Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Havent been to BKK for ages, always too nosiy for me , but with the current curfew the place is a joy now, So lovely and queit at night, can actually sleep well without those stupid noisy motorbikes and cars. 3 6 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted September 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 Yes as this 'lovely and quiet Bkk night' are also at the expense of millions miserable poorer people, anymore if this lovely and quiet and we are all doomed... 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted September 13, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ezzra said: Yes as this 'lovely and quiet Bkk night' are also at the expense of millions miserable poorer people, anymore if this lovely and quiet and we are all doomed... Bit over dramatic a 9-4 curfew hardly limits the earning potential of most people. Edited September 13, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit 5 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post internationalism Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 bangkok is 24h city. Some markets operate only night time (as night market name would indicate), that would include flower and vegetable markets, but as well as street food stalls (probably they don't have to pay much to police and to the front shop owners, where they pitch). Also in the suburbs there are factories doing night shifts. With tens of thousands hotels, guesthouses it's should be easy to find one secluded in an alley where there is not any traffic or high floor in an expensive one 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony125 Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Bit over dramatic a 9-4 curfew hardly limits the earning potential of most people. It's not overdramatic. Many food venders used to sell to night shift workers going home, epople leaving clubs,/bars, late night taxi drivers ect. No retaurants open at night, gas stations, movie theaters , malls ect. Just because you might want to turn in early doesn't mean everyone does. 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingstonkid Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Frankly, one of the things I miss the most is the nightlife. I enjoy sitting in a bar or coffee shop watching the people and soaking in that nightlife. I know a lot of people that can not feed their family because their wages were all due to the nightlife. Think about the restaurants, bars, spas. Most of Bangkoks money is made after 4pm and before 3 am. It is not just the sex industry bot a lot of off shoot things come from them. It is surprising to see the number of shops that are closed with ery little reason to open. Enjoy your sleep while you can. Once this city reopens people are going to be blowing the roof off it. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Obviously the curfews have their effects on every part of the economy. It is actually the day times least is being earned as everyone is hiding from the sun and at work. Also the markets used to function 24 hours a day etc. And all that nightlife money also goes into normal economy. Bangkok is bored to death since covid, I can't see it's ability to ever recover too, not at every area. Would at least take 5 years, and with the green activism, flights are gonna be more expensive too. Edited September 14, 2021 by ChaiyaTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Speedhump Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Bit over dramatic a 9-4 curfew hardly limits the earning potential of most people. Not in the least dramatic. Millions of jobs have been lost and suicides are climbing. Huge numbers of people are struggling to pay their rent let alone buy food. This is purely as a result of government policy, as are the quiet roads. Wake up. ???? 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caldera Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Why bother staying in a big and buzzing metropolis, if you like it quiet at night? Aren't there better places for someone so inclined? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Caldera said: Why bother staying in a big and buzzing metropolis, if you like it quiet at night? Aren't there better places for someone so inclined? Huh some funny comments, I dont normally live here I live in a very rural part of Thailand but Wife owns 8 condos she rents out, all full all full despite covid, I occasionaly visit maybe twice a year. I dont see any job losses in rural areas in fact you cant find anyone to help working at the land at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Speedhump said: Huge numbers of people are struggling to pay their rent My Wife owns 8 condos in Bangkok, all have paid their rents none have been late , rooms vary from studios to 1-2 beds maximum her rents however are competitive because she OWNS them, she has not borrowed to finance any of them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Speedhump Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: My Wife owns 8 condos in Bangkok, all have paid their rents none have been late , rooms vary from studios to 1-2 beds maximum her rents however are competitive because she OWNS them, she has not borrowed to finance any of them. I'm talking about people I know. People who don't have 'an apartment in Bsngkok', they rent a single rooms in Hua Hin. I'm not a liar, for god's sake. Hotel jobs disappeared, restaurant jobs cut down from 7 days to weekends only, even 7-11s cutting staff and an 18 year old who worked there I know has zero income and is struggling. Your post is insensitive and off target. You actually believe that suicides are on the increase because people are financially comfortable? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Tony125 said: It's not overdramatic. Many food venders used to sell to night shift workers going home, epople leaving clubs,/bars, late night taxi drivers ect. No retaurants open at night, gas stations, movie theaters , malls ect. Just because you might want to turn in early doesn't mean everyone does. Fair point. The bar we tended to go to (pre-covid) was always quiet .........a late night for us being 10pm. I asked the mamasan how does the place make money? She said they don't get busy till about 2am and make most of their money from then until about 6am. All from the nightclubbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Speedhump said: I'm not a liar, for god's sake. you need to calm down, I didnt call you a liar. My post is discussing Bangkok not Hua hin, I actually live 20km from Hua Hin when not in BKK and if they have NO jobs then why dont they go look for farm work beacsue I cant find anyone willing to do it for 14k a month inc accomodation and electric and Im not alone as many by me are having the same problems with land work, fields once full of fruit now left to go back to jungle unused, what those unemployed mean is they cant find a job doing as little as possible for as much money as they can get when work IS available but they choose not to do it. Edited September 14, 2021 by Rampant Rabbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Speedhump said: Your post is insensitive and off target. You actually believe that suicides are on the increase because people are financially comfortable? Putting words into my mouth I never mentioned suicides you did, I have not commented on suicides in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 A quiet BKK, no loud bikes buzzing from m light to light at 3 am or bar patrons yelling in the streets would be good. The noise and poor sound proofing in many hotels and condos was an issue for me. I don't know how I actually got enough sleep. I guess we adjust. I just hope tourists are appreciated and respected more when and if this covid nightmare ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Elkski said: A quiet BKK, no loud bikes buzzing from m light to light at 3 am or bar patrons yelling in the streets would be good. The noise and poor sound proofing in many hotels and condos was an issue for me. I don't know how I actually got enough sleep. I guess we adjust. I just hope tourists are appreciated and respected more when and if this covid nightmare ends. I would never live at street level, people just don't care how much racket they make. Even on the 14th floor of our condo the noise comes through, although the aircon does mask it on a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonRob2 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Speedhump said: Not in the least dramatic. Millions of jobs have been lost and suicides are climbing. Huge numbers of people are struggling to pay their rent let alone buy food. This is purely as a result of government policy, as are the quiet roads. Wake up. ???? Large numbers of people also have a great deal of money to spend. When Bangkok reopens it will be boomtime. Less drama more analysis needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Elkski said: I just hope tourists are appreciated and respected more when and if this covid nightmare ends. I doubt it many are just too greedy/selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Obviousy the guy that said we are "drama Queens" obviously knows nothing about Thai nigthlife. There would be 3 million earning nothing at present, 2 million struggling, many allied services all not even making ends meet. Then take a look at the hotel industry with another 3 million with no work or in some cases as little as 10% normal salaries & of course no tips which are an integral part of their liviliehood. What makes a country strong is also the constant circulation of monies internally & with little overseas currency also coming in & circulating as well (most foreign exchange kiosks are not even open) earning levels for the man or lady on the street are at critical levels. And do not start me on our business survival along with thousands of businesses who are not only not paying any salaries, but still landlords demanding rent which threatens the possibility that they will ever open again. Edited September 14, 2021 by onthedarkside flame comments removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BostonRob2 said: Large numbers of people also have a great deal of money to spend. When Bangkok reopens it will be boomtime. Less drama more analysis needed. That's pathetic. The fact that some people have money makes everything alright? Yes, it's all drama, isn't it? Suicides on the increase because they have too much money.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Putting words into my mouth I never mentioned suicides you did, I have not commented on suicides in any way. Duh. It was me that mentioned the increasing suicide rate in my very first post and you ignored it. You really believe everything is OK and it's only 'lazy Thais don't want to work'. The usual Thai bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, Speedhump said: Duh. It was me that mentioned the increasing suicide rate in my very first post and you ignored it. You really believe everything is OK and it's only 'lazy Thais don't want to work'. The usual Thai bashing. So I take it you wont be passing on the job offer to your 18yr old boy then, didnt think so. As for your other comments........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 What are you doing in Bangkok? My wife and I are were there 7 months ago. Checked out the new "Icon mall". It was really empty. Interesting time to travel while there's barely any tourists. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, MrJ2U said: What are you doing in Bangkok? My wife and I are were there 7 months ago. Checked out the new "Icon mall". It was really empty. Interesting time to travel while there's barely any tourists. Have fun! Well I guess this is aimed at me, Im here to buy some trees, which I have done which will be planted at the land and I will take back in the morning about 5 am.........along with my bitterness???? asked the tree seller how business was and he said "really good" seems people at home are buying more trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Havent been to BKK for ages, always too nosiy for me , but with the current curfew the place is a joy now, So lovely and queit at night, can actually sleep well without those stupid noisy motorbikes and cars. For all those criticizing the OP, it's worth noting that his OP comment wasn't about closing down or restricting businesses. It was about the absence/reduction in "noisy motorbikes and cars." I've lived in downtown Bangkok for more than a decade now, and it IS much quieter outside at night in recent times, because of the nightly curfew, the shutdown of traffic related to alcohol serving businesses and the general reduction in tourism. Which does make it easier and more pleasant to sleep at night. HOWEVER, you could still have all those night businesses re-open eventually and still have Bangkok be a much quieter place IF the authorities actually enforced some common sense rules like requiring actual working mufflers on motorcycles and stopped tuk tuk drivers from blasting stereos while driving. It constantly makes me shake my head in disgust when I'm walking along Sukhumvit Road for this or that and some puny motorcycle comes tooling down the road that's making almost as much engine noise as an Indianapolis 500 race car. There's simply no reason or justification for allowing that. Bangkok would be a much more pleasant place for everyone if the authorities got serious about reducing needless/blaring noise pollution from vehicles. And they could easily do that without impacting the operation of businesses and night business, and local people's jobs, even the slightest bit. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickG16 Posted September 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2021 Leave this poor guy alone. All he said was he prefers Bangkok when it's quiet at night. Covid isn't his fault. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: For all those criticizing the OP, it's worth noting that his OP comment wasn't about closing down or restricting businesses. It was about the absence/reduction in "noisy motorbikes and cars." Well at least somebody gets it. Instead im now assisisting in suicides, well according to some anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said: Bit over dramatic a 9-4 curfew hardly limits the earning potential of most people. Yes indeed, new businesses are opening on my soi everyday, and all the existing business need to hire trucks to take the money to the bank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: For all those criticizing the OP, it's worth noting that his OP comment wasn't about closing down or restricting businesses. It was about the absence/reduction in "noisy motorbikes and cars." I've lived in downtown Bangkok for more than a decade now, and it IS much quieter outside at night in recent times, because of the nightly curfew, the shutdown of traffic related to alcohol serving businesses and the general reduction in tourism. Which does make it easier and more pleasant to sleep at night. HOWEVER, you could still have all those night businesses re-open eventually and still have Bangkok be a much quieter place IF the authorities actually enforced some common sense rules like requiring actual working mufflers on motorcycles and stopped tuk tuk drivers from blasting stereos while driving. It constantly makes me shake my head in disgust when I'm walking along Sukhumvit Road for this or that and some puny motorcycle comes tooling down the road that's making almost as much engine noise as an Indianapolis 500 race car. There's simply no reason or justification for allowing that. Bangkok would be a much more pleasant place for everyone if the authorities got serious about reducing needless/blaring noise pollution from vehicles. And they could easily do that without impacting the operation of businesses and night business, and local people's jobs, even the slightest bit. My partner and I have a condo on the 37th floor of our building and we still hear the noisy motorcycles--even with the windows closed. The cars and most trucks are no problem--it's always just the horrendously noisy motorcycles you perfectly described. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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