Mask Exemption.

[Wanderwoman]

3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I think you might want to seek a second opinion on the necessity of your being exempt from wearing a mask.

 

As explained in the video below by a respiratory medicine specialist, people with respiratory problems are actually more in need of wearing a mask than the general population, because they're at greater risk from Covid if they become infected.

 

He also demonstrates (and provides evidence) that breathing and O2 levels are not adversely affected by wearing a normal surgical mask, and the only valid medical reasons not to wear a mask are a serious skin condition or an inability to wear a mask due to physical or mental disabilities.

 

https://youtu.be/HaL7gIMemrU

 

Wonderful advise, Im actually seeing my Dr today for my flu vaccine, great time consult. ????????

 

I appriciate the link also, I will read ????

[Wanderwoman]

2 hours ago, Catoni said:

Why are you questioning the person with the medical mask exemption? Question the hospital and doctors who gave her the exemption. Maybe they know something about her condition that you don’t know. 
As she stated…”…medically exempt, as instructed by my local hospital and respitory nurse/ASD specialist.”

  So perhaps you should not be trying to “outdoctor” her medical care specialists and doctors. 
    Who are you to suggest to her that maybe she should not travel to Thailand? She’s coming to Thailand for study. 
    How is she risking anyone’s life?  If she already had Covid and recovered, then she has immunity even much better than being vaccinated. If she’s vaccinated, then great.  If others are vaccinated and/or wearing masks, then she is no threat to them.  And if she is not elderly with co-morbidities than the odds of her dying crossing a Thailand street are probably higher than of dying of Covid. 
I know a number of people who had Covid and recovered. Most of them said it was a like a mild flu, and then they recovered with no problem. 

Please stay a beautiful human. Its hard to be authentic when your attacked for it, I've been surprised how many people are happy to verbally put down a disabled person, however, at least I've learned something ????

[Wanderwoman]

1 minute ago, Wanderwoman said:

Please stay a beautiful human. Its hard to be authentic when your attacked for it, I've been surprised how many people are happy to verbally put down a disabled person, however, at least I've learned something ????

I am also vaccinated, I'm unsure why people are assuming I am not lol. 

[TheFishman1]

I would definitely postpone your trip here there’s a large or shall I say many ties that are on educated when they see you walking without a mask probably all hell will break out and I don’t think your letter is going to help much TIT

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2 hours ago, Catoni said:

Why are you questioning the person with the medical mask exemption? Question the hospital and doctors who gave her the exemption. Maybe they know something about her condition that you don’t know. 
As she stated…”…medically exempt, as instructed by my local hospital and respitory nurse/ASD specialist.”

  So perhaps you should not be trying to “outdoctor” her medical care specialists and doctors. 
    Who are you to suggest to her that maybe she should not travel to Thailand? She’s coming to Thailand for study. 
    How is she risking anyone’s life?  If she already had Covid and recovered, then she has immunity even much better than being vaccinated. If she’s vaccinated, then great.  If others are vaccinated and/or wearing masks, then she is no threat to them.  And if she is not elderly with co-morbidities than the odds of her dying crossing a Thailand street are probably higher than of dying of Covid. 
I know a number of people who had Covid and recovered. Most of them said it was a like a mild flu, and then they recovered with no problem. 

Why do you believe this person actually has a medical mask exemption? Seems unlikely.

[Wanderwoman]

1 hour ago, charmonman said:

It is unfortunate that people who have legitimate medical exemptions from mask wearing like yourself have to bear the stigma created by people who do NOT have legitimate reasons but don't wear them because they are just stubborn, stupid, or irresponsible. If I were in your position, I'd try the face shield, with a loose fitting mask. That should eliminate most people misjudging you.

Thank you! So so much. Stay beautiful in this ugly world. 

[Why Me]

What is the condition, OP, that prevents you from masking up? We are all anonymous here so no one will be compromised in giving "personal" info.

[wwest5829]

18 hours ago, Wanderwoman said:

Hi Richard, 

 

Thank you for this informative reply. My post isn't meant to be confusing, unfortunately people attack other with hidden disabilities so I'm quick to the point. 

 

That all makes complete sense. I had not considered a more breathable covering alternative (slit or shield) this would at least help some of the journey, if they do not change the rules as you just said, my husbands also happy to go into places for me, but the point is to be as independent as possible, while being safe. 

 

Thank you again. 

I second Richard’s suggestion of the use of a face shield. They are readily available here and we do see them being utilized, at least in Chiang Mai.

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16 hours ago, Wanderwoman said:

Did your mum not love you enough?

That mask of yours seems to be slipping.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

I second Richard’s suggestion of the use of a face shield. They are readily available here and we do see them being utilized, at least in Chiang Mai.

faces hield or not, you will to have a mask handy to enter some places, as I stated earlier, facial monitors that work gates.  Just once in, uncover nose and or face as you see fit.

[Wanderwoman]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

That mask of yours seems to be slipping.

No, no mask here, being autistic I have trouble controlling my emotions at times, and I was "triggered" by someone who shouldn't matter. This is my bad. 

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Just now, Wanderwoman said:

No, no mask here, being autistic I have trouble controlling my emotions at times, and I was "triggered" by someone who shouldn't matter. This is my bad. 

Actually, thanks for more evidence of your fraudulence. Insults and such aren't what triggers the autistic. In fact, what marks them is their cluelessness to expressions of emotion in others. And they certainly wouldn't even now how to pitch a verbal comeback. What's more, given how much you've dwelt on feelings and sensitivity in your comments, it's clear that the last thing you are is autistic. 

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Alternatively wear a ‘face shield’ - the whole purpose of masks is to act a barrier preventing the ‘expulsion of water vapour from your respiratory system’....   face shields do this.

Unfortunately, face shields are not classed as face masks so to comply with Thailand's current regulations I believe a mask would still have to be worn also.

[Liverpool Lou]

19 hours ago, Wanderwoman said:

Long story short. I'm medically exempt, as instructed by my local hospital and respitory nurse/ASD specialist. 

 

I'll be living in thailand for a year for study. 

 

How can I be conscious of the kingdoms rules without compromising my health? 

The rules regarding mask-wearing here have been widely publicised in the press and the media, i.e. masks are compulsory for everyone in public.  Offenders face a first time fine of B1000.   Google will provide all the information that you require.   I don't believe that medical exemptions have been catered for in Thailand's mask requirements.

Edited November 4, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Wanderwoman]

41 minutes ago, Why Me said:

What is the condition, OP, that prevents you from masking up? We are all anonymous here so no one will be compromised in giving "personal" info.

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Edited November 4, 2021 by Wanderwoman

[wwest5829]

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

faces hield or not, you will to have a mask handy to enter some places, as I stated earlier, facial monitors that work gates.  Just once in, uncover nose and or face as you see fit.

That may be. My second of the face shield suggestion was for her saying she could not wear a mask. I agree that, at least currently, I would not advise travel if a person can not wear a face mask in Thailand. Actually, perhaps all of Asia as utilizing a face mask has been used (thinking here of Japan and China) even before Covid. One of the considerations as to why I am a long way from flying anywhere … sorry if a person cannot wear a mask but  …

[Wanderwoman]

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, thanks for more evidence of your fraudulence. Insults and such aren't what triggers the autistic. In fact, what marks them is their cluelessness to expressions of emotion in others. And they certainly wouldn't even now how to pitch a verbal comeback. What's more, given how much you've dwelt on feelings and sensitivity in your comments, it's clear that the last thing you are is autistic. 

Sure thing, you absolutely no more about me than me  and my social worker. 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Wanderwoman

[Bigz]

Oh boy. You are going to make your life hard. If your health is really in danger by wearing a mask I suggest you stay put until the pandemic is over. You as a farang will always raise eyebrows for not wearing a mask regardless having a piece of paper or not. You won't be able to shop, eat out, go to school or anywhere really. Even with an exemption letter will be almost impossible to enter any public venues without a mask at the moment.

[Liverpool Lou]

16 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What about consulting BEFORE you arrive in Thailand?

That's what the OP is doing, I think.   If she was here she'd be aware of the Covid regulations already, surely?

Edited November 4, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's what the OP is doing, I think.   If she was here she'd be aware of the Covid regulations, surely?

I was replying to somebody else who said check while in Thailand.

[EvetsKram]

I am similar to you, I have a disease that makes mask wearing all the time a problem for me. I do like others have suggested, carry drink or finger food around as an excuse, it works. As for seeking exemption i think it creates hassles I can do without

[marin]

1 hour ago, Wanderwoman said:

Judging by your attitude, sounds like Karma. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Wanderwoman

Wow, you will never make it here. I give you 3 months here max. What a horrible thing to say. Karma, you are the one who should be thinking about it.

[Wanderwoman]

2 minutes ago, EvetsKram said:

I am similar to you, I have a disease that makes mask wearing all the time a problem for me. I do like others have suggested, carry drink or finger food around as an excuse, it works. As for seeking exemption i think it creates hassles I can do without

Hello, 

 

I am sorry to hear that, these past couple of years must have been a great impact to you, they have for me. 

 

The new world is an uncertain and ugly place, but there is still good and beauty. I hope your journey to find that, isn't too hard. 

[Wanderwoman]

2 minutes ago, marin said:

Wow, you will never make it here. I give you 3 months here max. What a horrible thing to say. Karma, you are the one who should be thinking about it.

3 months sounds like a beautiful experience, I'd be grateful for it. Thank you ????????

[Liverpool Lou]

16 hours ago, pomchop said:

you want to share your "observable data" with us as that is contradictory to every bit of valid data I have seen...do you really think that no mask is same as masked?  Delusional or know more than scientists who study disease transmissions for decades.  How about be part of the solution and not part of the problem?

You're assuming that everyone, including medical professionals, agree with the idea that masks really work.   That 'consensus' is definitely not the case.  To agree with many scientists is not being "delusional" or "knowing more than scientists", many of whom do not accept the effectiveness of masks as far as the transmission of Covid is concerned.

Edited November 4, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

11 hours ago, scorecard said:

You might get more support here and in the public if you have a letter from a highly respected Thai institution

Such as?  You can't be suggesting the most highly revered institution in Thailand, surely?

[1FinickyOne]

19 hours ago, HeijoshinCool said:

so mouth breathing is also possible.

well, ok then... 

[Liverpool Lou]

10 hours ago, jackdd said:

If you can't wear a mask due to respiratory problems, wouldn't there be a high chance that you die if you catch Covid? So you shouldn't go outside anyway because you might catch Covid and die

Geez.  You could have phrased that a bit more tactfully and sensitively.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

"How can I be conscious of the kingdoms rules without compromising my health? "

You can't, best to stay home. 

She can, Google, or just by reading the English-language Thai papers.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Catoni said:

I know a number of people who had Covid and recovered. Most of them said it was a like a mild flu, and then they recovered with no problem. 

We all probably do, 99% of everyone recovers!