3 minutes ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

instead of one that 99.7% or more survive.

Got any confirming data on that or pulling it from where the sun don't shine? You would be more credible if you did. My recollection was 98% survival in the early Covid days, which improved to 99% later last year Your number might be valid in the times of the less virulent omicron... so could be on the mark.

Recorded covid deaths worldwide are 5.66M against cases of 373M

That figure is around 1.5%

This is from day 1

In recent times it appears to be dropping to well under 1% and approaching 0.5%

Source: Google search

Some of the original mortality rate estimates were nearly 4%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

It's not to be ignored but at less than 0.5% it's certainly not worth closing down the world over.

Add to that the Pfizer and Merck drugs etc which are now just starting to be used for the vulnerable and the picture gets better.

25 minutes ago, Spilornis said:

It's not to be ignored but at less than 0.5% it's certainly not worth closing down the world over.

A lot of factors brought that number down.......major factors. Items like better handling of symptoms in hospitals (in the early days they made many wrong moves), then came vaccinations, and more recently a less pathological strain displacing prior ones.  Closing down the world was not a reaction to the latter stages of this pandemic, but the earlier stages. Try and recall how bad that was.

47 minutes ago, Spilornis said:

Recorded covid deaths worldwide are 5.66M against cases of 373M

That figure is around 1.5%

This is from day 1

In recent times it appears to be dropping to well under 1% and approaching 0.5%

Source: Google search

Some of the original mortality rate estimates were nearly 4%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

It's not to be ignored but at less than 0.5% it's certainly not worth closing down the world over.

Add to that the Pfizer and Merck drugs etc which are now just starting to be used for the vulnerable and the picture gets better.

And yet we know many deaths were not recorded as most countries have admitted under counts and many don't count at all.

 

I've read reports from 10-15MM deaths is the real number.  Looking at the excess death numbers.

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

I was a financial planner for a long time.  Mainly at the corporate level.  Always did 3 forecasts.  The good, the bad, the likely.  Best way to plan, IMHO.  Be prepared! LOL

 

This admin is run by a bunch of military and hi so's with zip experience.  They've gone overboard a bit, but so have many other countries.  No easy answers with this virus.

True. Hi-so is such a strange and inaccurate term for these creeps. It denotes a certain amount of class, etiquette, world travel, knowledge of the outside world, and culture. None of which any one of these clowns have. All they have is alot of cash. Is that hi-so? Is that all they got? If so, that is such a sorry definition. 

On 1/26/2022 at 3:20 AM, Kinnock said:

Quick, shut the borders, close bars forever!

Not to forget the cockfighting rings!

13 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

The mods doe a great job of keeping out links to dodgy media outlets, and misinformation from members.  The most credible members here backup their opinions with links to credible reports, mainly from "highly reputable medical journals" and such.

 

Most of us avoid the ones that are not "highly reputable".  Sadly, some seem to gravitate towards them.  Not sure why.  Though a lot has to do with political leaning.

Unless being a doctor yourself I don't think most of us are able to judge the credibility of these reports. Just have a look at the reports in Thailand, Omicron will be endemic in one report another report is denying this. At least the ministry of health should be credible but it is not.

Agree with you about the political leaning, just remember the utter nonsense the previous "president" of the US was spouting and how many followers he had.

21 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

From what I've read, there is a real possibility of a really nasty variant cropping up.  A good portion of the world is unvaccinated and perfect breeding grounds for new nasties.  Nobody knows, but it's a possibility.  Sadly!!!

 

The only thing we can do is keep up the jabs.  Right now, it's our best way out of this mess.

Such a shame 94% of low income countries [residents] are unvaccinated.

 

You mentioned on another thread that you were making an unnecessary trip to Africa soon, The most unvaccinated continent in the world.

 

Kind of hypocritical dont you think?

13 hours ago, sungod said:

Such a shame 94% of low income countries [residents] are unvaccinated.

 

You mentioned on another thread that you were making an unnecessary trip to Africa soon, The most unvaccinated continent in the world.

 

Kind of hypocritical dont you think?

 Low income countries are being vaccinated, just not enough and not like the rich western nations.  But they are getting jabs into arms.

 

One reason for the slow uptake?  Misinformation.  Just like in the west.

 

I'm going to South Africa, which is NOT the most unvaccinated country in the world.  Actually, they have less cases there than here!  So hardly hypocritical.  I'm going to where there are less infections.