MrJ2U Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, placnx said: While Pfizer is a lot better than Sinovac, in Israel the latest news is that Pfizer is only 39% effective in preventing infection from Delta: https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/coronavirus/1626980447-vaccine-39-effective-at-halting-virus-transmission-91-against-serious-illness-israel-s-health-ministry-says So the Pfizer booster and an updated vaccine would help. Scary stuff this COVID-19. It mutates so damn fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raccos21 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Those Moderna shots only for HiSo not for the ordinary people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: Once the Army and various other favoured groups have had theirs. I think a lot of smart people who paid up front are going to end up out of pocket and without a vaccine. ... 555, nail on the head man, can't link on here, just search for ' Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine ' ... ... the protocol division of RTA of all outfits, now that's a LOL ... hardly one more useless! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sharecropper Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 I'm guessing Zuellig Pharma are the conduit for the pigs in the trough here. Anyone know who owns the Thai subsidiary? Why is a private company being used as middleman for the vaccines? I thought the manufacturers would only sell to the government? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Actually I heard it was October, with the latest being that the government is giving 1 million doses to the Red Cross to give to provincial heads to distribute to the poor, however the red cross selling it to them at 200 baht profit per dose, fricking unbelievable this country, also wife says a letter from a military head to the red cross was leaked asking the red cross to give these shots to a list of Hi So families if you can believe it ? I can believe it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, jollyhangmon said: ... 555, nail on the head man, can't link on here, just search for ' Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine ' ... ... the protocol division of RTA of all outfits, now that's a LOL ... hardly one more useless! Yes, I read that - unbelievable yet at the same time quite credible! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: More unanswered questions than answers: • How many shots will the Thai Red Cross siphon off before the prepaid Moderna becomes available? • How many prepaid Moderna accounts through the private hospitals? • Given the increased interest in Moderna, and the increasing caseload, why didn’t they order 10 million shots, or more? • Why did this take so damned long? Questions that need to be asked! I'm wondering who added "Thais that need to travel". I'll just send my family to Singapore for the weekend. Does that entitle them to Moderna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Nanaplaza666 said: They didn't have the money because they put it all in their deep pockets since the beginning of the outbreak when they said(and thought) everything was under controle . Now when it's time to pay up they say they don't have the money . But they have the money to keep on talking about subs and spaceships . I wonder if there is ever someome going to look into this moneygrabbing sceam . I think they thought that Grab delivery was doing so well they wanted Grab as well , only they Grabbed without giving any service . It isn't going to happen not in my life time because the people are so condition as just part of doing business! Ten years or close I read an article in the BK Post that the country loses 200 Billion a year due to their leaders corruption one has to wonder what is it today? In a survey Thai people feel a bit of corruption is good for the country paying graft for doing business is just part of doing business in this country as long as it is acceptable by citizens that are brainwashed and accept it these old swamp dogs will continue doing what they do best and past it down to their children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike k Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 13 hours ago, RichardColeman said: They need these vaccines now - not in 4-5 months ! Yes the military and their families are waiting for these vaccines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike k Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, thailand49 said: It isn't going to happen not in my life time because the people are so condition as just part of doing business! Ten years or close I read an article in the BK Post that the country loses 200 Billion a year due to their leaders corruption one has to wonder what is it today? In a survey Thai people feel a bit of corruption is good for the country paying graft for doing business is just part of doing business in this country as long as it is acceptable by citizens that are brainwashed and accept it these old swamp dogs will continue doing what they do best and past it down to their children. Well they have been brain washed to lay down and grovel at the feet of their masters 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mike k said: Well they have been brain washed to lay down and grovel at the feet of their masters Just go to Thai T.V. Channel 3, each evening and you will get more than you bargain. There is a saying I have living here " Monkey see Monkey do " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 hours ago, hotchilli said: Cut the fanfare, cut the BS publicity stunt... just get the vaccines in the country and into people. Fanfare is an essential part of the Thai culture. Often comes first! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mike k said: Yes the military and their families are waiting for these vaccines My wife's son is in the army. He's been vaccinated (Moderna) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, jollyhangmon said: ... 555, nail on the head man, can't link on here, just search for ' Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine ' ... ... the protocol division of RTA of all outfits, now that's a LOL ... hardly one more useless! Probably RTA really the force behind the Red Cross order of 1.1 million shots. At least I hope so. How else could Red Cross afford to prepay it? OK with me—as long as they don’t borrow shots from prepaid private hospital customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YaiJung Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 It was all over the news the last couple weeks...9 million people paid in advance for two shots each of Moderna. Why only 5 million doses ordered? What about the other 13 million doses that have already been paid for?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So enough for about 5% of people In 6 months). Hardly worthy of a photo op 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, RichardColeman said: They need these vaccines now - not in 4-5 months ! As does just about every other country in the world. Edited July 24, 2021 by shdmn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Once again, reported posts with derogatory terms/ references to vaccine have been removed. STOP IT. Any further instances may result in your ability to post being removed. Posts denigrating and calling Chinese vaccines useless and referring to it with derogatory names have been removed. Whilst it may be ineffective in certain cases i(e Delta strain) it is by no means useless. At the end of the day this is a Thai government sponsored vaccine and the forum and or yourself can get in trouble for comments like this so please stop it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 9:43 PM, internationalism said: wait, they suppose to sign it the last Monday. Gen Prayuth has spoken to them personally, at face to face meeting and shaking hands photo opportunity, on 19th April, just after coming back from his extended songran hooliday and did promise an immediate action, ie order. That was over 3 months ago. If signed and ordered on that day, this vax had a chance to be already in Thailand, even in initial, small quantities, just for medics I agree with you entirely. I get quite confused with all the head lines: Thailand agrees to buy 5 m Contract for 5M doses ready 5 M doses to be delivered and then 3 months later: "Thailand signs deal to buy..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 million, so enough to vaccinate 2.5 million people. Man it's gonna 2030 before Thailand vaccinates half the population. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 22 hours ago, Derek B said: By now there must be newer vaccines in the global works unless the "rich countries" have stopped bank rolling the research & development costs. I wonder about Novavax. "The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, cdemundo said: I wonder about Novavax. "The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ The US thinking was not to give it emergency approval because it wasn't considered necessary given the success of the vaccines already approved. Maybe with Delta that thinking will change. Of course, that shouldn't stop the rest of world from using it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: The US thinking was not to give it emergency approval because it wasn't considered necessary given the success of the vaccines already approved. Maybe with Delta that thinking will change. Of course, that shouldn't stop the rest of world from using it. It may have less vaccine hesitancy from those who have sincere concerns about new technology: "The protein-subunit approach used by Novavax was first implemented for the hepatitis B vaccine, which has been used in the U.S. since 1986. The pertussis vaccine, which is required for almost all children in U.S. public schools, is also made this way. Some of those people who have been wary of getting the mRNA vaccines may find Novavax more appealing." https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 4:10 PM, RotBenz8888 said: Strangest vaccin injection I ever seen. She'd get pricked. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 About time. My wife paid and ordered Moderna last month and was told it would be available in October. So obviously they never had the money for it and had to get the citizens to pay up front so they could buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 9:26 PM, wensiensheng said: How many more times are they going to announce this Moderna deal? These days it’s just embarrassing to hear about it again. We get it. 5 mil doses, December. Or in other words, too little, too late. Who are you talking about, the government, the newspaper, ThaiVisa? October is when it is coming, I heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 23 hours ago, raccos21 said: Those Moderna shots only for HiSo not for the ordinary people. Rubbish, they are only 3400 baht 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 3:18 AM, RichardColeman said: They need these vaccines now - not in 4-5 months ! Why so negative? October is 2 months 1 week away. There are other vaccines available, hence no rush. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 9:10 AM, hioctane said: Expected delivery was still 4th quarter. They are many countries ahead of the line. Probably the countries ahead in the line of Thailand have corruptly made their deals with the vaccine companies. Brazil is one example. The negative Nellies are out in force here, moaning about good news again. lack of vaccines in Thailand is due to corruption from other countries, not in Thailand, although there is some here. All the 'donations' to COVAX are not fair, with the richest countries getting vaccines first. I understand people getting scared, anxious, and paranoid that foreigners are being left out(untrue) but just relax, the government is doing a good job and you will get jabbed very soon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pracha Duang Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) On 7/23/2021 at 5:59 PM, MrJ2U said: No, its the Sinovac that doesn't work. mRNA vaccines are very effective against the Delta variant. Moderna will only be available to the private hospitals and smart people who paid in advance. Dude, literally just fly to the US tomorrow and go get the vaccine for free. Everyone I know that wants the vaccine in Thailand has already flown to the US to get it. If you’re really that scared of covid, what’s a few thousands bucks to go to the US and save your life? Treat it as vacation, the US is awesome. I’m personally not interested in getting the vaccine as the creator of the vaccine recently advised against young people getting it as we don’t know the long term side effects. For example, many believe mRNA vaccines will increase your odds of getting cancer later on in life. Too many unknowns for anyone under 50 to risk getting vaccinated. *Unapproved source edited out* Edited July 25, 2021 by Scott Unapproved source edited out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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