nattaya09 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 And what's worst, 84% of the population isn't fully vaxed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 A lot of these announcements both in Thailand and in the US feel like marketing stats. I empathize with the vax resistant in some respects. (fully vaxxed by the way, teen children included) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Anti vaxxers, are you listening? Yes, but very selectively...... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifly88 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Age of deaths Underlying conditions Vaccines help mid level people. Strong people dont need it. Weak die anyway. Same with flu vaccines. If you take vit d, zinc eat onions and berries for quercetin your immune system is s o much stronger. You were doing well before the last sentence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHargreaves Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Does anybody know if/where Thailand publishes all cause mortality data? The only data I was able to find was a yearly estimate of around 600,000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiteman9 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Anti vaxxers, are you listening? Maybe you should be asking the people in charge of ordering enough vaccines soon enough which has caused the 11 thousand+ deaths if they are listening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Anti vaxxers, are you listening? It has nothing to do wth Anti-Vaxxers and everything to do with the availability of the vaccines and the quality of of those vaccines for every man, woman and child in the country. I bet plenty of the fatalities, just could not get the vaccine in time and wanted it. I am vaccinated, twice, but I also believe it to be a choice, a basic freedom and each person assesses their own risk. So less of the anti-vaxxers and more empathy for those who probably wanted a vaccine and could not get it. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aussieroaming Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 A lot of sick or dead people can lay the blame of their illness at the feet of the government. This wasn't due to being anti-vaccer's but rather due to being denied prompt vaccination. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenHargreaves Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Only in Thailand do 12 day old babies die from COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said: No anti vaxxer, but listening. And I hear: This data says nothing. You need to know the percentage of fully vaxxed, half vaxxed and non vaxxed people and set it into relation. What a BS There are also a lot of people that have had covid19 and have a natural immunity to it. Which class does that fall into? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tandor Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 ...What !!!...hardly fair to lay the blame on the poor deceased, when you have failed miserably in vaccinating your people..wake up Thailand...always shifting the blame onto those who have no voice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Over 84% of those who have died from COVID-19 in Thailand were not vaccinated, or did not have an official record of vaccination, and 7.2% had received just one vaccine dose, according to the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA). Something Prayut and Anutin can be proud of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 This type of news is the same in Canada and the USA, in Alberta, the newest spike the number of people in hospital is the highest it has been. The unvaccinated people are the ones who will be sickest. That is a given. In Thailand, I doubt that there are a lot of anti vaxxers, as compared to the numbers in North America. Good luck Thailand, I hope that all of you expats and the Thai people can get your 2 shots soon. Be happy that you do not live in Africa, or exist in some refugee camp somewhere. As well as the countries that are in a war condition. Those people will likely not be getting any vaccines for the next year or so yet. Geezer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Age of deaths Underlying conditions Vaccines help mid level people. Strong people dont need it. Weak die anyway. Same with flu vaccines. If you take vit d, zinc eat onions and berries for quercetin your immune system is s o much stronger. Thx doc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post XJPSX Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Not a surprising figure when only 15% of the population is fully vaccinated. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said: A lot of sick or dead people can lay the blame of their illness at the feet of the government. This wasn't due to being anti-vaccer's but rather due to being denied prompt vaccination. Perhaps. Yet, taking responsibility for one's health/safety by not practices mitigation protocol. Largely, folks become infected because they are careless, indifferent, or ignorant. But still we'll be looking for a scapegoat to blame. The Government. Even if they have mismanaged this whole affair and criminal in their practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, XJPSX said: Not a surprising figure when only 15% of the population is fully vaccinated. Actually, if much closer to 18% and rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Sparktrader said: 84/10 = 8.4% About right. 10 times less death as doctors say. Anyone who thinks vaccines stop deaths are out of touch. Just reduces risk in mid level cases. Very weak people die regardless. 12239/13637 of fatalities ,90%,had serious underlying diseases. So the vaccine did not provide protection for some percent of those 12239. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Until recently only 16% of thais were fully vaccinated so isn't it obvious that if Covid deaths were spread evenly across the population 84% would be unvaccinated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChasingTheSun Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 16% of fatalities were vaccinated with the experimental vaccines? That is a sign the experimental vaccines are not working. Giving pregnant women an experimental vaccine? What could possibly go wrong? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Age of deaths Underlying conditions Vaccines help mid level people. Strong people dont need it. Weak die anyway. Same with flu vaccines. If you take vit d, zinc eat onions and berries for quercetin your immune system is s o much stronger. Surprised you didn't mention gargling with salt water, drinking or injecting bleach, ingesting ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. LOL 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, EricTh said: What do you mean by 'no official record of vaccination'? I thought everyone vaccinated in Thailand has an official record. That may be a or soul who was conned and got a shot of gif knows what and no paperwork because it was not an official vax location. Or they didn’t know to get paperwork at a legit site and just toddled off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nanaplaza666 Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Anti vaxxers, are you listening? 13,637 people died between April 1st and September 9th this year, with 95.82% of them dying in hospital. The eldest was 109 years old and the youngest was just 12 days. The median age is 67 and 12,239 had underlying diseases, with most being diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, kidney disease and obesity. Anti vaxxers are you listening ??? Are you ?? I am not an anti vaxxer just got my second jab yesterday . But out of 13.637 people that died more then 12.000 had underlying diseases and those 13.637 people died in a timespan of 6 months on a population of 68.000.000 you think that's a lot ?? I would like to know how many people with those underlying deseases die in 6 months ,not from or with covid but just from those underlying deseases i think those nr's are not far apart . Again i am not an anti vaxxer but it would be nice after more then 18 months of this virus going around , to get some realistic nr's and news for a change. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamike Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Along with the listed contributing factors of age, obesity, pre-existing conditions, etc, it would be interesting and perhaps quite useful to know which vaccines had been given to the 8.8% whom were fully vaccinated and still died. Also, how long had it been since their last vaccination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said: 13,637 people died between April 1st and September 9th this year, with 95.82% of them dying in hospital. The eldest was 109 years old and the youngest was just 12 days. The median age is 67 and 12,239 had underlying diseases, with most being diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, kidney disease and obesity. Anti vaxxers are you listening ??? Are you ?? I am not an anti vaxxer just got my second jab yesterday . But out of 13.637 people that died more then 12.000 had underlying diseases and those 13.637 people died in a timespan of 6 months on a population of 68.000.000 you think that's a lot ?? I would like to know how many people with those underlying deseases die in 6 months ,not from or with covid but just from those underlying deseases i think those nr's are not far apart . Again i am not an anti vaxxer but it would be nice after more then 18 months of this virus going around , to get some realistic nr's and news for a change. When people talk dismissively that someone who died from COVID 'had underlying medical conditions', besides being ethically reprehensible, remember this includes about 40% of the population https://twitter.com/stephenjduckett/status/1434616945295327232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwheldale Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Anti vaxxers, are you listening? Why do people write this bilge. This is NOT a vaccine! I have had many vaccines in my life and my kids all had the recommended vaccines when they were scheduled. I wouldn't touch this untested, dangerous, experimental drug with a barge pole. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: When people talk dismissively that someone who died from COVID 'had underlying medical conditions', besides being ethically reprehensible, remember this includes about 40% of the population https://twitter.com/stephenjduckett/status/1434616945295327232 Yeah , and those people would have died if they got a serious flu as well . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 That makes some sense based on the time line? Up to a month or so ago they had very little vaccine what they did have was Sinovac ???? then if you live here and not asleep majority of the time ( not saying that is bad ) you look at the health and eating habits of locals it isn't surprising that so many are dying from the underlying conditions I said it before prior to the start of vaccinations that many locals have no clue to their health since rarely do they get treatment until it is too late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 hours ago, darksidedog said: It can simple be summed up by stating you are less likely to die if you have been vaccinated, but that is hardly great news for the large majority of the country who have still been unable to get even one or praise the Gods, two of the necessary jabs. Behind the headlines is the unspoken admission that the vaccine rollout was very late to start, very slow to roll out and has resulted in many unnecessary deaths. Headline tends to suggest it was their own fault for being too stupid to get a vaccine, when in truth it is the government incompetence to blame. Sorry, I didn't read this in the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyDunky58 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 FIRST APOLOGIES FOR THE ALL CAPS. I AM NOT SHOUTING JUST A MALFUNCTIONING KEYBOARD. ANYWAY, JUST WHAT IS THIS ARTICLE SUPPOSED TO CONVEY? FIRST IT TELLS US THAT 89.7% OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DIED HAD UNDERLYING DISEASES. IS THAT WHY IN THE OFFICIAL REPORTING THEY SAY “WITH COVID” RATHER THAN “OF COVID”? THAT TELLS US THAT NORMAL HEALTHY LOWER AGE PEOPLE HAVE NO NEED TO FEAR. SECOND. AN ABUNDANTLY INCOMPETENT GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BUNGLED THE COVID RESPONSE AND ACHIEVED A PATHETICALLY LOW VACCINATION RATE IS NOW TELLING US THAT THE MAJORITY OF DEATHS ARE UNVACCINATED. TALK ABOUT THE BLEEDING OBVIOUS. IF THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE MAJORITY WERE VACCINATED THAT WOULD BE CAUSE FOR ALARM BUT THIS STAT IS TOTALLY EXPECTED. LAST, TO ALL THE POSTERS DEMONISING THE "ANTI VAXXERS” PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT. PEOPLE THAT CHOSE NOT TO HAVE THE COVID VACCINE ARE NOT NECESSARILY ANTI VAXXERS. ITS A PERSONAL CHOICE THAT THEY MAKE FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS WHICH MAY INCLUDE THEIR OWN UNDERLYING CONDITIONS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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