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Getting to 70% by the end of the year seems unlikely, but more importantly, many of the tourist arrival schemes had words spoken by many Thai officials saying that things were conditional upon 70%.  So will wait and see what really happens right after November 1

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6 minutes ago, TooMuchTime said:

Don't worry, they'll change the definition to 90% once you get close enough.  Don't forget the boosters every 6 months either.

Yeah, time will tell what they do about boosters, if anything at all. 

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16 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

So Thailand is at 35% 'fully vaxed' (of which a large proportion with Sinovac).

 

Oz is just opening up for the second time (post-Delta) with 70% double-vaxed (age 16 up). Won't open completely till 80% is reached.

 

Go figure.

yeah, there is an old saying  "Figures don't lie, but liars figure".  The status of Thailand and the effectiveness of their vaccinations is very questionable

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31 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Did he clarify if "no quarantine" for vaccinated visitors actually means no quarantine?

"Same same,  but different".  I bought some of those T shirts on my first trip to Thailand and they are so true, it is scary

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39 minutes ago, webfact said:

He expressed his belief that Thailand would be able to open safely, just like he said before. 

Just how do they or he define safely?  Just by some percentage of vaccinations?  Do they have some Risk calculation?  Who decides?

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except Moderna who would deliver 5 million doses this year and now reduced to 1,9 and still unknown when or if that vaccine is coming. On the other hand there was also a possibility for J&J for 1 jab, but they never ordered. NOw they are begging for other countries like Spain and Hungary and Japan.....but yes with 1/3 of the country doubled jab is far from the 70% that he always told at 31st December.....

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2 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

except Moderna who would deliver 5 million doses this year and now reduced to 1,9 and still unknown when or if that vaccine is coming. On the other hand there was also a possibility for J&J for 1 jab, but they never ordered. NOw they are begging for other countries like Spain and Hungary and Japan.....but yes with 1/3 of the country doubled jab is far from the 70% that he always told at 31st December.....

I may have a MS in Math but I don't think one needs advanced math to take a look at things and not see any reasonable projection to get them to some stated goals. But plans can change

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49 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Except herd immunity is most likely 85% plus not 70%.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covid-coronavirus.html

And in Blighty (UK) it's touch and go at 80%, with 95% of old uns double jabbed and a considerable proportion of the unvaccinated with natural immunity.  Over 90% are estimated to have antibodies.

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1 hour ago, mfd101 said:

So Thailand is at 35% 'fully vaxed' (of which a large proportion with Sinovac).

 

Oz is just opening up for the second time (post-Delta) with 70% double-vaxed (age 16 up). Won't open completely till 80% is reached.

 

Go figure.

Australia is it's own seperate basket case with different varieties of basket weaving depending on each state.

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26 minutes ago, DLock said:

That's terrific...but where are those Moderna I ordered and paid for months ago.

Yeah, and my second jab that was due 7 days ago.  

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5 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

- 6 to 12 months behind rest of world on vaccination

- didn't join covax when asked

- closed for over 6 months with no clear plan to reopen

- another high season lost

- dependant on a tourism sector that accounts for 20% of GDP that may never return

 

Hate to see what your definition of failure is.

 

 

 

 

 

6 months behind but ahead of most ASEAN nations. It didn’t help that the West exhausted the early supply of vaccines.

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What is herd immunity?  Can it be achieved with COVID?   What about re-infections and break-through infections?  Immune people can't be reinfected.

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If the half yearly or yearly booster rule will be effective you can forget about mass tourism. For what ive heard, more and more people will refuse to take these boosters. That means that this will be a group that wont (or can't) go for long distance holidays. 

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