Popular Post paulikens Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 hours ago, spidermike007 said: The degree of pain and suffering due to the tourism shutdown, is unfathomable. The tentacles of the industry reach out into many areas. Thailand needs tourism. Trillions of dollars have been spent on tourism infrastructure. It must be supported. This paranoid and timid administration has sabotaged the tourism industry. I suspect beyond repair. I do not think it will ever recover to even a pale shadow of what it once was. And that means millions of jobs lost. Prayuth, Anutin and Phiphat bear huge responsibility for the current grave state of the economy. The closing of tens of thousands of massage shops, bars, restaurants and hotels is your fault. You have caused much destruction. We know this. Nothing you say to deflect blame will change this. You will be held responsible. You are destroying the progress of your nation. @spidermike007 I agree with you 100% but no different to most world leaders in dealing with this virus, totally disproportionate to the threat that it poses to the majority of us. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1069 respondents to the poll. Not worth the paper it's printed on. The government should do a REAL poll. No, they can't, because then they'd have to include REAL people and the likelihood is that it would be 99% critical. Muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 why? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleddy Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 A sample size of 1000 (without ages, location, wealth etc)taken from 60 million (I’ve discounted 3 m farang) is as useless as a chocolate teapot. Does nobody study stats here? eddy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desire2016 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 How does the Thai government think for a minute that they can open the doors, when they haven't vaxanated their own population, All about money, if majority in the tourist market didn't live just for the day and saved they would be better off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 hours ago, webfact said: 91.4% of people polled nationwide agreed with the reopening plan wanting to see everyone vaccinated with at least a first dose. 94.9 want the government to make sure everyone gets their second dose of vaccine by early next year. It seems they have little understanding of how a vaccine works, and no comprehension of the way that the Indian variant can seriously reduce the effectiveness of the vaccines, but it's hardly surprising when watching lakorn on the TV is so much more fun than reading about scientific stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Slightly loaded bias questions ! Question , would you like this 10,000bht or your finger broken ? Or like asking a kid would you like chocolate or a Brussel sprout ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Los for words Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 In a super poll of 1,000, turkeys, 91.4% voted to give Christmas a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I could think of two dozen permanent industries they could upskill and employ the redundant masses in, within months. But I'm not a corrupt billionaire wetwipe, so those nation transforming ideas will go with me to Thailands grave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sawadee1947 Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: So they've given upp 70% fully vaccinated before they'll open? Can't wait until 2023, can they? The problem with vaccinations is that having only one shot you're not protected but might get an infection. If you're lucky you wouldn't die. In the time with one jab the virus could change even. We'll have a new variant. Only 2 jabs will provide protection. And I don't think the Indian variant will avoid to enter Thailand. Having said that it's evident that Sinovac can't give you any significant protection against the delta variant. So to open the country prior to a fully vaccination seem to be suicide. ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 How will this play out, when Thailand finally opens to international tourists? Most Thais would have SinoVac shots, or AstraZeneca shots, while most international visitors would have Pfizer/Moderna/J&J shots. Would international travel advisors still recommend Thailand? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney42bb Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ohh Yes ... The Tourists and the vast business generated thereof, that Thailand has never been reliant on. You've got to grovel, squirm and make donations to the men in orange... that you cannot.... afford for quite a bit longer. No use in having another General Election,to deliver a contrived result either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, HenryPattaya said: l have asked many Thais ‘s never found one who wanted to open up you're correct, this poll was BS in the extreme. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dlclark97 Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 At only a little over 1000 Thais surveyed and the results obtained I can only assume the survey was targeted to the hotel, restaurant and other business owners who stand to profit for the tourists return. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Interestingly the English commentary failed to mention that 89.5 were worried that the government would faile to make its vaccine rollout target within 120 days which seems to negate or add conditionality to the first finding that 91.4% are in favour of reopening in 120 days. It looks like the survey was designed to trap people into agreeing but they felt their answers were conditional on government fulfilling its vaccine targets which everyone knows they are not going to do. What a load of old nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 ????????must be hard on the gemstone scammers selling rubbish fakes,no mugs around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 It is very clear that this is a political ploy to get voters to feel the government has now segued into doing a good job with the rollout and reopening and then push the button on dissolving parliament and getting a new mandate with the help of the senate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chang1 Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 55 minutes ago, paulikens said: @spidermike007 I agree with you 100% but no different to most world leaders in dealing with this virus, totally disproportionate to the threat that it poses to the majority of us. Too right, who gives a toss about the weak and vulnerable? Brasil got it right, half a million weaklings killed off and no end in sight. Vaccines should be banned so us super humans can get on with life and not worry about the weaklings. In fact why bother with hospitals - we don't need them. Just think of the money we can save. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: A poll has revealed that the vast majority of Thai people 7 hours ago, webfact said: The "Super Poll" 7 hours ago, webfact said: 1,069 people from all social strata were asked questions This is a joke right? The overuse of adjectives is always a giveaway of something not quite right lol. But back on topic I seem to remember around April/May last year the poll results were exactly the opposite with the 'vast majority' not wanting farang in the country as we were blamed for bringing in Covid19. I guess we are forgiven now they are broke. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOne Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 The propaganda is strong on this one. All of my Thai friends who don’t work in the tourist industry don’t want them to open up. They like the peace and quiet of not having foreigners everywhere and clogged traffic due to Tuk-Tuks, your busses and red trucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 booster jabs in the autumn being planned for brits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mavideol said: wonder if they ever blame their government Based on comments I've heard recently from Thai acquaintances, yes, they do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DualSportBiker Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 You join the ranks of Somchai and Sombat with your lack of knowledge of mathematics and statistical modeling... Before you state that 1,069 people can't represent 69 million, try reading up on statistically sampling. Until you have an opinion based on knowing something, your opinion is not worth a tin of duck-poop. I've posted this link to every muppet who declares their ignorance about stats. I will continue to do so until the message is beaten in - your lack of understanding of statistical modeling does not mean the polls are badly done... 7 hours ago, 2long said: How can they say the 'vast majority' after polling just over 1,000 people? Ridiculous! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Pedrogaz said: A year or so ago when a similar poll was conducted, 90% of Thais said keep the foreigners out. Yes and some posters on here were very vocal and fully supportive that their wishes should be respected. A year on and they are desperately feeling the pinch they have clearly seen the need to reopen and let the tourists back in. Let’s hope the restrictions are all lifted and they get their wish. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, DualSportBiker said: You join the ranks of Somchai and Sombat with your lack of knowledge of mathematics and statistical modeling... Before you state that 1,069 people can't represent 69 million, try reading up on statistically sampling. Until you have an opinion based on knowing something, your opinion is not worth a tin of duck-poop. I've posted this link to every muppet who declares their ignorance about stats. I will continue to do so until the message is beaten in - your lack of understanding of statistical modeling does not mean the polls are badly done... WOW!! ???????? I normally enjoy the company and opinions of fellow bikers, but the aggression and accusations* in your post are quite alarming! I will/would never click on a link surrounded by such words, such is the fear of a spam link or worse. How very dare you call me a Somchai! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Strongheart said: There is no "Second Coming" of the Buddha. Gautama was the 4th and only one more will come. Why not educate yourself a little instead of making yourself look foolish. Stupid felangs, living in Thailand and not the slightest clue. Religion is a war cry to the gullible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DualSportBiker Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, judokrab said: The Dunning Kruger Effect is evident here. As a professional statistician, I can tell you that there is no practical benefit to be gained in polling more than 1000 people (even in a population the size of the USA) for such a survey, provided (as always) that it is a properly randomized sample. Be careful, knowing about the subject matter will get your scorned by the armchair 'I know best' group. Being right is not enough, you need to be loud, disparaging and have a weak reason to feel superior to your hosts before your correct opinion can be viewed as such. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 It was only a few months ago that the vast majority of Thais DIDN"T want the country opened up to foreigners! Depends who you ask I suppose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualSportBiker Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, mikosan said: 1069 respondents to the poll. Not worth the paper it's printed on. The government should do a REAL poll. No, they can't, because then they'd have to include REAL people and the likelihood is that it would be 99% critical. Muppets. What is a "real poll"? Pray tell us Mr. Statistician? Explain your sample size and its distribution, your margins of error and quality control methods? We'll wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, mikosan said: It's a turn of phrase, and on the subject of making yourself look foolish, are you sure it's 'falangs' and not 'farangs'? As I understand it, falang is not a correct transliteration of the Thai word ฝรั่ง. It's spelled 'farang' because that's a ror reua in the middle, (basically a letter R). If it were 'falang' then it would be spelt ฝลั่ง. But I could be wrong. Who cares. He never even said falang. 20 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said: booster jabs in the autumn being planned for brits Thanks for the update………..<deleted> has that got to do with this subject? Edited June 21, 2021 by Kadilo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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