Thai Tourism Minister visits Pattaya to discuss “Move On” reopening plan, plan to be presented to CCSA this Friday

[VBF]

2 hours ago, pepi2005 said:

Reality, however, doesn't agree with your hope.

 

A look at Israel, Island, the UK, and now starting in the US (look at what's going on in West Virginia: 26% increase of positive cases with 'fully' vaccinated) illustrates that pretty much all the vaccine does is to help creating new mutations (exactly like the Influenza vaccines did) and make the vaccinated more vulnerable for them.

Yes but AGAIN I'll point out that, in UK at least, these so-called "positive cases" are mainly asymptomatic, are not actually sick and therefore are certainly not in hospital or dying.

As I've said for the last year, these "cases" should be referred to as "Covid-positive people" - the word "cases" should be reserved for the unfortunates who are truly sick.

Edited September 13, 2021 by VBF

[Tonypandy]

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I was watching a popular American youtuber the other day in the Jupitor area of Florida.

He's just got over a bout of Covid which knocked him for six, he also gave it to his wife and two daughters.

Previous to getting infected he would post videos of himself going around, mixing with all sorts of people, no mask, no social distancing nothing, and eventually got nailed.

After being fully quarantined at home he eventually got better.

Now he's out and about again, guess what.... same as before, no mask, no distancing never learned a damned thing.

His latest video was at a national drag race circuit, thousands of people there.. none protecting themselves, ridiculous.

 

 

Get used to it, or hibernate 

[LongTimeLurker]

3 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

And all the time you could be a potential spreader because you have selfishly decided not to get Vaxxed

 

And even if you HAVE been vaxxed you could STILL be a potential spreader.

[bullseye66]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand needs to get its own house in order before starting to entertain foreign tourists and then they need to drop all the B S red tape and money gouging restrictions  - either open fully or don't bother, if you can't even open to your own local population how on earth are you ready for foreign visitors - all this is a political message to make the government look good in the news - the truth is something entirely different - "look we are opening up" just doesn't cut it on any level - Thailand is far from open or ready

Correct.

[DefaultName]

2 hours ago, pepi2005 said:

to be specific: Thais older than 75 years.

But of course, you are free to continue to be scared if you want.

Oh well, if it's only those 75+ who die, that's all right then is it?  Someone would have to be a sorry excuse for a human being to even consider that acceptable.

[Bkktodd]

8 hours ago, Rocking Robert said:

Millions of Americans USA went to football stadiums this past weekend jampacked stadiums without mask just keeping the economy going got to love them 

Vaccinated only 

[charmonman]

So why, in a country with a relatively low vaccination rate and a relatively high infection rate, do they insist on treating fully vaccinated people from places with relatively low infection rates as if THEY are the problem?

[Bkktodd]

1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

And even if you HAVE been vaxxed you could STILL be a potential spreader.

But if others are vaxxed then its no different than spreading the flu….or a cold.  Remember those days.??? So many died of the flu every year.  Flu shots are advised during thecwinter flu season  for elderly .  

[charmonman]

1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

And even if you HAVE been vaxxed you could STILL be a potential spreader.

Yes, possible but far less likely according to scientific studies. 

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, Tonypandy said:

Get used to it, or hibernate 

Or hurt someone in your own family... yeah great idea.
Lose a daughter see how that feels?

[sawadee1947]

7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I was watching a popular American youtuber the other day in the Jupitor area of Florida.

He's just got over a bout of Covid which knocked him for six, he also gave it to his wife and two daughters.

Previous to getting infected he would post videos of himself going around, mixing with all sorts of people, no mask, no social distancing nothing, and eventually got nailed.

After being fully quarantined at home he eventually got better.

Now he's out and about again, guess what.... same as before, no mask, no distancing never learned a damned thing.

His latest video was at a national drag race circuit, thousands of people there.. none protecting themselves, ridiculous.

 

 

Those ignorants you'll find Not only in US unfortunately ????

[FinChin67]

Plans change but some of us are eager to get there... 

[mickyr55]

5 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

And all the time you could be a potential spreader because you have selfishly decided not to get Vaxxed

 

Do you not understand ???????

Being vaccinated does not protect you from catching or spreading Covid, it hopefully minimises the chances of you the vaccinated either being ill enough to be hospitalised or worse case scenario dying, so the person who is not vaccinated is the one who selfishly will fill the hospital or morgue. 

[Bkktodd]

Bring back the 7 day quarantine plus tests as planned last april.  Reasonable enough as fully vaxxed and tested poise the least risk 

[Mike k]

7 hours ago, deesquared said:

America is 75% vaxxed now.

My brother and sister and their kids minus 1 were vaccinated the first of the year why 1 niece did not get the vaccine I don't know 

[Mike k]

2 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Oh well, if it's only those 75+ who die, that's all right then is it?  Someone would have to be a sorry excuse for a human being to even consider that acceptable.

My wife is 71 and she will not get the vaccine I'm 64 and the only reason I will get it is because it will probably be tied in with my retirement extension 

[2ndhomepattaya]

6 hours ago, Dart12 said:

The whole set up is to now have you always have to ask permission to have your basic freedoms, which can be revoked instantly...if we, as citizens, allow them to gain that control.

Beats dying needlessly

[natway09]

At least he may remember where Pattaya is now !!!

[sandyf]

17 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Pattaya is NOT going to 'Move On' until all these daft Thailand entry restriction have gone. It's a complete waste of time and man hours even talking about it. But I guess it's all about making them look busy and deserving of an income.

Tell us, how does this make the UK entry requirements look, has "daft" been breached?

 

A law firm representing travellers is taking the government to court over the UK's quarantine hotel policy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58538885

[smudger1951]

17 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Pattaya is NOT going to 'Move On' until all these daft Thailand entry restriction have gone. It's a complete waste of time and man hours even talking about it. But I guess it's all about making them look busy and deserving of an income.

Just endless prevarication. As Kenneth Williams would say; "Stop messin about"

[smudger1951]

16 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand needs to get its own house in order before starting to entertain foreign tourists and then they need to drop all the B S red tape and money gouging restrictions  - either open fully or don't bother, if you can't even open to your own local population how on earth are you ready for foreign visitors - all this is a political message to make the government look good in the news - the truth is something entirely different - "look we are opening up" just doesn't cut it on any level - Thailand is far from open or ready

Regrettfully, you are absolutely correct. !

[smudger1951]

7 hours ago, charmonman said:

So why, in a country with a relatively low vaccination rate and a relatively high infection rate, do they insist on treating fully vaccinated people from places with relatively low infection rates as if THEY are the -

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by smudger1951

[Jeffr2]

14 hours ago, at15 said:

You have this amazing thing called an immune system. It will protect you from cold and flu viruses. Turn off the news please.

Ummmm....covid isn’t a normal cold or flu virus. Please, start reading the proper news.

Edited September 13, 2021 by Jeffr2

[Jeffr2]

16 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Psst meanwhile  Denmark has dropped all of their corona restrictions. 

Which was done for political reasons. Not done by meducational experts.

[smedly]

19 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Tell us, how does this make the UK entry requirements look, has "daft" been breached?

you are looking at entry requirements from Red List Countries into the UK

 

That is not what Thailand is doing - with their tourist entry requirements they have basically red listed all foreign entries vaccinated or not or some form of mix of protocol - either way it is all designed to gouge money through expensive hotels to multiple tests - they have green listed no one and no country

 

Alternatively the UK and other western countries have green list countries were there are no restrictions - amber being slightly more 

[Call]

About the picture, possible some condos for sale at the building to the left? Great location, to move in ????

 

[cclub75]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Ummmm....covid isn’t a normal cold or flu virus. Please, start reading the proper news.

99 % of the population on this planet... beg to differ.

 

For them, Covid is nothing but a cold. Or a small flu.

 

Most of them do not even feel... a thing. Not even a running nose.

 

Please, start reading the proper news.

[paulikens]

12 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

And all the time you could be a potential spreader because you have selfishly decided not to get Vaxxed

 

@Cake Monster except that you can spread it if you been vaccinated, so that isn't a argument.  

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, cclub75 said:

99 % of the population on this planet... beg to differ.

 

For them, Covid is nothing but a cold. Or a small flu.

 

Most of them do not even feel... a thing. Not even a running nose.

 

Please, start reading the proper news.

99% is an inaccurate stat. Every country has admitted to under counting cases and deaths. 

 

You also seem to be unaware of long covid. Wow.

 

Catch up!

[smedly]

9 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

And even if you HAVE been vaxxed you could STILL be a potential spreader.

10 times less likely - that is pretty good protection

 

there are a lot of people posting inaccurate information on this thread 

 

Vaccines protect against -

 

- getting infected to the point were the virus takes hold and multiplies (generally termed as infected)

- infected and spreading

- becoming symptomatic  

- becoming seriously ill

- needing medical treatment

- being hospitalised 

- becoming seriously ill 

- becoming dead