Popular Post Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 For years I have extended my Visa based on marriage without an issue. It seems this year the IO is looking for a reason to deny my extension. The first quarter of the year I was sending my deposit to SCB and then changed to Bangkok Bank. The IO said this is not allowed. All 12 deposits must be to one bank, I said I am not aware of this and did not see it on the IMM website. She said it's a rule. I have 30 days remaining on my Visa and she wanted me to pay 1900THB for a 2 month Covid extension stating that this will give me 12 months of deposits into 1 bank. I hindsight, I should have just paid the 1900B and come back in 2 months. Today my wife received a call from IMM. They want to know why the amount I transfer each month is not the same. I make 2 transfers each month. One is about 12 to 14,000 THB and the other is 58 to 64,000 THB depending on the rate. There were months when the amounts were less due to purchases in the US or some unusually high bills that month. Regardless, my transfers were never less than 40,000THB, In fact I transferred more than 800,000 THB this year. In addition, proof of US income was provided. The IO now wants a letter stating why the transfers are not the same each month. Is there any rule that states I must transfer the same amount each month? Is there a rule that stating I must make 12 transfers to the same bank? 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 There is no rule stating they have to be the same amount every month. i have used the income option using transfers into the country from abroad for 3 years now and every transfer is a different amount every month due to the exchange rate changing. Also there is no rule that you cannot change banks. 18 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, ubonjoe said: There is no rule stating they have to be the same amount every month. i have used the income option using transfers into the country from abroad for 3 years now and every transfer is a different amount every month due to the exchange rate changing. Also there is no rule that you cannot change banks. As I thought Joe. Seems she is just breaking chops.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeffrey346 said: As I thought Joe. Seems she is just breaking chops.. You could download the rules here if you want to. Amendment to police order 138/2557 See the clause 2.18 changes. It even states a average income is allowed but many office will not accept it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jeffrey346 said: As I thought Joe. Seems she is just breaking chops.. Doesn't matter, it's up to her, and unlikely IMO that you will win if you go against her. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be trying to go against the machine. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Doesn't matter, it's up to her, and unlikely IMO that you will win if you go against her. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be trying to go against the machine. Trust me, I'm not looking to make waves. But if there are rules I"m not aware of.. I want to know 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: You could download the rules here if you want to. Amendment to police order 138/2557 See the clause 2.18 changes. It even states a average income is allowed but many office will not accept it. Thanks Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glegolo18 Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 Maybe you should consider to change from difficult marriage extension to retirement extension instead?? Money seems to be ok for that anyhow?? Some officies pushing from marriage to retirement, she have not suggested that to you???? Just because you are married to a thailady, or have a VISA Non immigrant O Spouse, doesn´t mean that you HAVE TO go the route of marriage extension, it is up to you... glegolo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jeffrey346 said: The IO now wants a letter stating why the transfers are not the same each month. So write the letter, it'll take less time than this post did. Keep it short, very short, no, shorter than that and don't embellish it with the weather report from the U.S. or your purchases and bills. And get it translated to thai. Here's a start: 45 minutes ago, Jeffrey346 said: I make 2 transfers each month. One is about 12 to 14,000 THB and the other is 58 to 64,000 THB depending on the rate. There were months when the amounts were less due to purchases in the US or some unusually high bills that month. Regardless, my transfers were never less than 40,000THB, In fact I transferred more than 800,000 THB this year. In addition, proof of US income was provided. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KannikaP Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 Maybe it would be easier if the OP, and others, sent the same amount in THB every month no matter what the exchange rate is. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, glegolo18 said: Maybe you should consider to change from difficult marriage extension to retirement extension instead?? Money seems to be ok for that anyhow?? Some officies pushing from marriage to retirement, she have not suggested that to you???? Just because you are married to a thailady, or have a VISA Non immigrant O Spouse, doesn´t mean that you HAVE TO go the route of marriage extension, it is up to you... glegolo Yes, I understand it's much easier for IMM to do a Retirement Extension. And NO, she did not suggest that I change my application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eff1n2ret Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, glegolo18 said: Maybe you should consider to change from difficult marriage extension to retirement extension instead?? Money seems to be ok for that anyhow?? What's the point of that? The IO's objections seem to be about his financial arrangements, not the status of his marriage 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: So write the letter, it'll take less time than this post did. Keep it short, very short, no, shorter than that and don't embellish it with the weather report from the U.S. or your purchases and bills. And get it translated to thai. Here's a start: Thanks for the suggestion and the edit. My wife tells me she has sent them a letter stating that transfer rates change and there is not a single month that less than 40,000 THB had been sent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheScience Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 I recall something something here about Immigration wants to see one account. It does sound reasonable if one is doing income method. It's only 400k and you transfer 800k per year. Avoid the drama and just let the money sit. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Maybe it would be easier if the OP, and others, sent the same amount in THB every month no matter what the exchange rate is. In my case that is not possible since it is direct deposited into my account by the provider of it. Anyway as said it is not a requirement. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I originally used to do monthly transfers for several years for my marriage extension but changed to money in the bank so I didnt have to travel to Bnagkok and argue with the thai staff about getting my govt notices stamped. My transfers varied every month due to the exchange rates plus when I had extra in my account from my partial business, it was never queried, really does sound like she is being a total b***h, have you tried speaking to the head person in the office Edited December 23, 2021 by seajae 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I heard about quite a few lately who was pushed around like this for different reasons, seems like some immigration officers getting desperate to get some brown envolopes, or trying to push us to use agents. Is there not possible to complain to some instance when they get out their hands like this? 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, seajae said: I originally used to do monthly transfers for several years for my marriage extension but changed to money in the bank so I didnt have to travel to Bnagkok and argue with the thai staff about getting my govt notices stamped. My transfers varied every month due to the exchange rates plus when I had extra in my account from my partial business, it was never queried, really does sound like she is being a total b***h, have you tried speaking to the head person in the office She is the Captain in charge. The IO that actually did all the application work approved it and sent it to her for signature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.B Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) "I have 30 days remaining on my Visa and she wanted me to pay 1900THB for a 2 month Covid extension stating that this will give me 12 months of deposits into 1 bank. I hindsight, I should have just paid the 1900B and come back in 2 months." Yes, she made a suggestion and you refused it. Now you are a marked man! I am surprised your wife didn't advise you to do that, mine would have. Best way forward, is to change to the 400,000 baht in a Thai bank in the future to avoid all this nonsense. You don't mention any monies in a Thai Bank Don't you have any? Edited December 23, 2021 by Chris.B 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Hummin said: I heard about quite a few lately who was pushed around like this for different reasons, seems like some immigration officers getting desperate to get some brown envolopes, or trying to push us to use agents. Is there not possible to complain to some instance when they get out their hands like this? I use agents for all dealings with bureaucracy, Passport renewal, Driving license, 90 days, retirement extension, travel arrangements. They offer a great service to make life easier and save so much time.. Edited December 23, 2021 by The Hammer2021 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.B Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: I use agents for all dealings with bureaucracy, Passport renewal, Driving license, 90 days, retirement extension, travel arrangements. They offer a great service to make life easier and save so much time.. Up to you mate! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris.B said: "I have 30 days remaining on my Visa and she wanted me to pay 1900THB for a 2 month Covid extension stating that this will give me 12 months of deposits into 1 bank. I hindsight, I should have just paid the 1900B and come back in 2 months." Yes, she made a suggestion and you refused it. Now you are a marked man! Best way forward, is to change to the 400,000 baht in a Thai bank in the future to avoid all this nonsense. You don't mention any monies in a Thai Bank Don't you have any? What I have in a Thai bank is irrelevant. I have done my marriage extension the same way for years with no issues. In addition, I'm in no position to keep 400,000 in the bank at this time as I just built a new house. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hummin Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: I use agents for all dealings with bureaucracy, Passport renewal, Driving license, 90 days, retirement extension, travel arrangements. They offer a great service to make life easier and save so much time.. It should not be necessery when you are able to do everything yourself, especially when they start pushing people around who have been here for decades, and never failed one transfer, or have all legal necessery paper in order. One of those who was pushed around, lived here for 23 years, got embassy letter, was told they needed bank statements to, for then coming back with the bank statements, being told they also needed the embassy letter. The requiremetn is not both, it is one of them! last year I was pushed around twice, finely got all papers they wanted, and showing up for my renewal, they only took my passport, embassy letter, and thats it. Nothing else, but this time I had everything. Im quite sure, if I only showed up with embassy letter and passport, they would ask for what I did not bring, but I will try next year, give them passport and embassy letter, and then hold back rest of the papers, and hand them one by one what they will ask for additional. Edited December 23, 2021 by Hummin 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffrey346 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: I use agents for all dealings with bureaucracy, Passport renewal, Driving license, 90 days, retirement extension, travel arrangements. They offer a great service to make life easier and save so much time.. I see no reason to pay an agent especially when I meet and exceed all the rules. As for time, I have plenty of that.. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thonglorjimmy Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Maybe it would be easier if the OP, and others, sent the same amount in THB every month no matter what the exchange rate is. That would be fine save that my spending requirements are often different, sometimes I need to bring over more than my usual amount, sometimes I make two transfers neither of which are below the monthly sum required. I know we all have to bow before some IO's "becuse that's what I say attitude, never mind the rules" but it is quite tedious ensuring that some egos are not hurt for fear of reprisals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamster Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Maybe it would be easier if the OP, and others, sent the same amount in THB every month no matter what the exchange rate is. That would involve buying THB in your home country, then somehow sending it to a Thai bank. The fx rate would b even worse than when sending your home currency and having it exchanged by the Thai bank 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I have just removed serval off topic, baiting posts and the resultant replies to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, KannikaP said: Maybe it would be easier if the OP, and others, sent the same amount in THB every month no matter what the exchange rate is. Don’t think it’s possible with exchange rate fluctuations. Example US Social Security payments using BKK bank are deposited in THB.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, fulhamster said: That would involve buying THB in your home country, then somehow sending it to a Thai bank. The fx rate would b even worse than when sending your home currency and having it exchanged by the Thai bank Not necessarily, simply check what say Bht 65000 is in eg USD on the day you need to send it, and that's how much you send in USD. Or you could get a Wise Borderless account and 'store up' your THB and send once a month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shannoblic Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 Don't know if this helps you but every month I send the same amount to my Bangkok Bank account from the UK using Wise [formally TransferWise]. On their website you can select to send a set amount in baht. Obviously the amount you pay from your out of country bank [mine is the UK] changes, but the deposit in the Thai bank is always the same. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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