Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kadilo said: “COVID-19: Thailand reports 14,555 new coronavirus cases, 171 deaths” So nothing then. Off topic. No vaccinations are included, the only thing off topic is you "The news comes as Dr. Prasit Watanapa, dean of the Faculty of Medicine Siriraj Hospital of Mahidol University, is suggesting that the government take the “Phuket Sandbox” scheme into account before reopening borders on October 1st, cautioning that the country is not yet ready, due to low rates of vaccination." 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, Sheryl said: "chronic" disease not "congenital" is what they mean The colloquial Thai term for chronic disease gets constantly mistranslated from Thai as "congenital" disease (Google Translate does this). Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 bjckering posts have been removed. As have posted news articles that are off topic and already posted elsewhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mommysboy Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Sure that would be ideal and I don't really disagree however no country has waited for that amount, not even the UK so with using Phuket as an example it should be there and ready to open fully. UK was prepared to accept the risk- I'm not sure it's the same for countries like Thailand. As I recall it was about 65-70% fully vaccinated for phase 1 of reopening, and around 75-80% for full reopening. The thing is UK also had a far higher number of recovered people who thus had gained natural immunity. So the number of people with antibodies was around 80% and is now 90% plus. In my opinion 70% is doable, provided 90% of oldsters are double jabbed. Thailand has generally been incredibly negligent in this regard. Personally, I think if you have the old uns and vulnerable protected you may as well go with full reopening, as you've prevented 90% of avoidable deaths. I guess organizing vaccine roll outs has to be kept as simple as possible, but really in the case of covid 19 selective vaccination would be quicker and better, as a big majority of people don't even need a vaccine and natural acquired immunity is preferable even to the best vaccine. Edit- actually thinking about it, Thailand was quite selective, but in TOTALLY THE WRONG WAY. And it is this more than other factor which hampers reopening, which could be underway today even. Edited September 17, 2021 by mommysboy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: I was quoting our esteemed government. But actually I do agree with the sentiment now that numbers appear to be manageable. Vaccines and sensible protocols are the answer, not further restrictions. Yes but vaccines can only be counted when they are in arms, particularly of those who most need them (vaccines-not arms, lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrohistory Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Kadilo said: Another thread running where the “health vs economy is discussed.” with an article https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thailand-to-reopen-more-regions-to-tourists-by-oct-1-analysts-say-it-is-risky-but "We believe there could be some risk of higher infections once the country reopens, but it is worthwhile to risk that, given that many livelihoods depend on it," said Ms Yuwanee. Now the numbers are manageable the balance is now on the side of the economy and hence the peak season opening in line with the vaccination rollout. The decision has been made to “learn to live with it” and the forward strategy is based on that, not delay or going back imo. Looks like you're just going to have to "learn to live with" a delay or a going back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Macrohistory said: Looks like you're just going to have to "learn to live with" a delay or a going back. “Learn to live with it” is alive and well and coming a lot sooner than most predicted. Considering the vast majority of pessimistic posters were predicting opening at the end 2022, 2023 etc at the earliest, a few months back when I suggested the country would be open for Xmas, it’s a delay that I am sure will be worth it and one some of us are looking forward to. Edited September 17, 2021 by Kadilo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Out of 13,756 local cases (not in prisons) Bangkok 2,911 Samut Prakan 1,110 Chonburi 935 Rayong 636 Ratchaburi 501 Yala 444 Samut Sakhon 387 Prachinburi 367 Nakhon Si Thammarat 354 Saraburi 329 #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1438750218585919489 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Vaccines administered yesterday: https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1438753367333883904/photo/1 Edited September 17, 2021 by anchadian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Kadilo said: “Learn to live with it” is alive and well and coming a lot sooner than most predicted. Considering the vast majority of pessimistic posters were predicting opening at the end 2022, 2023 etc at the earliest, a few months back when I suggested the country would be open for Xmas, it’s a delay that I am sure will be worth it and one some of us are looking forward to. Gotta say I’ve yet to see anyone suggesting it would be the end of 2022 or 2023, I have seen them say when the vaccination levels are high enough. I’ve got a few friends waiting to come over from the UK but they are firstly waiting for Thailand to be taken off the red list and further waiting for the rule changes that occur when Thailand does reach required targets to be in place to see what they are, until then they are staying firmly put or looking at other options. How about you, will you wait for a bit yet to get to Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: "chronic" disease not "congenital" is what they mean The colloquial Thai term for chronic disease gets constantly mistranslated from Thai as "congenital" disease (Google Translate does this). Your mention of mixed medical terms from Phuket reminds me the terms subdermal, subcutaneous and intradermal in reference to injections lately. Are they technically interchangeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygooner Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, sapson said: Why are the antigen 1630 positive tests not included in the daily reported figures in this headline by webfact, are they not considered relevant by asean now reporting standards.? The actual figures released total is 16,185. Maybe because they will be added to the PCR total in a few days after a positive PCR test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 An off topic post has been removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Positivity rates in Thailand still extremely high, this is the mean average between all methods: 19.65% as released today by CCSA https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/170964.pdf 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, keith101 said: So the numbers are starting to increase again every day albeit slightly but the signs are there . These numbers are a drop in the ocean and I regard them as a measure of the number of tests done. It could sustain 100k new cases per day for 6 months and still only be a small proportion of the population at the end of that 6 months. Nobody has any clue as to how many people are infected at any one time or who have been previously infected, except for perhaps that one guy who came out and mentioned the 7 million figure. I haven't heard anything from him lately though so he's probably been silenced. I know of an old man who's hiding away at home with a fever and illness right now, they're not submitting themselves for 'isolation' - these people own houses, buildings and hotels all over the country - they do what they want and will never go to 'tent city'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Today there were 171 deaths in #Thailand 82 males & 89 females Chinese (1), Cambodian (1) Age range is 24-95 years 73% of deaths aged 60+ Most deaths in Bangkok (41) 1 person died at home https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1438758921431183365 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Further news on the OP's report re opening up the country: Opinion: Is Bangkok opening to visitors or not? CNN Travel raised a question mark over the Thai government’s plans to reopen Bangkok for vaccinated tourists next month, and it’s hard to blame them. https://www.thaienquirer.com/32803/is-bangkok-opening-to-visitors-or-not/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, webfact said: His remark on Thursday comes as four more provinces – Chiang Mai, Chon Buri, Prachuap Khriri Khan, and Phetchaburi are set to welcome fully vaccinated COVID-negative international arrivals from Oct 1st and Bangkok to follow from October 15th. No no no, that was this mornings news, this is Thailand and you have to keep up with the flips: Bangkok governor rejects tourism minister’s plan to reopen capital on Oct 15 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: No no no, that was this mornings news, this is Thailand and you have to keep up with the flips: Bangkok governor rejects tourism minister’s plan to reopen capital on Oct 15 “The governor expects the 70% full vaccination target to be hit by October 22nd, but the campaign may be sped up if more doses of vaccines are allocated to the city.” Wow a whole week later. How to make a headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 The Forgotten Vaccine: Russia’s Sputnik V in Thailand and Southeast Asia Despite all the hype and promises, Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine has made few inroads in Southeast Asia. https://thediplomat.com/2021/09/the-forgotten-vaccine-russias-sputnik-v-in-thailand-and-southeast-asia/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kadilo said: “The governor expects the 70% full vaccination target to be hit by October 22nd, but the campaign may be sped up if more doses of vaccines are allocated to the city.” Wow a whole week later. How to make a headline. If I were you I would wait for another headline then that says "Bangkok is opening up on the 22nd of Oct" presuming they've got the extra vaccines needed and are able to administer them all in time, oh and as long as they have approval from CCSA meeting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, garygooner said: Maybe because they will be added to the PCR total in a few days after a positive PCR test. There have now been 10's of thousands. they do not get included. To include them would obviously make the numbers higher and again obviously the "govt." does not want this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Kadilo said: Yeah massive failure. Since July, 28,000 visitors, 1.6 billion baht raised and only 88 covid cases as of Sept 5th. Compared to the predicted figure of 129,000 by the end of September it's a massive failure but personally I'm surprised they attracted as many as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kadilo said: “Learn to live with it” is alive and well and coming a lot sooner than most predicted. Considering the vast majority of pessimistic posters were predicting opening at the end 2022, 2023 etc at the earliest, a few months back when I suggested the country would be open for Xmas, it’s a delay that I am sure will be worth it and one some of us are looking forward to. Well I guess we were thinking that infections wouldn't be hidden by ATK tests which are not included (and how many thousands are not reported) and that Thailand should wait until 70-80% of the population were fully vaccinated. Edited September 17, 2021 by dinsdale 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Well I guess we were thinking that infections wouldn't be hidden by ATK tests which are not included and that Thailand should wait until 70-80% of the population were fully vaccinated. Yes course you were. Either way you were wrong. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Kadilo said: Yes course you were. Either way you were wrong. ???? We'll see. Maybe open October and closed for Xmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dinsdale said: We'll see. Maybe open October and closed for Xmas. That could catch on as the Doomsayers next slogan! They could get some stickers and stuff printed up. Edited September 17, 2021 by Kadilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Well I guess we were thinking that infections wouldn't be hidden by ATK tests which are not included (and how many thousands are not reported) and that Thailand should wait until 70-80% of the population were fully vaccinated. We were discussing this in school today for our science session, 70% is the minimum required as you are aware, any less is a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, coolcarer said: We were discussing this in school today for our science session, 70% is the minimum required as you are aware, any less is a recipe for disaster. I'm aware that 80% + is what is now being said. Things move quickly with the delta variant. This is like a totally different pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 There are no fixed plans to lift the 14-day quarantine for Bangkok, the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration said on Friday. (1/2) The programme may be amended to allow arriving visitors to leave their assigned hotel during the day, similar to the Phuket Sandbox. But any decision would have to be agreed with the Health Ministry. (2/2) https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1438775367158808584 Daily briefing of Covid-19 in English: 17th September 2021 by CCSA Thailand 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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