Side effects.

[overherebc]

Looking for somewhere to post ref' anyone having side effects after being vaccinated.

[Moonlover]

Try this one.

 

[overherebc]

Mine is not that serious.

I have quite a flare up of my psoriasis since my second AZ and doing some googling it appears a few have experienced the same.

Interested to find out if any tv members have had similar.

[Sheryl]

Any vaccination, not just AZ and not just COVID, may cause a temporary flare up of psoriasis and other autoimmune conditions. This is because they stimulate the immune system.

 

Natural infections (COVID or any other) will do the same.

 

If the flare up is severe and does not subside  consult your doctor for possible  med dosage adjustment.

[scorecard]

Only one post and the good doctor explained the condition can flare up for many reasons.

 

Seems to indicate that very few people have had side effects.

 

It's been mentioned on the news in Australia that there were some reports/comments about side effects at the start of the vaccinations (and some were illogical) but now reports/comments about side effects are close to nil. 

[overherebc]

14 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Any vaccination, not just AZ and not just COVID, may cause a temporary flare up of psoriasis and other autoimmune conditions. This is because they stimulate the immune system.

 

Natural infections (COVID or any other) will do the same.

 

If the flare up is severe and does not subside  consult your doctor for possible  med dosage adjustment.

Daivonex usually clears patches which were limited to the areas where the skin changes, edges of feet, hands. It's taking longer to work this time and has appeared on the lower shins and the tops of my feet. 

I'll give it another week and if no better go see my usual doc'.

[Sheryl]

3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Daivonex usually clears patches which were limited to the areas where the skin changes, edges of feet, hands. It's taking longer to work this time and has appeared on the lower shins and the tops of my feet. 

I'll give it another week and if no better go see my usual doc'.

 

Yes, good plan.

 

On the plus side the worsening indicates the immune system is responding strongly to the vaccine.

 

As someone with an autoimmune condition you would have been at higher than normal risk of severe COVID since severe COVID is in essence an autoimmune response. So very good you are fully immunized. 

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

Yes, good plan.

 

On the plus side the worsening indicates the immune system is responding strongly to the vaccine.

 

As someone with an autoimmune condition you would have been at higher than normal risk of severe COVID since severe COVID is in essence an autoimmune response. So very good you are fully immunized. 

Plan is to get to uk, when things and travel get easier and get a J&J booster.

[NorthernRyland]

I have an on going nasal/sinus inflammation and dizziness plus some visual disturbances 3 months post J&J shot. Symptoms are merely stable but certainly not getting better. I was sick for a week within 5 hours of the shot so clearly this thing does not agree with me.

[Will B Good]

Nothing with the first (sinovac), flu like symptoms for 4/5 days after the second (AZ).........site of injection very hot, slightly inflamed.........all settled down now and no long term effects of which I am aware.

[Sheryl]

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Plan is to get to uk, when things and travel get easier and get a J&J booster.

 

Actually an mRNA vaccine is preferred after primary AZ series).

 

May no much matter which type of vaccine you get, in terms of how it affects your psoriasis, may make your psoriasis worse temporarily as they all work by stimulating the immune system, that is what vaccines do. (And what infections do). 

 

But as both AZ and J&J use a viral vector, they may be a little worse in that regard as your body might react to both the viral vector and the spike protein that it instructs the body to produce. An mRNA vaccine might thus be better - but no guarantee. If you have psoriasis, you have to some extent a hyperexcitable immune system.

[overherebc]

53 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Actually an mRNA vaccine is preferred after primary AZ series).

 

May no much matter which type of vaccine you get, in terms of how it affects your psoriasis, may make your psoriasis worse temporarily as they all work by stimulating the immune system, that is what vaccines do. (And what infections do). 

 

But as both AZ and J&J use a viral vector, they may be a little worse in that regard as your body might react to both the viral vector and the spike protein that it instructs the body to produce. An mRNA vaccine might thus be better - but no guarantee. If you have psoriasis, you have to some extent a hyperexcitable immune system.

Worth thinking about. Thanks.

Don't know if it's related but all my life I've been what you might term a fast healer. Cuts etc, minor and severe, heal up very fast, and if they do get infected I never use anything except saline to clean them and always try as much as possible to stay away from any antibiotics, creams or tablets.

Edited November 20, 2021 by overherebc

[overherebc]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Nothing with the first (sinovac), flu like symptoms for 4/5 days after the second (AZ).........site of injection very hot, slightly inflamed.........all settled down now and no long term effects of which I am aware.

That sound familar to the effects two friends were talking about. No lasting problems.

My first AZ I hardly felt a thing but the second was painful during injection and thumped a bit for a day or two. Just felt dog tired the next day and slept most of it.

[Sheryl]

49 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Worth thinking about. Thanks.

Don't know if it's related but all my life I've been what you might term a fast healer. Cuts etc, minor and severe, heal up very fast, and if they do get infected I never use anything except saline to clean them and always try as much as possible to stay away from any antibiotics, creams or tablets.

Hyper-excitable immune systems (not a real medical term but it conveys the idea) tend to get worse as you age, or may   not even appear until you are older.

 

I never had signs of one before but now that I am older have started to - one small patch of psoriasis and after getting cellulitis from a cat bite developed massive swelling long after all infection gone, cleared only when I finally persuaded them to give steroids (Thai doctors seem to have  a fear of steroids exceeded only by their fear of narcotics. Certainly not to be used indiscriminately but there are definitely times they are much needed and this was one of them).

 

As severe COVID disease is in large part due to immune system over-reaction, people with  autoimmune problems/signs of a hyper-reactive immune system are at special risk. But they may also have to tolerate more side effects after vaccination. Small price to pay given the alternative.

 

But if you have to go back to your doctor do ask about an mRNA vaccine as booster. And with AZ, wait 6-8 months before booster.

[overherebc]

18 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Hyper-excitable immune systems (not a real medical term but it conveys the idea) tend to get worse as you age, or may   not even appear until you are older.

 

I never had signs of one before but now that I am older have started to - one small patch of psoriasis and after getting cellulitis from a cat bite developed massive swelling long after all infection gone, cleared only when I finally persuaded them to give steroids (Thai doctors seem to have  a fear of steroids exceeded only by their fear of narcotics. Certainly not to be used indiscriminately but there are definitely times they are much needed and this was one of them).

 

As severe COVID disease is in large part due to immune system over-reaction, people with  autoimmune problems/signs of a hyper-reactive immune system are at special risk. But they may also have to tolerate more side effects after vaccination. Small price to pay given the alternative.

 

But if you have to go back to your doctor do ask about an mRNA vaccine as booster. And with AZ, wait 6-8 months before booster.

That timing would fit with uk planned visit.

Also gives time to see how the whole covid thing pans out.

Edited November 20, 2021 by overherebc

[Sheryl]

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

That timing would fit with uk planned visit.

Perfect.

 

I might add, relevant to what I said about signs of over-excitable immune system now that I am older, that I had more severe reaction than average  on my first AZ vaccine: 48 hours of high fever, chills, aches and pains. After that, completely fine.

[simple1]

On 11/19/2021 at 12:49 AM, overherebc said:

Mine is not that serious.

I have quite a flare up of my psoriasis since my second AZ and doing some googling it appears a few have experienced the same.

Interested to find out if any tv members have had similar.

Fully vaxxed with AZ, no problems with psoriasis, Wife fully vaxxed with Pfizer, both times ill for a few days with headache, sore

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Fully vaxxed with AZ, no problems with psoriasis, Wife fully vaxxed with Pfizer, both times ill for a few days with headache, sore

Do you have psoriasis?

[simple1]

10 hours ago, overherebc said:

Do you have psoriasis?

Yes, both skin and psoriasis arthritis. managed by four tablets 500 mg a day of salazopyrin and occasionally skin ointment Daivobet

[Sheryl]

6 hours ago, simple1 said:

Yes, both skin and psoriasis arthritis. managed by four tablets 500 mg a day of salazopyrin and occasionally skin ointment Daivobet

There is debate/discussion underway as to whether people on systemic immunosuppressants (which salazopyrin is) might need additional vaccine doses to get adequate immunity (concern being that the immunosuppressant drugs might inhibit full immune response to the vaccine). No firm conclusions yet. But I would certainly suggest  a booster in your case just to be sure.

 

[simple1]

8 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

There is debate/discussion underway as to whether people on systemic immunosuppressants (which salazopyrin is) might need additional vaccine doses to get adequate immunity (concern being that the immunosuppressant drugs might inhibit full immune response to the vaccine). No firm conclusions yet. But I would certainly suggest  a booster in your case just to be sure.

 

I intend to have a booster, but here in Oz have to wait six months from being fully vaxxed. Can get earlier based upon referral from GP, I'll mention this matter next time I see her and see what she has to say.

[Sheryl]

44 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I intend to have a booster, but here in Oz have to wait six months from being fully vaxxed. Can get earlier based upon referral from GP, I'll mention this matter next time I see her and see what she has to say.

No, you do not want or need it less than 6 months later especially nto with AZ. 6 months is fine.

[overherebc]

On 11/19/2021 at 6:21 PM, Sheryl said:

Any vaccination, not just AZ and not just COVID, may cause a temporary flare up of psoriasis and other autoimmune conditions. This is because they stimulate the immune system.

 

Natural infections (COVID or any other) will do the same.

 

If the flare up is severe and does not subside  consult your doctor for possible  med dosage adjustment.

Just been to see the doc' and it seems that I have most likely used a tad too much Daivonex and at the same time managed to sunburn my shins and top of my feet.

End result she has given me cream to reduce the burn and has also given me Daivobet to use, once the redness/sunburn has got a bit better, with strict instructions on very little to be used once a day.

[ChaiyaTH]

On 11/19/2021 at 6:21 PM, Sheryl said:

Any vaccination, not just AZ and not just COVID, may cause a temporary flare up of psoriasis and other autoimmune conditions. This is because they stimulate the immune system.

I have my entire body red dotted like psoriasis right now, but it has been almost a month since my second shot which was AZ. No allergies, no other special things happened.

 

I have had multiple (minor) health issues aside of having been very sick from it since vaccinating. While my history is to never have anything + only a bad flu once every 4-5 years...

 

I also hear this more and more over time from other people now, so it does not even seem to be that rare, it actually seems they keep it out of the news because it is more important tot reach 100% vaccinated. I won't take a single additional shot, ever, again.

Edited November 24, 2021 by ChaiyaTH

[Sheryl]

40 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

I have my entire body red dotted like psoriasis right now, but it has been almost a month since my second shot which was AZ. No allergies, no other special things happened.

 

I have had multiple (minor) health issues aside of having been very sick from it since vaccinating. While my history is to never have anything + only a bad flu once every 4-5 years...

 

I also hear this more and more over time from other people now, so it does not even seem to be that rare, it actually seems they keep it out of the news because it is more important tot reach 100% vaccinated. I won't take a single additional shot, ever, again.

 

You say "red dotted like psoariasis" on your entire body Psoraisis is not usually like red dots nor on the entire body

 

If as it sounds like, you do not have psoriasis or other autoimmune problem, and have just developed a dffuse red rash since vaccination, this may be an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Seek medical attention.

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Interesting topic. I have very mild psoriasis. It caused me some problems as a teenager but now it's a couple of coin sized patches on both knees. . .

 

I just had my third covid vaccine. First two were Sinopharm, my booster a couple of days ago was Moderna. I've had a mild fever, felt like hell and felt like my arm was punched, but it doesn't appear to have effected my psoriasis at all.

[DJ54]

Read today... Packers QB Rodgers...

 

 

 

The "very, very painful" toe injury is a fractured toe he said he injured at home during his quarantine period this month following his positive COVID-19 test. He said the focus will be pain management and he doesn't plan to miss any time. The Packers (8-3) host the Los Angeles Rams (7-3) on Sunday. 

What is COVID toe?

 

"COVID toe" is a real term used to describe issues with swelling, pain and discoloration suffered by COVID patients. It often appears anywhere from one to four weeks after a positive diagnosis; it usually goes away within six weeks.