Bkk Brian Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: And your point is....???? The point is in the post, what is your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: I guess it does away with the need for road blocks and manpower? Has there been any clarification as to what constitutes "necessary" travel? As the motorways are remaining open during the day, presumably it will be at the discretion of whoever are staffing the checkpoints. Hopefully the checkpoints will be before you pay the motorway toll! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post garygooner Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 Trying hard to find any optimism right now, but... if around 6 million people were vaccinated in & around Bangkok each month for the next few months then perhaps 70% of the adult population in those areas could be reached as is the target. It has to be vaccines other than Sinovac of course, and must include boosters for many. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, garygooner said: Trying hard to find any optimism right now, but... if around 6 million people were vaccinated in & around Bangkok each month for the next few months then perhaps 70% of the adult population in those areas could be reached as is the target. It has to be vaccines other than Sinovac of course, and must include boosters for many. If you're looking for optimism, don't read this Forum! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: If you're looking for optimism, don't read this Forum! Oh we are all optimists in our own way, now whether that optimism is shared by others...well thats a different story, but when it comes to Covid we also see it in our own ways and many of us to agree. For those that do not see it the same way we try very hard to agree to disagree. Right now I am not overly optimistic that this government can get a grip on this spread based upon the way they have rolled out semi-restriction s in some places, while others are close to being a type of semi restricted lockdown. By the way @brewsterbudgenhow are the closures in Bangkok by the Central group going to affect your working from the office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dialemco Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 It's so sad the virus is getting out if control. The only way out is much stricter lock down and intensified efforts made to try and obtain sufficient vaccines other than chinese if these have proven to be ineffective against the D variant as vaccination seems to be the only way out of the crisis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Macrohistory said: Here's what it actually says: My wife likes me to wear my mask even when I am biking alone. I have tried it a few times and it really does interfere with breathing that is obviously more intense that resting breathing. I put it back on when I stop and if possibly contacting anyone. I am satisfied and confident I am doing the right thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, fleccer said: infected doesn't mean being sick, as a matter of fact the hospitals are empty Yes of course , it's time for the Thais to learn to live with the virus, you cannot stop the wind by hands Stop making things up Thailand faces hospital bed shortage amid 3rd COVID wave A third wave of COVID-19 cases characterized by fierce new variants is threatening to inundate Thailand's health care system, with hospitals facing bed shortages and medical authorities considering home isolation for asymptomatic cases. Thai health care officials are scrambling to deal with emerging COVID clusters throughout the country. Several major public hospitals as well as large medical universities in Bangkok have stopped testing for the disease because they are running out of beds. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Thailand-faces-hospital-bed-shortage-amid-3rd-COVID-wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Former red-shirt leader Nattawut Saikua has just posted on Facebook that he has tested positive for #COVID19. “I was vaccinated with 1 dose of AstraZeneca vaccine on 8th June. On 8th July I went to test for COVID-19. I was told a moment ago that I have tested positive.” https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413867805661798400 And what are you trying to say with this post ??? Fully vaccinated people with the best vaccine there is can still get infected and pass it on . The thing is that vaccination will decrease the risk of hospitalization or death . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) New highs: In care ICU Ventilators #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Sunday: Since 1 April 307,508 people infected (+18 imported and +9,521 local cases) 2,617 dead +86 85,689 in care 2,783 in ICU and 728 on ventilators 4,053 discharged from care https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1414096122511953920 Edited July 11, 2021 by anchadian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, fleccer said: infected doesn't mean being sick, as a matter of fact the hospitals are empty Yes of course , it's time for the Thais to learn to live with the virus, you cannot stop the wind by hands What kind of mind altering substance are you taking. The hospitals here in Bangkok are full, people are waiting on beds, field hospitals are full, ICU's packed and over 700 on respirators here. Folks of all ages are dying and only 4% of the population is truly vaccinated, many without a vaccine that seems to help with this Delta variant we are seeing. I know from past postings you also believe that Covid is a big nothing and that life should just get on, much like you allude to in this quoted post of yours. Sorry but i will agree to disagree with your post not only on its content but also because it is inflammatory. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Stop making things up Thailand faces hospital bed shortage amid 3rd COVID wave A third wave of COVID-19 cases characterized by fierce new variants is threatening to inundate Thailand's health care system, with hospitals facing bed shortages and medical authorities considering home isolation for asymptomatic cases. Thai health care officials are scrambling to deal with emerging COVID clusters throughout the country. Several major public hospitals as well as large medical universities in Bangkok have stopped testing for the disease because they are running out of beds. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Thailand-faces-hospital-bed-shortage-amid-3rd-COVID-wave I think he is referring to UK hospitals being empty…..which is also totally false. They might not be overwhelmed, but they are not empty of Covid cases. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said: And what are you trying to say with this post ??? Fully vaccinated people with the best vaccine there is can still get infected and pass it on . The thing is that vaccination will decrease the risk of hospitalization or death . Remember this Government seems to believe that being vaccinated with just 1 AZ jab means you are ok to travel to Areas especially Phuket. I think the point is that the individual the post is about has had only one AZ jab and so it shows that the governments belief that one jab will do ya is wrong, but then that's just my view. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said: And what are you trying to say with this post ??? Fully vaccinated people with the best vaccine there is can still get infected and pass it on . The thing is that vaccination will decrease the risk of hospitalization or death . The individual in the article wasn’t fully vaccinated. He had one jab of AZ only. the article is information, I assume you can read it, make of it what you will and move on 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Oh we are all optimists in our own way, now whether that optimism is shared by others...well thats a different story, but when it comes to Covid we also see it in our own ways and many of us to agree. For those that do not see it the same way we try very hard to agree to disagree. Right now I am not overly optimistic that this government can get a grip on this spread based upon the way they have rolled out semi-restriction s in some places, while others are close to being a type of semi restricted lockdown. By the way @brewsterbudgenhow are the closures in Bangkok by the Central group going to affect your working from the office? @ThailandRyanMy office is accessed by a separate entrance/lift, so we can continue working. However, it seems that the entire 6th and 7th floors of Centralworld will be open anyway, as the supermarket, food-court and restaurants do not have to close (obviously takeaway only). I've also read that banks and mobile phone stores do not have to close so it could mean that the whole mall is open, but just all stores except those allowed to open, are closed. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. Edited July 11, 2021 by brewsterbudgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: I think he is referring to UK hospitals being empty…..which is also totally false. They might not be overwhelmed, but they are not empty of Covid cases. If he was referring to UK hospitals he could have posted that, but then this is a Thailand Covid forum and what happens in the UK other than statistical studies on the vaccines is really irrelevant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Martinpeter Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 From tomorrow!/. restricted travel advise not travel! But we must still go to immigration (people travel into the Dark Red zone! + others & from everywhere)? go! and queue up with hundreds of people? Does this make sense? more speading covid? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 The number of people in ICU and on VENTILATORS continues to rise every day: 3 July: 2,045/589 4 July: 2,147/616 5 July: 2,199/603 6 July: 2,350/643 7 July: 2,496/676 8 July: 2,564/698 9 July: 2,685/701 10 July: 2,738/717 11 July: 2,783/728 <— Today https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1414097016376881158 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Nanaplaza666 said: And what are you trying to say with this post ??? Fully vaccinated people with the best vaccine there is can still get infected and pass it on . The thing is that vaccination will decrease the risk of hospitalization or death . another one..............oh dear the point being that even though you've had one shot of vaccine you still need take a great deal of care. However the point is now also being made by the media, which also mentions about another high profile MP who this time had both shots of Sinovac and tested positive Nattawut, MP Nattacha test positive for Covid-19 despite vaccine jabs Former red-shirt leader Nattawut Saikuar on Saturday said he had tested positive for Covid-19. In his Facebook post, he said he received the first AstraZeneca jab on June 8 this year. He apologised to people who had been in contact with him so far. "I will contact the public health agency to receive medical treatment," he said. Earlier, Move Forward Party MP Nattacha Boonchaiinsawat said on his Facebook page that he has been infected with Covid-19. He said he had received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine, claiming that he had always complied with measures to contain the spread of Covid-19. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003089 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: I think he is referring to UK hospitals being empty…..which is also totally false. They might not be overwhelmed, but they are not empty of Covid cases. Thanks for the correction. 9 minutes ago, placeholder said: Stop making things up Thailand faces hospital bed shortage amid 3rd COVID wave A third wave of COVID-19 cases characterized by fierce new variants is threatening to inundate Thailand's health care system, with hospitals facing bed shortages and medical authorities considering home isolation for asymptomatic cases. Thai health care officials are scrambling to deal with emerging COVID clusters throughout the country. Several major public hospitals as well as large medical universities in Bangkok have stopped testing for the disease because they are running out of beds. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Thailand-faces-hospital-bed-shortage-amid-3rd-COVID-wave I see that you were referring to the UK. Even there hospital admissions are rising: Britain's Covid hospitalisations rise 57 per cent and cases jump 30 per cent week-on-week to 32,367 - as medics warn life should NOT return to normal on July 19 and Boris prepares to 'curb freedom rhetoric' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9775903/Covid-hospitalisations-rise-57-cent-cases-jump-30-cent-week-week.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: another one..............oh dear the point being that even though you've had one shot of vaccine you still need take a great deal of care. However the point is now also being made by the media, which also mentions about another high profile MP who this time had both shots of Sinovac and tested positive Nattawut, MP Nattacha test positive for Covid-19 despite vaccine jabs Former red-shirt leader Nattawut Saikuar on Saturday said he had tested positive for Covid-19. In his Facebook post, he said he received the first AstraZeneca jab on June 8 this year. He apologised to people who had been in contact with him so far. "I will contact the public health agency to receive medical treatment," he said. Earlier, Move Forward Party MP Nattacha Boonchaiinsawat said on his Facebook page that he has been infected with Covid-19. He said he had received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine, claiming that he had always complied with measures to contain the spread of Covid-19. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003089 I trust you're are charging for these online teaching lessons, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Today there are 86 deaths in #Thailand 48 males & 38 females 4 foreigners died Median age is 64.5 (36-94 years) Most deaths in Bangkok (39) and Samut Prakan (16) 31 infected from family members 35 died in less than 6 days of diagnosis 2 died at home https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1414098612062015493 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: @ThailandRyanMy office is accessed by a separate entrance/lift, so we can continue working. However, it seems that the entire 6th and 7th floors of Centralworld will be open anyway, as the supermarket, food-court and restaurants do not have to close (obviously takeaway only). I've also read that banks and mobile phone stores do not have to close so it could mean that the whole mall is open, but just all stores except those allowed to open, are closed. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. That is what it does sound like in reading Centrals press release, so basically it is the same as when they shut last year and we could still access Tops and Gourmet Markets to shop in person if needed. I remember that the restaurants all set up desks on the main floor in one central area so you could order from their location and then wait in chairs until your order was delivered to take away. Stay safe, I know that many families have already left and taken up residence outside of Bangkok towards Pattaya, Hua Hin, Jomtien and Rayong for at least the next month. My neighbor here in our condo took the wife and his best friend (Rexxx the Malinois) with him and headed to Trat for the next month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, fleccer said: infected doesn't mean being sick, as a matter of fact the hospitals are empty Yes of course , it's time for the Thais to learn to live with the virus, you cannot stop the wind by hands If you are suggesting that Thailand let the virus run free, then deaths here would far eclipse the 127,000 who died in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Out of 9,115 local cases, most in Bangkok - 2,741 Pathum Thani - 1,108 Samut Prakan - 642 Samut Sakhon - 563 Chonburi - 381 Nonthaburi - 338 Songkhla - 252 Pattani - 215 Saraburi - 178 Chachoengsao - 170 #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1414099941669031943 Edited July 11, 2021 by anchadian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patjqm Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, James105 said: We are a year and a half into this pandemic. If an infected person can infect another person so easily from breathing in their vicinity of up to a metre or two, why is it that the test to see if you have covid needs to be a swab up the nose almost reaching the brain cavity and then sent to a lab for analysis? Isn't it about time we should be able to breath or cough onto a stick, plug it into some kind of handheld machine and get an immediate result of the presence of covid? Just thinking aloud, not expecting an answer. Belgium company has realised this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said: How does that relate to the Delta variant that did t even exist when this study was completed? I guess it's because exercise isn't a vaccine so it's highly unlikely that it was generating antibodies to specific varieties of any various. More about increasing the aerobic capacity of the lungs and heart so they can sustain more damage and still function adequately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, anchadian said: New highs: In care ICU Ventilators #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Sunday: Since 1 April 307,508 people infected (+18 imported and +9,521 local cases) 2,617 dead +86 85,689 in care 2,783 in ICU and 728 on ventilators 4,053 discharged from care https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1414096122511953920 For the “hospitals are full” crowd, some 3,000+ net admissions yesterday (7,113 total with 4,053 discharges), so 3,000 more people were squeezed into the hospital system. Of course, this is not sustainable. And I am not saying that these people are now in appropriate levels of care. 3 days ago, people here were saying that hospitals were full, but that was 10,000 net admissions ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 58 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There are 32,000+ people in the UK who are newly infected, and who may disagree with you. Covid to get worse before it gets better, doctors warn But, other than a crazy rant, what is your point? To tell people in Thailand to ignore the virus? I don't think his point is to tell people to ignore the virus but to tell people that when fully vaccinated(with the good vaccines ofcourse not the chinese shait)will get this country closer to reopening and getting back to some kind of normal . In the Uk 32.000 new infected but how many hospitalized or die ?? Hospital beds stay empty and IC's getting emptier . Same as in the netherlands they opened up and now there where festivals and parties in clubs where everyone needed to prove being vaccinated or test amd the nr's of infections went up massively (duh,ofcourse they go up if mass testing starts again) but most of these posetives are young people in there 20ties and 30ties and they feel sick for 1 day and thats it nothing severe . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Nanaplaza666 said: I don't think his point is to tell people to ignore the virus but to tell people that when fully vaccinated(with the good vaccines ofcourse not the chinese shait)will get this country closer to reopening and getting back to some kind of normal . In the Uk 32.000 new infected but how many hospitalized or die ?? Hospital beds stay empty and IC's getting emptier . Same as in the netherlands they opened up and now there where festivals and parties in clubs where everyone needed to prove being vaccinated or test amd the nr's of infections went up massively (duh,ofcourse they go up if mass testing starts again) but most of these posetives are young people in there 20ties and 30ties and they feel sick for 1 day and thats it nothing severe . Hospitals in the UK are beginning to fill up again. But the UK has many vaccinated people, whereas Thailand does not, so what is his point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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