Misterwhisper Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 hours ago, mikosan said: To cover those points and more would require a proper and thorough investigation. I doubt that has happened. That said, I imagine they would have to provide enough evidence for a prima facie case. As some posters have pointed out, most of the questions I posed (and several more) have already been answered sometime in the past. It's just that these details were not included in the Mirror article. So, yes, if there is DNA evidence, if the suspect and the victim (still alive at that time) traveled to Kanchanaburi together, and if the stones used to weigh down the dismembered body were indeed purchased by the suspect, the entire picture changes. I think there is now definitely a case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Misterwhisper said: As some posters have pointed out, most of the questions I posed (and several more) have already been answered sometime in the past. It's just that these details were not included in the Mirror article. So, yes, if there is DNA evidence, if the suspect and the victim (still alive at that time) traveled to Kanchanaburi together, and if the stones used to weigh down the dismembered body were indeed purchased by the suspect, the entire picture changes. I think there is now definitely a case. There is no information in the public domain that they travelled to Kanchanburi, It is known that Looker hired a minivan to go to Hua Hin at 09:30 am on the 2nd November. (not stated if the victim travelled to hua hin). Looker allegedly got out the Van at a department store Petchaburi Edited July 13, 2021 by cleopatra2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Off topic posts trolling about the Red Bull case have been removed as well as the replies. Some posts trolling about Sherlock and the replies have been removed. A post using a trolling image was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vangrop Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 10 hours ago, mvdf said: There must have been overwhelmingly convincing evidence as Spain and the Strasbourg court would otherwise not have agreed to the extradition. The EU is notoriously restrictive on extraditions to non-EU countries. I totally agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 hours ago, mvdf said: There must have been overwhelmingly convincing evidence as Spain and the Strasbourg court would otherwise not have agreed to the extradition. The EU is notoriously restrictive on extraditions to non-EU countries. The Strasbourg court rejected his appeal on the basis that Looker had not completed all the domestic appeals available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 There was a report that they were seen together in Kanchanaburi. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30317647 Shane Looker was wanted in connection with the death of Laxami after security camera footage showed her leaving a bar zone in Bangkok with a "male foreigner" on the evening of November 1, 2014, and both got into a taxi to Kanchanaburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, robblok said: There was a report that they were seen together in Kanchanaburi. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/30317647 Shane Looker was wanted in connection with the death of Laxami after security camera footage showed her leaving a bar zone in Bangkok with a "male foreigner" on the evening of November 1, 2014, and both got into a taxi to Kanchanaburi. That was the police initial thinking. However at the time the police was unaware of the hire of the minivan on 2nd November. The going to Kanchanaburi by taxi on the night of 1st or 2nd November looks wrong based on the minivan drivers statement that Looker disembarked with a red suitcase similar to the one found with the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: That was the police initial thinking. However at the time the police was unaware of the hire of the minivan on 2nd November. The going to Kanchanaburi by taxi on the night of 1st or 2nd November looks wrong based on the minivan drivers statement that Looker disembarked with a red suitcase similar to the one found with the victim. I havent found that report, that is pretty damming if he disembarked with a red suitcase like the one the victim was found in. Must say that is one daring action (if true) going by taxi with a body in a suitcase. Do you have a link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, robblok said: I havent found that report, that is pretty damming if he disembarked with a red suitcase like the one the victim was found in. Must say that is one daring action (if true) going by taxi with a body in a suitcase. Do you have a link ? You need to read the thai press , manager online. He still needs to be placed going to or in Kanchanaburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: You need to read the thai press , manager online. He still needs to be placed going to or in Kanchanaburi. How so ? you just said that a taxi driver said he disembarked with a suitcase like tht. Was that somewhere else then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, robblok said: How so ? you just said that a taxi driver said he disembarked with a suitcase like tht. Was that somewhere else then ? Apologies He disembarked Phetchaburi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Story sounds daft, you'd have to be the stupidest person in the world to kill someone and use your suitcase and put rocks in you bought, also knowing police love CCTV as it's so easy to check. Some people are so gullible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandsu Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) The evidence is probably something as simple as a blood stained hotel room . When you cut up a body it’s not like you can do it out in the street . As we all know his passport was probably used when he booked the room . The quote ‘we are going to get justice for our people ‘ tells me he is 100% going to be found guilty and no chance of a fair trial . Edited July 14, 2021 by chrisandsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatworxjomtien Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Lets hope once they have asked him more questions the police are able to find more video proof to determine if the 2 love-birds went into some location (like hotel) and she never returned - I just cannot see the thai police prosecuting this guy (is the brit embassy advocates involved ? as well) unless the thai police have definite proof he was the last person to have seen her, video footage of the both of them entering a location and video footage of him leaving the same location alone with the suitcase in his hands and as well a video of her leaving alone would exonerate him.... jus sayin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatworxjomtien Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, chrisandsu said: The evidence is probably something as simple as a blood stained hotel room . When you cut up a body it’s not like you can do it out in the street . As we all know his passport was probably used when he booked the room . The quote ‘we are going to get justice for our people ‘ tells me he is 100% going to be found guilty and no chance of a fair trial . agreed, if he did anything in his hotel room and they truly have forensic evidence and not just some cleaning maid or security guard testimony then the man is as good as convicted before he landed back in Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Well rats. It seems that some posters do not realize that their DNA is unique to them. If this duds DNA was found on the dead woman, well that is pretty good evidence that the pair were together and is good evidence against the Brit. Glad that he was finally located and will get justice somewhere for his crime. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 10 hours ago, chrisandsu said: The evidence is probably something as simple as a blood stained hotel room . When you cut up a body it’s not like you can do it out in the street . As we all know his passport was probably used when he booked the room . The quote ‘we are going to get justice for our people ‘ tells me he is 100% going to be found guilty and no chance of a fair trial . The body was not cut into pieces. The victim was stuffed into the suitcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Well rats. It seems that some posters do not realize that their DNA is unique to them. If this duds DNA was found on the dead woman, well that is pretty good evidence that the pair were together and is good evidence against the Brit. Glad that he was finally located and will get justice somewhere for his crime. Geezer Looker does not deny being with the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 12:27 AM, scubascuba3 said: i wonder why he is being "uncooperative" personally this case is very fishy, he allegedly just meets this girl then kills and dismembers her, what's the motive? most likely a jealous ex boyfriend involved One of my friend's lived close to this guy. The story is quite complex. He returned to hua Hin after the alleged murder where he had a house and some look alike had been arrested but was released after cc footage was viewed. He then disappeared, he was known to live in Spain and was well known to police, Interpol never got him. I think there may be more than one involved but we will have to wait for the case to develop to see what picture comes out. I thought he would never be seen again in Los. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 15 hours ago, cleopatra2 said: Apologies He disembarked Phetchaburi He went to Huahin where he lived-in a gated community, one of my best friends lived close to him, but he's gone back to another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Story sounds daft, you'd have to be the stupidest person in the world to kill someone and use your suitcase and put rocks in you bought, also knowing police love CCTV as it's so easy to check. Some people are so gullible What is more gullible is to total disbelief your displaying. Perhaps as its one of your kind. You really think that multiple courts in Europe would extradite him based on flimsy evidence. Says a lot about you. Judging from your armchair without having seen what judges have seen, thinking they are incompetent and dont understand Thailand. Anyway who says murderers are smart, the crime might have happened in a moment of rage and then he had to deal with it. Lots of stress not clear thinking. I bet after the trail if he is convicted you will say its a fake trial. Some people are impossible to convince. Edited July 15, 2021 by robblok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 16 hours ago, cleopatra2 said: You need to read the thai press , manager online. He still needs to be placed going to or in Kanchanaburi. The thing is how he got to Kanchanaburi on a bike allegedly, and then to Hua Hin to his house, and then disappeared out of the country without trace. Then their is the motive, he would have needed help or another passport he was a known criminal. When and if a motive surfaces, I would hazard a guess that drugs may be involved and some sort of rip off, but purely speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, kiwikeith said: The thing is how he got to Kanchanaburi on a bike allegedly, and then to Hua Hin to his house, and then disappeared out of the country without trace. Then their is the motive, he would have needed help or another passport he was a known criminal. When and if a motive surfaces, I would hazard a guess that drugs may be involved and some sort of rip off, but purely speculative. Ok. We have a witness placing him at Phetchaburi on Nov 2nd. I have not seen the travel to Kanchanaburi reported. When was this journey made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 4:50 PM, robblok said: Right if this was about easy targets why choose someone who has fled and that it brings a lot of work and attention to the Thai police. So this guy certainly was no easy target. Many courts wanted him extradited as they saw enough proof. But he kept appealing. Finally there were no more appeals. So don't forget not just 1 court but many thought it was enough evidence. Plus your easy target makes no sense in this case as they had to do a lot more work on this one. Easy would have been to let him go. Its not as if the parents of the bar girl had influence. So no pressure on them. Pretty sure that they have good evidence else they would not go through all this trouble for someone without influence or financial gain. Maybe a rat knows someone of influence that may be involved, so they need to convict.whatever the case may be, someone helped someone dissappear across the southern border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Well rats. It seems that some posters do not realize that their DNA is unique to them. If this duds DNA was found on the dead woman, well that is pretty good evidence that the pair were together and is good evidence against the Brit. Glad that he was finally located and will get justice somewhere for his crime. Geezer Tell that to the two Burmese that were convicted of the murders on Koh Tao after DNA evidence was found. Results came back within 6 hours (impossible) and written down on a scrap bit of paper. Result? Guilty. Lucky there was no remaining DNA evidence left to confirm the initial results. Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Tell that to the two Burmese that were convicted of the murders on Koh Tao after DNA evidence was found. Results came back within 6 hours (impossible) and written down on a scrap bit of paper. Result? Guilty. Lucky there was no remaining DNA evidence left to confirm the initial results. Phew. So your saying it was printed on a scrap of paper hand written and send to the judges and they did not comment. This is just a red herring. Judges have looked at the evidence (multiple) and they don't like extraditing people. So the evidence has to be strong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 15 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Story sounds daft, you'd have to be the stupidest person in the world to kill someone and use your suitcase and put rocks in you bought, also knowing police love CCTV as it's so easy to check. Some people are so gullible So how would you get a new suitcase ? I mean buy it someone will remember too even if its 2nd hand. So tell me how would you get a suitcase without anyone knowing. I mean they found out about the stones too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandsu Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said: The body was not cut into pieces. The victim was stuffed into the suitcase. A murder investigation was launched after Laxami's dismembered body was found stuffed into a suitcase dumped in a river 95 miles away in Kanchanaburi province on November 9. Full Story: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brit-accused-murdering-thai-woman-24513691 dismembered …… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, robblok said: So your saying it was printed on a scrap of paper hand written and send to the judges and they did not comment. This is just a red herring. Judges have looked at the evidence (multiple) and they don't like extraditing people. So the evidence has to be strong. Extradition hearings are not about the veracity of the prosecuting evidence. Spain has set laws on when extradition can be enforced. Guilt or innocence is not a factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 minute ago, chrisandsu said: A murder investigation was launched after Laxami's dismembered body was found stuffed into a suitcase dumped in a river 95 miles away in Kanchanaburi province on November 9. Full Story: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brit-accused-murdering-thai-woman-24513691 dismembered …… The mirror article has basic facts wrong. The body was discovered on the 6th November not as claimed in the article on the 9th. The corpse was still wearing clothes. I cannot find any initial report stating the body was dismembered . The first reports only state the victim was stuffed into the suitcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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