Ostland Capital, the firm which won the bidding to supply the Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) with 8.5 million rapid antigen test kits (ATKs), worth almost 600 million baht, has asked Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha to reconsider his instruction to the GPO that the ATKs must be approved by the World Health Organization (WHO).

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-pm-urged-to-review-suspension-of-deal-to-buy-8-5-million-china-made-atks/

Thailand is considering third booster shots for other groups besides front-line medical workers, the Ministry of Public Health said on Friday. (1/2) #Thailand #Covid19 #โควิด19 #วัคซีนโควิด

 

This is going to be for people who have received two doses of inactivated vaccines such as Sinovac, especially the ones that have been vaccinated since March, they added. (2/2)

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1428618267317346304

 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Death always count but it depends how you look at it, this is the official dashboard with deaths from 1st April. It gives a perspective on the current wave rather than last year. From that we can see the difference in mortality rates with the original strain and alpha/delta strains.

Completely agree Brian, but Delta has savaged everywhere. When we look at the figures of overall infection we have to remember that Thailand is the 20th most populous country, the fact it is higher up the table than countries with less population is not a surprise to me.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Death always count but it depends how you look at it, this is the official dashboard with deaths from 1st April. It gives a perspective on the current wave rather than last year. From that we can see the difference in mortality rates with the original strain and alpha/delta strains.

Different perspectives are always good but at the end of the day all deaths are equal and it’s the total death rates that count even if it means the charts don’t appear as dramatic. 
 

Jist my opinion of course.  

2 minutes ago, sungod said:

Completely agree Brian, but Delta has savaged everywhere. When we look at the figures of overall infection we have to remember that Thailand is the 20th most populous country, the fact it is higher up the table than countries with less population is not a surprise to me.

 

 

I completely accept that but the government is classifying this as the 3rd wave and so all stats published are from the 1st April including deaths, hence why posters also refer to that, if you take a look at the daily published graphics and updates its all from 1st April aside from vaccinations of course.

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/190864.pdf

11 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Different perspectives are always good but at the end of the day all deaths are equal and it’s the total death rates that count even if it means the charts don’t appear as dramatic. 
 

Jist my opinion of course.  

Nobody said all deaths are not equal though did they? Whats your point?

 

Its the only way to get the correct stats for this wave. Thats why the CCSA publish it that way.

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Bkk Brian

55 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Includes 3rd booster doses:

 

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 66: 570,865

DAY 67: 219,840 <— holiday

DAY 68: 683,832

DAY 69: 284,378 <— Saturday

DAY 70: 162,511 <— Sunday

DAY 71: 508,498

DAY 72: 518,118

DAY 73: 548,311

DAY 74: 651,606

TOTAL: 21,718,145 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428606762626600962

 

You would have to be some kind of fool to believe those numbers.

From

https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1428606683958317057/photo/1

 

Here is the graph for Sisaket - the land of few vaccines (I know of no Thai in my circle who has had a vaccination). 350+ per day the new normal.

 

Getting desperate:

 

150,000 doses of AstraZeneca vaccine have just arrived in #Thailand from Bhutan. This is part of a deal to return the same amount at a later date. The vaccine will be distributed within 2-3 days

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428627032196272130

NBT are correct.  860,777 doses were administered yesterday (total of 1st, 2nd and 3rd shots)

 

Why therefore are TNR only showing 651,606 doses (total of 1st, 2nd and 3rd shots)?

 

Can someone explain please.  Am I missing something?

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/20/recap-thailand-reports-19851-daily-covid-19-infections-with-240-additional-deaths/

 

how deaths in Thailand are recorded is a very grey area 

 

in the west every death must be recorded and attended by a medical professional with a COD recorded on DC - in Thailand that is not the case - a common misconception made by some posters on these forums - the recorded and published deaths from covid reported  in these daily reports are from hospitals only, so deaths from covid are as accurate as detected cases - not very accurate and likely very undereported 

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by smedly

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

NBT are correct.  860,777 doses were administered yesterday (total of 1st, 2nd and 3rd shots)

 

Why therefore are TNR only showing 651,606 doses (total of 1st, 2nd and 3rd shots)?

 

Can someone explain please.  Am I missing something?

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/20/recap-thailand-reports-19851-daily-covid-19-infections-with-240-additional-deaths/

 

And this has just been posted:

 

There seems to be a discrepancy about the number of doses of vaccine administered yesterday. The graphic on the left is the one usually used in the CCSA briefing that shows total for 3 jabs as 651,606. However on the right it says this is just for first jab. Which is correct?

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428634971208437765

 

54 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

You would have to be some kind of fool to believe those numbers.

651k geezus. Let's try for the even million.

1 hour ago, sungod said:

So the people who died before Delta dont register with you?

 

I'll count deaths in total, and as pointed out to another poster not some made up time scale by a poster on here.

 

Shame, your other arguments seems very intelligent.

Your inference that I don't care about people who died before this third wave says more about you than me. As for a made up time scale can you explain this....

 

"(Total infections since April 1: 980,847)" This is clearly stated in the above article. Indeed "since April 1" is stated everyday.  This is a time scale in regards to the 3rd wave as it is clearly distinquishable from the 1st and 2nd waves. 

 

By the way 8,732 people have died from covid since April 1. Before that the number of deaths were 94. In the same 'time scale' i.e. since April 1 4,573 deaths from covid were reported in the UK.

 

 

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by dinsdale

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Friday

Total: 19,841

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158210659527050

Onwards and upwards for Phuket unfortunately and this is without the 77 new positive cases from rapid tests. (chart data from official numbers)

https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter/posts/369165681405281

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Bkk Brian

30 minutes ago, anchadian said:

And this has just been posted:

 

There seems to be a discrepancy about the number of doses of vaccine administered yesterday. The graphic on the left is the one usually used in the CCSA briefing that shows total for 3 jabs as 651,606. However on the right it says this is just for first jab. Which is correct?

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428634971208437765

 

This is a screenshot from the CCSA briefing where it clearly says the total is 641,606 doses which is already very high. However some Thai media outlets are saying the total is 860,777 and the first jab is 641,606. Notice the 2nd and 3rd jabs match in all graphics #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428638547116916738

 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Onwards and upwards for Phuket unfortunately and this is without the 77 new positive cases from rapid tests. 

https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter/posts/369165681405281

Didn't I hear correctly, I understood that at the start of the Sandbox if they experienced over 90 new cases a week, the Sandbox would be cancelled.

36000 cases plus in the U.K. yesterday and 113 deaths and that’s with the majority of the population vaccinated. I think Thailand needs to rethink its strategy as lockdowns might reduce the numbers initially but you can’t stay locked down forever, as soon as you open the numbers will increase again.

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Didn't I hear correctly, I understood that at the start of the Sandbox if they experienced over 90 new cases a week, the Sandbox would be cancelled.

They also said that they would vaccinate 70% of the island before 1st July, that never happened either.

21 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Your inference that I don't care about people who died before this third wave says more about you than me. As for a made up time scale can you explain this....

 

"(Total infections since April 1: 980,847)" This is clearly stated in the above article. Indeed "since April 1" is stated everyday.  This is a time scale in regards to the 3rd wave as it is clearly distinquishable from the 1st and 2nd waves. 

 

By the way 8,732 people have died from covid since April 1. Before that the number of deaths were 94. In the same 'time scale' i.e. since April 1 4,573 deaths from covid were reported in the UK.

 

 

So nothing changes, quote as many figures as you want,  still 140 in the world for deaths per 1m people.

 

 

47 minutes ago, smedly said:

how deaths in Thailand are recorded is a very grey area 

 

in the west every death must be recorded and attended by a medical professional with a COD recorded on DC - in Thailand that is not the case - a common misconception made by some posters on these forums - the recorded and published deaths from covid reported  in these daily reports are from hospitals only, so deaths from covid are as accurate as detected cases - not very accurate and likely very undereported 

@Kadiloglad you found this funny 

 

you were borderline for my ignore list with your constant baiting nonsense 

 

you are either challenged or just baiting on these threads, either way your contribution is something I no long feel offers any value 

 

bye

20 August 2021-- An update from the Thai government regarding Thailand's #COVID19 situation, reporting from the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA)

 

 

17 minutes ago, sungod said:

So nothing changes, quote as many figures as you want,  still 140 in the world for deaths per 1m people.

 

 

And that number still remains irrelevant to Thailand's horrific Delta spike killing hundreds daily, which is the subject of this thread.  It is a smoky mirror.

Took a screenshot of this from my TV. Hope you find it useful. 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

They also said that they would vaccinate 70% of the island before 1st July, that never happened either.

…….and it’s still been a success so an excellent decision to proceed. 
 

How many foreigners have died? Ended up in hospital on ventilators?

 

How many have had a great holiday away after being locked down for months?

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Kadilo

1 hour ago, smedly said:

how deaths in Thailand are recorded is a very grey area 

 

in the west every death must be recorded and attended by a medical professional with a COD recorded on DC - in Thailand that is not the case - a common misconception made by some posters on these forums - the recorded and published deaths from covid reported  in these daily reports are from hospitals only, so deaths from covid are as accurate as detected cases - not very accurate and likely very undereported 

Yes some may find your post amusing and even call them conspiracy theories but the reality of covid death is far from that:

 

Evidence from the Forensic doctor in Bangkok who stated that he was coming across around 4 cases a day of people who had died from covid unrecorded without being tested in just one hospital, he only found out because he did the tests himself but stated that not all hospitals do that as they do not have the time or money.

 

The mortality rate of Thai people in May and June 2021 increased by about 12 percent and 17.5 percent, respectively, compared to the same month in the past five years. People aged 65-74 and aged 85 and over had high excess mortality rates of 22% and 26 percent, respectively, in June (Graph 1).

https://tdri.or.th/2021/07/report-2years-prayut-cabinet2/

5 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

…….and it’s still been a success so an excellent decision to proceed. 

What exactly has that got to do with my post of them promising to vaccinate 70% of the population before 1st July and then failing to do so, ie breaking their promise? 

 

Being a success would not have a growing spread of delta cases with the highest ever peak recorded yesterday, I personally know more than a handful of people including children who have come down with it, its not been a success for them.

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Bkk Brian

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes some may find your post amusing and even call them conspiracy theories but the reality of covid death is far from that:

 

Evidence from the Forensic doctor in Bangkok who stated that he was coming across around 4 cases a day of people who had died from covid unrecorded without being tested in just one hospital, he only found out because he did the tests himself but stated that not all hospitals do that as they do not have the time or money.

 

The mortality rate of Thai people in May and June 2021 increased by about 12 percent and 17.5 percent, respectively, compared to the same month in the past five years. People aged 65-74 and aged 85 and over had high excess mortality rates of 22% and 26 percent, respectively, in June (Graph 1).

https://tdri.or.th/2021/07/report-2years-prayut-cabinet2/

How many extra Thai people are to die of starvation, malnutrition, depression, suicide, etc etc on the next 10 years?……..and not just the elderly. 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I personally know more than a handful of people including children who have come down with it, its not been a success for them.

Yes and I personally know hundreds that haven’t ? Your point? We should lock everyone up, shut  the schools, shut the factories, ruin people’s life’s and futures because sadly a lot of predominately older people, many with pre conditions, have passed away. 
 

The children argument is just a heart string puller. 
 

We all known most get a snotty nose and a few days later are out playing again. 
 

Of course there will be the odd headline grabber. 

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Kadilo

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

And this has just been posted:

 

There seems to be a discrepancy about the number of doses of vaccine administered yesterday. The graphic on the left is the one usually used in the CCSA briefing that shows total for 3 jabs as 651,606. However on the right it says this is just for first jab. Which is correct?

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428634971208437765

 

UPDATE: The Thai Ministry of Public Health has just tweeted a corrected version of their graphic for the number of doses of vaccination administered. It now says the total is 651,696 doses and not 860,777. Thank you. #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1428654105182957568