This Isn’t the Fall of Saigon in Kabul.....or is it?

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

i am just absolutely astounded that they would leave this  :    and helicopters, 

40 aircraft potentially including UH-60 Black Hawks, scout attack helicopters

100's of ScanEagle military drones

600,000 infantry weapons including M16 assault rifles, 162,000 pieces of communication equipment, and 16,000 night-vision goggle devices.

 

I mean this cost BIG $$$  .....      

 

For all of you on about equipment. Most security experts believe little of intrinsic value was left behind. For example the Blackhawks are first gen from the 80s...

[Tanomazu]

52 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Do you mean 911?

Because these Saudis were part of an international terrorist organization called Al Queda, which has a presence in many countries with many nationalities.

 

It wasn't a "Saudi" attack, it was an Al Queda attack. It would have been a Saudi attack if sanctioned by the Saudi government. It wasn't.

 

If you can get past nationalities, it's easy to understand.

If each attacker was of a different nationality, what would you then call it?

 

The plan for 911 was hatched in Afghanistan. The USA demanded that the planners in the attack be handed over (like Osama Bin Laden and Sheik someone). At that time these people were sheltering in Afghanistan with the blessing of the ruling Taliban. They refused to hand them over, so America attacked.

 

The mystery is why the USA went into Iraq. Saddam Hussein had these terrorist groups suppressed as he saw them as a danger to his own despotic rule. Iraq had nothing at all to do with 911, neither did any of it's citizens.

 

 

Obviously he was joking about 711. And he is absolutely right, the attackers were Saudi Arabian, the master mind was Saudi Arabian.

 

The plan for 911 was not hatched in Afghanistan, it was hatched in Hamburg, Germany.

 

But yes, America was enraged with visions of vengeance, so Afghanistan harbouring Ben Laden led to the attack.

 

It's not at all a mystery why Iraq was attacked. The masterminds were Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, all very friendly with Israel. Iraq was a major threat to Israel.

Edited August 20, 2021 by Tanomazu

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

It wasn't a "Saudi" attack, it was an Al Queda attack. It would have been a Saudi attack if sanctioned by the Saudi government. It wasn't.

Nearly all the attackers were Saudi nationals.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, mikebike said:

For all of you on about equipment. Most security experts believe little of intrinsic value was left behind. For example the Blackhawks are first gen from the 80s...

aha ....  but realistically they can fly and shoot targets ?  the 2000+ armored military vehicles can carry alot of ammuntion and can shoot at targets ?   the scout attack helicopters can fly and shoot targets ?  

the boxes and boxes of firearms ..... weapons and military equipment can be used against any target.

The security experts say it's value is inturistic,  maybe to the US but to the Taliban it's the lottery. 

 

Just an absolute waist of taxpayers money and totally irresponsible and crazy to let the enemy have it.

very bad management by someone .... absolutely no common sense. 

 

They might as well left a christmas card for the Taliban on every Hummvee .

 

but that's just my opinion and i'm no army expert or security intel' guy.

[KarenBravo]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Nearly all the attackers were Saudi nationals.

So what?

They all belonged to Al Queda.