3 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

What I wonder is how the vaccines are handled after arriving.  Shipped in containers with dry ice that only lasts 24 hours I read somewhere.  Where do the Thai hospitals put them after 24 hours?  Pfizer vaccine must stay at 2-8 degrees!  I would assume 1.5 million doses take up a lot of space in the freezer

That a fair question and something that I wonder how it works too. However, it has been some information about it. Not remember where I read it, but I read they are only shipping the doses to hospitals that can store them after prescribed conditions. If so, let´s say there are a hundred hospitals that can, then that would only be 15 00 doses per hospital. Ok, it takes some space too. No real and definitive answer on that. ???? 

16 minutes ago, smedly said:

then you are working but not right now, same context in meaning - your income has stopped and that is what you are focused on 

 

Your teaching job would start much faster if this government hadn't made and is still making a total shambles of this pandemic - the sooner you realise that the better, this country will not see anything close to normality until 60m people have recieved at least 2 doses of an effective vaccine, the sooner you accept that the better 

Not sure why you appear to be stalking me. As it happens, I have been working throughout the lockdown as I teach online and exam testing face-to-face has never been stopped, so my income has not been greatly affected. Best to avoid making things personal and focus on the topic.

Here is what a lockdow in Thailand looks like

 

 

 

Huge crowds gather for vaccines in Phetchabun where gathers are limited to FIVE - Central Thailand - ASEAN NOW formerly Thai Visa Forum

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by smedly

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office is reporting 1,408 new cases today and 11 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (352), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (249), and Si Racha (369). There are now 20,215 patients in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1425971349290323970

 

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/13/chonburi-announces-1408-new-covid-19-cases-with-11-deaths/

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not sure why you appear to be stalking me. As it happens, I have been working throughout the lockdown as I teach online and exam testing face-to-face has never been stopped, so my income has not been greatly affected. Best to avoid making things personal and focus on the topic.

I am not stalking you - but you do attract criticism because of your constant foolish optimistic comments on here - there is nothing to be optimistic about in Thailand ..................... nothing

 

I have rarely commented on you your posts before and and will rarely do so going forward, I have said what I wanted to say for now 

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by smedly

8 minutes ago, smedly said:

I am not stalking you - but you do attract criticism because of your constant foolish optimistic comments on here - there is nothing to be optimistic about in Thailand ..................... nothing

 

I have rarely commented on you your posts before and and will rarely do so going forward, I have said what I wanted to say for now 

Thank you. I would appreciate it if you refrained from being overly personal. 

12 minutes ago, smedly said:

Here is what a lockdow in Thailand looks like

 

 

 

Huge crowds gather for vaccines in Phetchabun where gathers are limited to FIVE - Central Thailand - ASEAN NOW formerly Thai Visa Forum

how exactly is that representative of the lockdown ?  it is a failure to properly organize a vaccination center but hardly provides any insight into the lockdown and it's effectiveness.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, the comment I was replying to was very simple.  But your more detailed comment is interesting.  Is the fact that cases (and deaths?) in Vietnam are still rising despite the severe lockdown, attributable to the new strain or the ineffectiveness of the lockdown?

I'd say it already has had a noticable effect in Vietnam, just not enough to turn things around (yet?). Look at the graphs of Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand and compare with Vietnam. Up like a rocket vs. steady much slower increase. Delta is vicious.   

7 minutes ago, buick said:

how exactly is that representative of the lockdown ?  it is a failure to properly organize a vaccination center but hardly provides any insight into the lockdown and it's effectiveness.

exactly my point - you got it

2 hours ago, club said:

Think they arrived July 31. They had many Thai officials standing next the Acting US ambassador to Thailand when the doses got here. They did sit in a warehouse for 6 days before moving 

hope they were kept at the right temperature!!!!!!!

22 minutes ago, smedly said:

I am not stalking you - but you do attract criticism because of your constant foolish optimistic comments on here - there is nothing to be optimistic about in Thailand ..................... nothing

 

I have rarely commented on you your posts before and and will rarely do so going forward, I have said what I wanted to say for now 

foolish optimism! Really.

14 minutes ago, buick said:

how exactly is that representative of the lockdown ?  it is a failure to properly organize a vaccination center but hardly provides any insight into the lockdown and it's effectiveness.

Yes it does. 

TIMELINE: Pattaya area informs residents who visited places in relation to the most recent Chonburi confirmed Covid –19 cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/13/timeline-pattaya-area-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-the-most-recent-chonburi-confirmed-covid-19-cases/

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

TIMELINE: Pattaya area informs residents who visited places in relation to the most recent Chonburi confirmed Covid –19 cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/13/timeline-pattaya-area-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-the-most-recent-chonburi-confirmed-covid-19-cases/

Watsons in Klang.Centralmeat section! 

Sorry a little late:

 

PCR tests, total of 23,418 Official new infections, with 388 of those from prison and 23,030 from community.  

184 Official covid deaths recorded.

 

Rapid tests positive cases, 1,523 bringing the Unofficial total to 24,941

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 9th Aug) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases from daily official announcements.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

1 hour ago, buick said:

for thailand, the 7 day avg, daily death number on july 15 was 81.  on aug 1 it was 133.  as of aug 12 it is 182.  so increase of 52 over 81 is 64%.  increase of 49 over 133 is 37%.  as i've said before, i'm not an expert in math, statistics, calculus, etc..  but i think that tells you the rate of increase is slowing.  and i'd still attach a label of 'growing fast' but at least not as much.

 

you can see the data on this link (scroll to daily new deaths and click the 7 day moving average):

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/thailand/

I am no expert in maths either but your first figure is based on 17 days while the second is based on 11. I assume you took this into account when calculating the percentages. 

Another awful image of children losing a parent and having nobody to look after them. It was reported a couple of weeks ago that 5,000 children had lost parents so far, the numbers just keep rising.

 

"2 brothers lost their mother cured of covid Admission to the children's home waiting for the foster family"

https://twitter.com/KhaosodOnline/status/1425855769463820299

 

 

Migrant workers bear brunt of Thailand's Covid outbreak

 

Migrant workers in Thailand continue to get infected with Covid-19 in disproportionately large numbers as a result of their unsanitary housing and work conditions, according to labor rights activists.

In the latest case from Aug. 11, migrant workers from Myanmar were found on the resort island of Phuket to have been infected with the coronavirus at fresh markets, in factories and on fishing boats.

Infection rates among the workers at markets and in their dormitories exceeded 10 percent, according to officials.

 

https://www.ucanews.com/news/migrant-workers-bear-brunt-of-thailands-covid-outbreak/93674#

Tons of bad COVID news today, apart from the 184 new COVID deaths:

 

Record high number of new COVID cases at 23,418 (+636), first time passing the 23,000 mark

 

Record high number of COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition at 5,565 (+70)

 

Record high number of critical COVID patients on ventilators at 1,111 (+8)

 

Past five days new case tallies:

 

Aug. 9 -- 19,603

Aug. 10 -- 19,843

Aug. 11 -- 21,038

Aug. 12 -- 22,782

Aug. 13 -- 23,418

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

One of our teachers shared her experience of her family all getting #COVID19. Her symptoms weren’t too bad, but her father and grandmother weren’t so lucky. They died. But the saddest part was that they couldn’t attend the cremation in person. It had to be done by video call.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1426052163583713280

 

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Sorry a little late:

 

PCR tests, total of 23,418 Official new infections, with 388 of those from prison and 23,030 from community.  

184 Official covid deaths recorded.

 

Rapid tests positive cases, 1,523 bringing the Unofficial total to 24,941

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 9th Aug) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases from daily official announcements.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

You haven't been active in TVF during the last few days, trust all is well.

27 minutes ago, rott said:

Yes it does. 

please explain ?  what do crowds at a vaccination center tell you about the effectiveness of the lockdown ?

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

You haven't been active in TVF during the last few days, trust all is well.

All well thanks. Learnt one of the rules is not to mention a headline as clic##$t. ????

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by Bkk Brian

#COVID19 #Thailand update on Friday:

 

23,418 new cases (+9 from abroad)

184 new deaths

212,179 patients in care

5,565 in ICU and 1,111 on ventilators

20,083 discharged from care

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1426055454182887424

 

20 minutes ago, rott said:

I am no expert in maths either but your first figure is based on 17 days while the second is based on 11. I assume you took this into account when calculating the percentages. 

i was going with approx two weeks but you are correct, i didn't count the exact days.  i'll make the count again when we hit 17 days in the second period.

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by buick

 

From the total number of confirmed cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 17,642 were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

- 5,767via proactive tests at known clusters

- 9 imported cases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1426055110057099269

 

Latest Phuket community infections, the steady rise continues. These are not due to the sandbox tourists but mainly through local spread. Last year Phuket quickly got it under control with a swift and harsh lockdown, worked very well. Now with tourists here they are limited in what they can do. I'm worried abut the situation here.

Numbers are from the official announcements taken from here. https://www.facebook.com/NewshawkPhuket

 

48 minutes ago, buick said:

how exactly is that representative of the lockdown ?  it is a failure to properly organize a vaccination center but hardly provides any insight into the lockdown and it's effectiveness.

Super Spreader Event.  

Update on the two Thai girl who watched their mother die:

2 Thai girls who watched mom die now up for adoption

Two girls who watched their mother die of COVID-19 at home, a slice of grief that broke hearts nationwide, are at their new home today, an orphanage in the southeast metro area. 

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/2-thai-girls-who-watched-mom-die-now-up-for-adoption/

 

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

It's not down to new strain. That would be headline world news.

As for lockdowns.....they don't stop the spread. They are hopefully slowing spread down. That's simply buying time for vaccination program and to hopefully avoid collapse of medical support.

Yes Vietnam has restrictions such as 6pm curfew etc. The increase in cases and deaths being labeled a "lockdown failure" would only be truly known if we had numbers for NO lockdown. Meaning what would situation be in Vietnam if they did zero restrictions.

Actually it is, and it did! But as usual the real story is more complicated.

 

Vietnam has had many variants including Alpha and kept them all at bay until  Delta hit. Then you see the classic slowly rising curve that explodes in June.

 

In early June they did report a new variant of Delta that acquired a major mutation found in UK-Alpha, spike deletion Y144del. The made global headline news and its genome registered in the International GISAID database.

 

But then Vietnam reported it as a recombination which is technically the wrong word. WHO pounced on them for using a scary word and the MSM buried the story. Lucky, most of what is in Vietnam is still basic Delta, which is so infective it is hard to replace. The sharp upturn may have been due to this variant.  

 

GISAID genome EPI_ISL_2373110: Delta variant with Alpha mutation in red:

 
AA Substitutions:     

Spike A222V, Spike D614G, Spike D950N, Spike E156G, Spike F157del, Spike G142D, Spike L452R, Spike P681R, Spike R158del, Spike T19R, Spike T478K, Spike Y144del, M I82T, N D63G, N D377Y, N R203M, NS3 S26L, NS7a T120I, NS7a V82A, NSP2 P200S, NSP3 P822L, NSP4 A446V, NSP6 T181I, NSP6 V149A, NSP12 G671S, NSP12 P323L, NSP13 P77L

 

Link to full story:

https://theconversation.com/is-a-hybrid-covid-strain-behind-vietnams-latest-wave-not-exactly-161879

Edited August 13, 20214 yr by rabas