A Picture Paints a Thousand Words

[KhaoYai]

This is not news and I think we all know what/who was responsible for the huge increase/spread of Covid 19 that began this April.  I just thought this graphic says everything - I'd love to shove it across Prayuth's desk for comment.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/thailand/

 

Edited October 9, 2021 by KhaoYai

[internationalism]

thonglor cluster<deleted> and the second government house - 2 new meanings in thailand political vocabulary.

So far nobody took any responsibility.

Prayuth's apology doesn't mean much - he did not resign. He did not change his policies dictated by his sponsors.

Contracts for pfizer and moderna were only signed at the end of July, well into 4th wave.

J&J is still remote, despite being approved already in March.

Anutin claimed today victory over covid - the UK removed thailand from the red list, as if he had anything to do with it.

Reality is much different, not many people can move to UK, or to Germany, got free vaxed and lived safely.

Now, let's see when and what the 5th wave will bring.

It's no over by any means 

 

[i84teen]

Seems like Singapore has almost flattened the covid case curve, but just on the wrong axis, despite almost 80% fully vaccinated....wow!

https://tinyurl.com/SIN-covid-curve

Edited October 10, 2021 by i84teen

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, i84teen said:

Seems like Singapore has almost flattened the covid case curve, but just on the wrong axis, despite almost 80% fully vaccinated....wow!

https://tinyurl.com/SIN-covid-curve

The problem with graphs is two fold understanding the underlying data and not being tempted to misrepresent what they tell us.

 

We already know vaccination reduces serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths.

 

High case counts in a population that is 80%+ vaccinated does not produce the same outcomes as in populations with lower vaccination rates.

 

Singapore, like the rest of the world is dealing with the very much more virulent Delta Strain, the high vaccines uptake is without doubt reducing the consequences.

 

 

[i84teen]

Delta variant accounts for 100% of all cases in Indonesia and SIN now but with only 21% fully vaccinated in Indonesia (vs. Singapore’s 78% fully vaccination rate), the rate of 7 day covid infection is 117 times higher in Singapore despite a vaccination rate almost 4 times higher than Indonesia. These charts can promote deeper research, testing, modeling, and historical data analysis to derive better understanding.

If you are having problems reading simple graphs, have a look here.

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/dolciani/pdf_files/brushup-materials/understanding-how-to-read-graphs.pdf

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by i84teen

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Delta variant accounts for 100% of all cases in Indonesia and SIN now but with only 21% fully vaccinated in Indonesia (vs. Singapore’s 78% fully vaccination rate), the rate of 7 day covid infection is 117 times higher in Singapore despite a vaccination rate almost 4 times higher than Indonesia. These charts can promote deeper research, testing, modeling, and historical data analysis to derive better understanding.

If you are having problems reading simple graphs, have a look here.

http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/dolciani/pdf_files/brushup-materials/understanding-how-to-read-graphs.pdf

 

What’s the population density in Indonesia v that of Singapore?

 

How many people live in apartment blocks in Indonesia v Singapore?

 

How many people use mass transit systems in Indonesia v Singapore?

 

Are the methods of data collection and reported in Indonesia compatible with those in Singapore?

 

Did you discover and interpret these shocking graphs yourself or were the graphs and interpretations fed to you?

[i84teen]

SIN: *density: ~8,000/ km²

HK: density: ~7,126/km²

 HK Vax rate: 57%

SIN vax rate: 78%

However, SIN's 7 day covid rate is >700 times that of HK and 8 times that of Monaco. Further, did you know the pop den. of Monaco is 19,700/km² and it's vaccination rate is 59% (less than SIN vax rate & MUCH lower covid infection).

https://tinyurl.com/hk-sin-mon

https://tinyurl.com/vax-3-country

*https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density

I use the data available online as do most and in this case the source is Oxford World of Data. I study the graphs, the data, ID trends, anomalies, etc. for interests sake and  feeding them to you now. Look em up yourself, check the graph reading instructions I sent earlier if you need assistance.

Edited October 10, 2021 by i84teen

[KhaoYai]

Guys, what have the above graphs go to do with the virus going into overdrive as a result of the great leader's failure to lockdown and prevent the masses travelling home last Songkran?  You might note, that was the point of my post.

[ExpatOilWorker]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The problem with graphs is two fold understanding the underlying data and not being tempted to misrepresent what they tell us.

 

We already know vaccination reduces serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths.

 

High case counts in a population that is 80%+ vaccinated does not produce the same outcomes as in populations with lower vaccination rates.

 

Singapore, like the rest of the world is dealing with the very much more virulent Delta Strain, the high vaccines uptake is without doubt reducing the consequences.

 

 

That is all good and true, but Covid-19 death is also on the uptick in Singapore. 

Not looking to good at all.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

That is all good and true, but Covid-19 death is also on the uptick in Singapore. 

Not looking to good at all.

Yes, that’s clearly what the graph shows.

 

What it doesn’t show is any increase in infection resulting from vaccination as implied by the poster I was responding to.