Must Read Thailand to allow quarantine-free travel from 46 countries, PM says

[Cherrytreeview]

24 minutes ago, JayBird said:

Did they say what happens if you test positive on arrival?  (Might be a false positive, or caught it on plane )

No they didn't.

Just like they didn't explain the logistics of how thousands of people get to thousands of destinations in Thailand before their test results come back .

The usual suspects on this forum can't ask or think for themselves but trot out the usual "it's better than nothing" replies.

Guess what?

It's not. No one's coming.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Cherrytreeview
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[edwinchester]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But if you caught it on the plane would it show up as POSITIVE immediately after arrival?

 

Or does it need several days to develop in the human body to test POSITIVE? 

You won't test positive for at least 2-5 days on arrival in BKK if you catch it on the plane which makes the test virtually pointless if you do a test just before you fly and test negative.

[Cherrytreeview]

4 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I have a house in Chonburi and it was 15 days when I applied to return on 21st Sept, significant improvement in a short time.

What you want and what you get are never the same but feel free to keep on whinging.

No one's whingeing.

You have a house in Thailand, go back to your house.

99.9% of "tourists", understand "tourists"?

aren't going to come.

What does 20% of Thailand's GDP depend on?

Yes, you guessed it "tourism".

That means slowly but surely the tourist areas of Thailand are going to fail big time.

 

[WEBBYB808]

Will alcohol  be sold in bars and restaurants?

[Stargeezr]

Get rid of the special COVID insurance, and many people may suddenly be a bit more interested.

I am glad that I can go to my destination, and pay 500 baht for a negative test result. 555

  After all this is Thailand, right?

Geezer

[Wullie Mercer]

Did China nt ntnce they were banning travel due to a surge in cases there???

[Wullie Mercer]

Just now, Wullie Mercer said:

Did China nt ntnce they were banning travel due to a surge in cases there???

Should read "not announce" 

[StayinThailand2much]

5 hours ago, candide said:

That should be the list

China, Hong Kong... Psst...

Don't tell them, but they forgot to add Macau and Taiwan to the list.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Will alcohol  be sold in bars and restaurants?

The curfew will be cancelled in the 17 opening Provinces but alcohol still cannot be served, although 17 provinces in the pilot tourism area can apply to ease some restrictions. For example, authorities on Koh Tao are creating their own Covid-19 Free Zone where restaurants can apply for permission to serve alcohol. Expect other areas to do the same. Via tweets R.B.

[raccos21]

 

 

The “Thailand Pass” requirements said need to stay 1 night in an AQS or SHA+ Hotel while wait for test result upon arrival.

So it is not really a quarantine free travel.

https://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/thailand-pass

Edited October 22, 2021 by raccos21

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not quite, it needs to be in an SHA+ or AQ hotel.

Sure some of the hotels are quite cheap.

 

But to me there's another issue. I need to fly into swampy then do a domestic flight to my family/family home in Chiang Mai.

 

Whilst there's all this backwards and forwards about the 1 night hotel stay / can't move until receive NEGATIVE report, I'm not game to make a domestic flight booking.

 

For tourists it's the same plus many will probably have a confirmed hotel booking in Pattaya, Khon Kaen, Sth. of Thailand etc. But, because of the 1 night in Bkk mess they are unsure when they will arrive at their final hotel. And many maybe already have a confirmed domestic flight booking but there's the possibility they will be delayed a further 24 hrs in Bkk but can't change their domestic flight date. A mess. 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, 10baht said:

I read this: According to the foreign ministry, travellers must have resided in the eligible countries and territories for at least 21 consecutive days--- So if you are living in Thailand and travel to one of these countries and stay less than 21 consecutive days, then WHAT?

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thailand-pm-announces-quarantine-free-travel-visitors-45-countries-2259711

A very good question. I need to travel to the UAE for 15 days. Why is it that whenever declarations are made by the Thai government there are still questions that need to be asked. Another example of Thais being totally unable to think something through.

[Paradise Pete]

4 hours ago, kevin612 said:

So basically everything is the same except 1 day quarantine. Insurance, Thailand pass, PCR test will prevent people from entering.

It won't prevent me. And some consider me to be people.

[Cherrytreeview]

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Sure some of the hotels are quite cheap.

 

But to me there's another issue. I need to fly into swampy then do a domestic flight to my family/family home in Chiang Mai.

 

Whilst there's all this backwards and forwards about the 1 night hotel stay / can't move until receive NEGATIVE report, I'm not game to make a domestic flight booking.

 

For tourists it's the same plus many will probably have a confirmed hotel booking in Pattaya, Khon Kaen, Sth. of Thailand etc. But, because of the 1 night in Bkk mess they are unsure when they will arrive at their final hotel. And many maybe already have a confirmed domestic flight booking but there's the possibility they will be delayed a further 24 hrs in Bkk but can't change their domestic flight date. A mess. 

 

 

Whereas some other posters can think for themselves and eloquently explain the logistical nightmare of this regime.

It is anything but quarantine free travel.

[crazykopite]

I see another u turn coming from the PM countries such as the U.K. are seeing a purge in a new wave Russia has gone into complete lockdown for 11 days due to over a 1,000 deaths a day 

[Kadilo]

38 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

It's a big deal for my daughter's family of five who usually have an annual holiday in Thailand.

PCR checks in both UK and Thailand followed by an expensive Govt Quarantine Hotel, albeit only for one night, will add hundreds of pounds to the cost.

Factor in the risk should one of their kids test positive in Thailand it just isn't worth it right now.

 

Yes sadly it’s the cost of travelling safely in the future and everyone can make a judgement if it’s right for them or not. 

[johnarth]

well if it happens we are not seen anything yet

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, Paul Henry said:

Desperate actions in desperate times. Great Britain on the list with 100,000 cases a day and going back into lockdown. Thailand badly needs  a government that knows how to govern rather than one that flops around  trying to be popular. What happened to the great wine announcement about CHEAPER WINE? Oh maybe I dreamt that it really wasn't announced. 

There are not currently 100,000 cases a day or are they going into lockdown. 

[big dendrobenaes]

what about the SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT HAD TO BE MET???

 

[raccos21]

I think the ATK test upon arrival is will be good for those has been fully vaccinated and negative RT-PCR test before departure.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by raccos21

[JCP108]

2 hours ago, yogi yogi said:

ive seen rooms for 15 bucks u can handle it.  they just opened the flood gates and u want more?

I want more. Doubt it will be a flood.

[BobinBKK]

Perhaps they upped it to 46 because no-one (very few) from the original 10 was coming? The rest of the world has become tired of Thailand's ???????? and discovered much more friendlier and nicer places to go ????

[James105]

42 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The curfew will be cancelled in the 17 opening Provinces but alcohol still cannot be served, although 17 provinces in the pilot tourism area can apply to ease some restrictions. For example, authorities on Koh Tao are creating their own Covid-19 Free Zone where restaurants can apply for permission to serve alcohol. Expect other areas to do the same. Via tweets R.B.

What's a covid free zone and how does someone create one?  Is this even scientifically possible or does this mean the same as "quarantine-free" arrival for tourists where there is still quarantine but just not as much as before.  

 

 

Obviously this suggests vaccinations are required which I am sure restaurants will happily implement if they can be allowed to sell alcohol again, but what does the other text say - anyone know?  

 

[Jeffr2]

This is very misleading. It should be:

 

Thailand to allow one night quarantine travel from 46 countries, PM says

[wombat]

7 hours ago, alyx said:

if confirmed  and recorded in the Royal Gazette)

If not then not.

[John Drake]

6 hours ago, candide said:

That should be the list

No India, Indonesia, or Taiwan? And Cambodia, yes, but Laos and Vietnam, no? And Czech Republic, yes, but not Slovakia? Very odd.

[brooksie61]

2 hours ago, 10baht said:

I read this: According to the foreign ministry, travellers must have resided in the eligible countries and territories for at least 21 consecutive days--- So if you are living in Thailand and travel to one of these countries and stay less than 21 consecutive days, then WHAT?

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thailand-pm-announces-quarantine-free-travel-visitors-45-countries-2259711

Very good question. I am planning a trip to a country not listed. I hope that it is either added in the next 3 months or there will be consideration for returning travellers who reside here.

 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

4 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Struth, It’s a night in a hotel. A lot of people (not all) when they arrive after travelling for many hours just want to doss for a night to recharge the battery. 
 

It’s hardly a big deal but I guess if it’s not this it will be something else to have a moan about. 

The "big deal" as you put it is, a PCR test and at least one night in a hotel, not of your choice, so for a family of 4, that's quite a lot?

4 PCR tests at 3,800 baht and one night in a hotel, that will way over 20,000 before they even start their vacation.

If one of the family tests positive, then its not going to be much fun, is it??

[kennw]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Then don't bother.... I expect you have to either accept their requirements or not travel. 

I really don't see it as so bad considering what was previously required. 

So it's not as bad as before so thats good? Wake up, analyze the intent, if its so that you can be "contacted", then straight to your own apartment should be allowed. If it is to keep you in a secure hotel to keep you away from others until the test result is positive, then this is quarantine. Say it like it is. "One day quarantine if test is positive".

[Kadilo]

2 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

The "big deal" as you put it is, a PCR test and at least one night in a hotel, not of your choice, so for a family of 4, that's quite a lot?

4 PCR tests at 3,800 baht and one night in a hotel, that will way over 20,000 before they even start their vacation.

If one of the family tests positive, then its not going to be much fun, is it??

I’m sure you will be able to go to the hotel of your choice under the scheme.
 

I would guess it wouldn’t be much fun for many people if a family member tests positive and was out and about spreading the virus undetected so for that reason it’s probably a good thing. 
 

It’s the new way of travelling. Those are the suggested rules. You can either accept them and the increased inconvenience/cost or stay at home, but either way it’s a massive step in the right direction.