concerning Covid-19 to be accurate, but even the best data collection systems have flaws. Most due to the great speed required to collect all that information. In the UK, for some time, any death incurred by someone infected by Covid was considered Covid for the purposes of the initial counts. I have seen that implemented in some US jurisdictions, as well. This gets sorted out down the road, why is why the initial overnight count is rarely accurate. In the US, there have been a large number of 'excess" deaths over the last year, and this will have to be sorted out. In many countries, only deaths in hospitals counted towards Covid-19 deaths. If someone died at home, they weren't counted. I suspect that this happens to some degree in Thailand, but it's not the case that entire villages are wiped out and no one notices, it's probably in the single digits per province. Mexico has the problem of people dying at home and not being counted, but the bigger problem is they don't test. Which means that enough people die in hospitals that the daily death rate is always about 10% of the number of new infections, which means the death rate for the infected is 10% after everything is sorted out. India and Brazil can't keep up with the fatalities, so they will have to open up mass graves down the road to count the bodies. Russia seriously undercounts fatalities. It's not some giant conspiracy covering up the deaths, it's just routine bureaucratic static that is causing undercounts and, rarely, overcounts. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocmrlj Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'm tired of covid, that's all. My first and last comment on the topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abmong Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Governments are too quick to claim victory. Just look at Modhi and India... The virus comes back with a vengeance after people let their guards down. Even after new infects show as 0 we should still have lockdowns and mask mandates for at least 3-4 months after to make sure it's really been stamped out as much as possible. The 1-2 mouth stop/start does F-all since we know the virus can survive longer than that. And in the mean time ramp up O2 production just in case, when we've reached overflow capacity then give or sell the excess to India. Edited April 30, 2021 by Abmong 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Concerning the ability of the virus to survive after a brief lockdown: There was a ship that left Argentina for 2 months. At the end of 2 months, most of the crew developed Covid-19. Everyone had been tested at the start, so it was a big mystery how the virus could attack after 2 months at sea. They did find that one of the crew was exposed to Covid prior to disembarcation, on the flight to the port. That crew member was tested so early that the test didn't pick up the virus. And then they were asymptomatic. And that crew member infected someone else who was also asymptomatic, and then another, until the virus eventually hit someone who developed symptoms, and then everyone was visibly ill. So, it's possible to have asymptomatic infection chains between waves. Edited April 30, 2021 by Danderman123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uroller Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The country is in a mess with Covid but they are saying it has peaked????????????It’s just beginning and forget about tourists until at least last 2022. Let reality kick in! Never forget Songkran 2021! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Field hospitals with 25,000 cardboard beds. Areas/provinces being graded deep red really doesn't sound like they have it under control! Look at European countries that attempted to rush opening up boarders and relaxing rules on every occasion it came back to bite them. It would be nice if the Great Czar top dog know it all supreme leader waved his finger and ordered it to go but I don't think it would work. Respect it but don't let it rule your life, use the masks, sanitizer and maintaining social distancing is the only way to move forward albeit cautiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 How many cases are there in Thai prisons? With reported massive over crowding it's extremely unlikely that there are only a few. Would the true figure be reported anyway? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Klong Toey is the next big cluster I fear, and even with people not moving about very much in Bangkok, the side sois around that Area are very close together and thousands live in the housing within the cluster Area. Stay safe folks. I am seeing on the news tonight that there are many in the Television/Film/Show community that are positive for Covid. Having just lost the Comedian Kom to Covid, died this morning and this afternoon he was cremated, and now seeing another comedian "Ball" has Covid, along with a popular night time Televison show host, one has to wonder if they are testing at all production facilities and film locations. Seems like they are cremating those that die pretty quickly unlike the 3, 5, or 7 day parties. Edited April 30, 2021 by ThailandRyan 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: But it is pretty sure the information about the death was transmitted up the food chain to the district. maybe so, but no autopsy and no testing ? Just like in our village, maybe 5 people in the last couple of weeks, including Grandma. No police, no autopsies , just put in coolbox till burning time Its been great here for the local <deleted> heads, free beer and food every day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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